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  1. Let me just repeat that CSU was ranked higher than us on KenPom prior to the game. 

    And CSU just beat the ever loving shit out of Virginia.  I mean, beat them so bad that it may actually set their program back by a few years.  And Virginia was the 3rd ranked team in... wait for it... the ACC.  NC State finished 10th in the ACC for reference.

    The Virginia game was in hand for the entire 2nd half.  If CSU wasn't rested, that is on them.  They could have pulled their starters with 15 minutes to go in that game.

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  2. Part of Disu's frustration was caused by the fact that their bigs were lowering their shoulders and offensive fouling constantly.  Then he gets called for ticky tack fouls and is sent to the bench. He could never get in a rhythm either inside or from the perimeter.  

    We won, so nobody it talking about it much, but I thought the game was called in a way that favored CSU bigtime.  The ending foul disparity didn't look so bad because of all the intentional fouls at the end.

    Tennessee is going to be an even more physical matchup, unfortunately.

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  3. This year to date:

    • Overall - #25
    • AdjO - #27
    • AdjD - #39

    Chris Beard (2022):

    • Overall - #15
    • AdjO - #26
    • AdjD - #14

    Shaka Smart (2016-2021):

    • Overall - #43
    • AdjO - #77
    • AdjD - #26

    Rick Barnes (1999-2015):

    • Overall - #25
    • AdjO - #38
    • AdjD - #39
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  4. Beard absolutely didn’t overachieve in his first year here. He won a single tournament game. Woo hoo. Throw a parade.

    He deserves credit for reloading with some players who had already won 1st Team All Conference honors in Carr (Big 10), Allen (PAC 10), Tre Mitchell (A10). But he also lost a lot of talent when he got here. And ultimately won a single tourney game.

    I expected more out of that group honestly. And it looked like we were on our way in 22-23.

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  5. I am not the biggest Horton fan, but I really like bringing Weaver off the bench. His energy really brings a spark and helped us with the 25-3 run. Rice gave a similar spark last year off the bench. Weaver is in the closing 5 and that is what matters.

    Also Horton had a pretty good game. His 7 rebounds were big. Played good defense too. In the end Weaver got double his minutes which is about right.

    This was the fewest points CSU has scored in THREE years. They aren’t scrubs. At one point they were ranked 13th. You could make a case that they should have been an 8/9 seed.

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  6. It is much more tiring to play good defense than good offense. I also suspected that some of Barnes' players were simply worn out and it impacted their free throw shooting. You can especially see it at the end of the games when players leave them short.

  7. BTW, on the subject of free throw shooting, this is the best free throw shooting team we have had since at least 1997, maybe ever.  And not by a little bit, by two whole percentage points.  Previous best was 73.6% with Durant.  This year... 75.7%.

    The 2010 Barnes team shot 63.3%. Holy hell. 

  8. 48 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

    for me that’s one of his strategies where sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t, but you can understand why he believes in it as a strategy

    I don't HATE the strategy, but one of the critical elements of that strategy is that you MUST MUST MUST have good free throw shooters.  And far too often we would be a very poor free throw shooting team.  Now I have this data courtesy of my new KenPom subscription...

    UT's Free Throw rank under Barnes:

    • 00 - 264
    • 01 - 269
    • 02 - 177
    • 03 - 77  (Final 4)
    • 04 - 190
    • 05 - 142
    • 06 - 57 (Elite 8 )
    • 07 - 36 (Durant)
    • 08 - 189
    • 09 - 246
    • 10 - 326 
    • 11 - 282
    • 12 - 47
    • 13 - 270
    • 14 - 272
    • 15 - 70

    There are some REAL stinkers in there. And it really hindered some of those teams.

  9. I've got no ill feelings towards Barnes. Someday hopefully he gets a statue at Moody.  But he has nobody to blame but himself for losing his fastball while at Texas. Everything he has done at Tennessee could have been done better here. Oh well, sometimes you need a reset.

    It is going to be funny if RT ends up being the most successful coach of the last 15 years while at Texas.  Beard, Barnes, and Shaka are all better coaches, but they each had their issues here.  Beard's were off the court.  Barnes couldn't quite figure out how to get the super elite recruits to buy into his hard ass approach for a full season.  If he could have targeted a different player and adopted a Michigan State approach of taking top 20-50 guys and developing them, I think he would have been better off than with all the one and dones.  And Shaka just went away from his bread and butter.  Every so often we would press and look incredible.  Nope nope nope, his stubborn ass had to change his style and we sucked for it.

    Every one of those guys had an ego and stubbornness that got them into trouble here.  

  10. 26 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

    if the matchup does happen i will have mixed emotions regardless of the outcome.

    I appreciate the honesty. I however will have zero mixed emotions if we lose to Barnes. F that.  I'm hoping he gets upset in round 1 and we don't have to play them.

  11. Yep.  For continuity, FAU is #1 (and also #41 in Experience).  I would NOT want to play them in the tourney.

    Wisconsin is #8 in Continuity and #48 in Experience.  Creighton is #40 in Continuity and #8 in Experience.  Also a team I wouldn't want to play.

  12. We forget that Beard had a similar style to Bennett at Tech (and to a lesser degree at Texas).  Incredible defense and extremely slow pace, boring but efficient offense.  If he got to 50 points, good chance they were going to win.  And if they were ever up by 10 points, it was game over. 

    But... his offense could be really painful to watch at times.  I personally liked Beard because he wins AND because I really like watching a smothering team defense.  I enjoyed the Virginia vs. Tech national title game quite a bit, but it got a lot of negative press prior to the game predicting it would be a slow, difficult watch.

     

     

  13. Another interesting chart... ranking the current teams by experience.  I knew we had to be one of the most experienced teams in the country, and turns out we are.

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  14. Finally broke down and spent $20 on a KenPom subscription. Some interesting stuff in here.  Looking at home court advantage.  Things are going to get a lot easier in the SEC from that perspective.  And that doesn't account for the fact that all those big 12 teams hate Texas and have by far their best crowd of the year when they play us.

    Big 12 - 3 top-5, 12 top-50

    • #1 Tech
    • #2 West Virginia
    • #3 TCU
    • #14 OU
    • #17 BYU
    • #20 ISU
    • #25 Texas
    • #27 KU
    • #30 Baylor
    • #39 Cinci
    • #41 K-State
    • $48 OSU

    SEC - 0 top-5, 6 top-50

    • #13 Miss St
    • #23 Tennessee
    • #24 Arkansas
    • #26 Alabama
    • #33 Auburn
    • #37 Kentucky
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  15. did i say that anyone said he was a great coach? was i not specifically addressing the countless posts stating that his mediocre 10 years at D-1 schools in multi-bid conferences didn’t reflect on him as a coach because other coaches didn’t win there as well? did i not specifically use the word “good” and the term “good coaches”? so yeah, like you said, literally nobody is talking about rodney terry and being “great”.
    its very simple: if RT was a Texas level coach he would have showed as much during the decade in which he got his opportunity. in that decade he made one tourney appearance, never won his league, never won a tourney game, took a lateral move, and then took a downward move to becoming an assistant at Texas. name any coach in the history of college basketball who is both good enough to be the UT HC in 2024 and whose coaching record looks anything like RT’s. spoiler alert: there are none. coaches at this level win wherever they go, and their career trajectory goes upward, not stalled out, sideways, then downward.

    Fair enough. You win.

    I am now in alignment that if we had an open coaching search we wouldn’t have hired RT based on his history as a head coach prior to Texas.

    If anyone disagrees, hopefully the two of you can argue it out in private messages. Cool? Can we move on now? Anyone else disagree?
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  16. Again, nobody is saying RT is a great coach. Literally nobody.  If I'm wrong, then post a quote and I'll admit I'm wrong.   To claim that any of us are arguing RT is great is in fact "disingenuous".

    I have only claimed that he is a "good" coach and I stand by that.  Good enough for Texas? Probably not.

    Fresno using Massey Ratings:

    • After RT - 148.4 
    • During RT - 108.3  (#71 last year)
    • Before RT - 168.1
  17. From 1980 to 2024, OSU has the #27th ranked program by average end of year Massey Rating.  Since 2000, that climbs to #25.  That puts them in a peer group with Arkansas, Louisville, Marquette, Georgetown and Memphis.  

    They should be able to get a top-tier coach.  I would have thought they could get someone better and younger than Alford.  

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