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1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Think they could flip Banks?

No idea. If OU or LSU took Davis, I think they'd have a good chance. Not sure about Auburn, but they definitely have a higher chance than Va Tech. 

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9 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

When is the last time a private school QB from Texas was worth a shit in college?  Especially one from a place like Cornerstone Christian?

Preston Stone will be the first, obviously. /s

Deuce Hogan, of Faith Christian in Grapevine is going to Iowa. He has pretty good tape and chose Iowa over committable offers from Tennessee and Georgia. 

But to answer your question, I have no idea. 

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3 hours ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

Deuce Hogan, of Faith Christian in Grapevine is going to Iowa. He has pretty good tape and chose Iowa over committable offers from Tennessee and Georgia. 

If he had been worth a shit, he would have gone to SLC.  Also, he looks like this:

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On 5/6/2020 at 12:22 AM, TommyGufano said:

 

My understanding is this kid is a 5* and allegedly isn't an 8th grader? Dunno if they were in it for any Texas RBs, but I'd think they aren't any more if they were

 

Just watched his whole hudl. In a 6 minute video, he gets tackled to the ground 1 time (into the end zone), and pushed oob twice. Went and watched McCaffery's hs hudl. I mean...Shipley has the potential. McCaffery had a lot more wiggle to his game at the same time, but they're pretty similar. Good get by Clemson. He'll fit really well into what they do in the playoffs every year. He'll have as many receiving yards in the playoffs as he will all season. 

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Grace Raynor: Behind the scenes of Clemson’s biggest recruiting weekend

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CLEMSON, S.C. — Come for the football game. Stay for the grilled oysters, bacon-wrapped scallops and beef tenderloin carving station. Don’t miss the bread pudding-stuffed pumpkins with flambéed bourbon sauce. There’s plenty. One weekend every November, Clemson’s football program spares no expense as it welcomes recruits on official visits. The whirlwind 48 hours serve as more of a celebration for prospects who have already committed to the Tigers than a sales pitch.

But the visit can be crucial in swaying a top uncommitted prospect, too. Recruits can take official visits to up to five schools, per NCAA rules. In 2019, Clemson’s marquee weekend took place Nov. 15-17. On the field, the Tigers crushed Wake Forest 52-3. Off it, the program tapped into its $2 million-plus annual football recruiting budget, spending $85,000 to impress 11 recruits and their families.

What really occurs when top football programs across the country host official visits typically stays behind closed doors. NCAA rules prohibit media from attending events or interacting with a prospect while he is on campus. But receipts and itineraries obtained by The Athletic via an open records request, along with additional reporting, social media posts and 247Sports’ recruiting data, help tell the story of how that weekend unfolded in Clemson.

Clemson, per a policy set by head coach Dabo Swinney, does not host official visits in the spring, which might help explain why the Tigers’ November weekend is so lavish. Tennessee, which also boasts one of the biggest recruiting budgets in college football, spent about $36,000 for official visits during an October weekend, The Athletic reported. For its part, Clemson spent nearly that amount on lodging alone.

The program, which has five consecutive College Football Playoff appearances and has won two national titles since 2016, ended up signing a 2020 recruiting class that ranked third nationally, the highest of Swinney’s tenure. Of the 11 visitors, 10 eventually signed with the program and nine enrolled early. Inside linebacker Justin Flowe, the No. 6 player in the country, became a noted exception when he opted for Oregon instead.

Clemson also hosted unofficial visitors that weekend, including 2021 running back Will Shipley, who committed to the Tigers this week. Recruits can visit as much as they want if they’re paying their own way, but it’s not near the same experience as the official visit. From steakhouse dinners to black car service to a luxury hotel — the Tigers did not skimp. Here’s an inside look:

Official visitors (Rankings per 247Sports Composite)

Bryan Bresee, DT, No. 1 overall , No. 1 DT
Justin Flowe, ILB, No. 6 overall , No. 1 ILB
Myles Murphy, DE, No. 7 overall , No. 1 SDE
Demarkcus Bowman, RB, No. 20 overall , No. 3 RB
Demonte Capehart, DT, No. 33 overall , No. 5 DT
E.J. Williams, WR, No. 68 overall , No. 13 WR
Paul Tchio, OG, No. 102 overall , No. 3 OG
Mitchell Mayes, OG, No. 147 overall , No. 6 OG
Sergio Allen, ILB, No. 215 overall , No. 12 ILB
Kevin Swint, ILB, No. 259 overall , No. 15 ILB
Tyler Venables, S, No. 1125 overall , No. 80 S

The itinerary

Friday, Nov. 15th

• 3 p.m.-5 p.m. — Check in at hotel, dress for dinner

Recruits started arriving in Clemson on Friday afternoon. By this point, most high school seasons were either over or in the playoffs. Those prospects still playing Friday night could make the trip to Clemson on Saturday morning. Clemson spent a total of $8,569.54 on flights for roundtrip travel, according to documents. Unless a specific waiver is granted, NCAA rules allow universities to pay for travel, room, meals and entertainment for the player and up to two family members. The university can pay room, meals and entertainment for up to two additional family members, but not travel.

Visitors outside of that number must pay their own costs. Clemson redacted the names of the visitors, citing privacy laws. To get the visitors from their homes to their local airports, Clemson hired professional black car services from GroundLink. That totaled $1,671.5. Once arriving at Greenville-Spartanburg Airport, the visitors were picked up by staff and driven to Clemson, about a 40-mile trip.

The recruits and their families were dropped off at their accommodations for Friday and Saturday nights — a luxury boutique hotel not far from campus. Clemson booked 36 rooms, which were also used by staff members and bus drivers, taking up most of the hotel. That was by far the Tigers’ biggest expense, coming in at $31,888.08. (Clemson also spent an additional $638.40 for three downtown Greenville hotels Sunday night, presumably for those with Monday flights.)

• 6 p.m.-9 p.m. — Steakhouse dinner at Halls Chophouse in Downtown Greenville

Hopefully the visitors worked up an appetite. If there is a theme from the weekend, it’s food, food and more food. The total bill for meals and snacks throughout the weekend came to $20,220.38, and doesn’t include the meals in transit, which Clemson also covers. The program spent more than $6,500 on Friday night alone. Halls Chophouse bills itself as a destination for an exceptional meal and offers four private rooms and live entertainment nightly. Recruits and their families feasted on calamari, ribs, chicken wings and other appetizers to go with three-course dinners, coffee and soft drinks.

Clemson paid two separate bills — for $2,890.24 and $3,632.64. Clemson had thought ahead, too. It prepared for the visit by picking up $623.14 worth of assorted snacks at Walmart and an additional $855.42 on 140 Big Chocolate Chip cookies, 140 Big Double Chocolate cookies and 140 Big Sprinkle cookies from Bitty Chip Cookies in Greenville.

• 9 p.m. — Prospects released with player hosts

The visitors were transported to and from dinner, about 45 minutes away from the hotel, via charter bus. Clemson spent a total of $7,020.00 for two charter buses for use throughout the weekend. Once the recruits arrived back at their hotel, they were released to their student hosts, who were players on the 2019 Clemson roster. The NCAA allows universities to give those student-athletes $75 a day to entertain the prospects on official visits. In total, Clemson spent $975 for that part of the weekend.

Saturday, Nov. 16th

• 8a.m.-10 a.m. — More arrivals at the hotel
• 10 a.m. — Breakfast
• 11 a.m.-1 p.m. — Campus Tour and Academic Meetings
• 1-3:30 p.m. — Lunch, Tiger Walk and pregame activities

Clemson’s visitors started the day with breakfast from Rick Erwin’s Clemson, an upscale restaurant in the area. The bill came to $1,999.50. Next came visiting on-campus sites and learning about the university’s academic options. Then it was time for a decadent lunch. The program spent $1,385.80 to feed 65 guests a spread of BBQ bacon cheddar grilled chicken thighs, jumbo lump crab cakes, grilled ribeye with herb compound, whipped truffle garlic butter mashed potatoes, roasted broccoli and oven-roasted maple butternut squash.

• 3:36 p.m. — Kickoff against Wake Forest

From reserved seats in the lower level, recruits watched the Tigers take a 31-3 lead at halftime in front of 80,875 fans at Death Valley. Clemson scored on its opening drive, then safety Tanner Muse picked off the first pass of the day from Wake Forest quarterback Jamie Newman. Wide receiver Tee Higgins caught a 30-yard touchdown pass from quarterback Trevor Lawrence with 13 seconds left in the second quarter, and Clemson went into the break with 268 yards of total offense to Wake Forest’s 54.

Time for a snack. The spread: chicken tenders and dipping sauces, tortilla chips with queso, pico de gallo, guacamole and/or fresh salsa, southwestern egg rolls with a chipotle ranch dipping sauce, stadium hot dogs with chili, cheese, sauerkraut, diced onions and slaw and select beverages and candy. It totaled $392. There was also a 35-inch chocolate fountain, with an accompanying table, for a total of $325.

Despite the 62-degree day, Clemson leaned into the November spirit and even provided a hot chocolate bar complete with mini marshmallows, crushed peppermint and whipped cream. The blowout lent itself to a three-hour game, which ended at about 6:40 p.m. Afterward, Swinney said the afternoon was bittersweet: it was Senior Day.

• 8 p.m.-9:30 p.m. — Dinner, prospects released with player hosts

To celebrate Clemson improving to 11-0, another meal awaited. The program spent $2,807.15 to feed 115 guests for dinner, which came out to less than $25 per person in food costs. They got a lot for their money. Passed Hors d’oeuvres included shrimp cocktail cups, cheddar sliders, bacon-wrapped scallops and adobo chicken skewers. The buffet consisted of buttermilk fried chicken, chargrilled oysters with fresh bread, a carving station for brown sugar-cumin-rubbed beef tenderloin, creamy steakhouse macaroni and cheese, red beans and rice and brussels sprouts with parmesan cheese and crispy shallots.

Also offered: fruit, charcuterie, salad and pita chips with hummus and spinach artichoke dip. For dessert, Clemson tempted its diners with the white chocolate-bread pudding-stuffed pumpkins with the flambéed bourbon sauce. For catering/dining needs between meals in Clemson’s facility and Memorial Stadium, the program rented items such as benches, plates, drapes, Clemson-colored linens, lights, silverware and warmers for $9,628.89.

Sunday, Nov. 17th

• 8:20 a.m. — Wake-up call
• 9 a.m. — Breakfast

Clemson wasn’t done yet. This time, breakfast was smaller and for only 85 people. For $831.30 (only $9.78 a head), Clemson served up scrambled eggs, brown sugar bacon, chicken sausage, open-faced sweet chipotle maple chicken and waffles, grits, oatmeal, chocolate chunk pancakes, avocado toast with smoked salmon, red onions and crispy capers, omelets and warm jumbo cinnamon rolls.

• 10 a.m.-12:30 p.m. — Facility tour and football meetings, photoshoot

Entertainment for recruits was a large part of what Swinney had in mind when Clemson opened its $55 million, 142,500 square-foot facility in 2017. It includes everything from an indoor slide to a barber shop, a nap room, a theater, outdoor amenities and a bowling alley. This is where one of the most popular parts of the visit for recruits took place. Prospects tried on Clemson gear and took part in photoshoots, which are ready-made for posting on players’ social media.

At noon, according to documents, the buses took recruits to Swinney’s home a short ride from campus. Swinney and his wife, Kathleen, are known as elite entertainers, and they have the setting for it. Clemson football players regularly talk about playing basketball with each other. The Swinney property includes an indoor court.

• 12:30 p.m. — Lunch

Documents show Clemson spent $7,695.81 at Sullivan’s Metropolitan Grill in nearby Anderson on Sunday, presumably to provide lunch. The food portion totaled $4,803.19 and the rentals came out to $2,892.62. That receipt isn’t further itemized, but recruits surely ate well. The owners of the establishment met at Johnson & Wales, the well-known culinary school.

• 2:30 p.m. — Begin departures for home

It was around this time when buses and private cars started to take prospects back to the Greenville-Spartanburg Airport to head home. For those with Monday flights, one final hotel stay in downtown Greenville was in order. Clemson spent a total of $1,958.00 for additional travel-related expenses, primarily mileage at $0.58 per mile for those who drove and meals in transit. One recruit (and presumably his family) even swung by a Buffalo Wild Wings on the way into town to snag 50 takeout wings — mild and hot — for $49.99.
What it means

Ultimately, prospects choose a school for many reasons more important than a steakhouse dinner or a swanky hotel. But the official visit is an anticipated event and part of the process, and Clemson has the resources to make it as memorable as possible. The acclaimed 2020 class is now signed, and many of the recruits enrolled in January and took part in spring ball before the COVID-19 outbreak. They’ll be expected to continue the Tigers’ recent dominance.

For Clemson, building the Class of 2021 is well underway. Before long, it’ll be time to plan another official visit weekend.

After reading all this, I'm very curious as to how our official visits compare.

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5 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Grace Raynor: Behind the scenes of Clemson’s biggest recruiting weekend

After reading all this, I'm very curious as to how our official visits compare.

No matter how they actually compare, I'm sure you'll think our visits fucking suck dick and are the Mack Brown era locker room of Official Visits. 

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58 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Grace Raynor: Behind the scenes of Clemson’s biggest recruiting weekend

After reading all this, I'm very curious as to how our official visits compare.

 

Arrival:  4/5 star recruits picked up in a fleet of 

 

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The End.

 

 

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59 minutes ago, TommyGufano said:

$85k and no women romancing one another? That's how you end up with the 3rd ranked recruiting class instead of 1st or 2nd coming off a natl championship

I know your comment was in jest.

23 recruits compared to 25 for both Georgia (1) and Alabama (2), and Clemson had two nationally unranked three-star guys (one of which was Tyler Venables) who brought the class average down.

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Well the Vols have really opened up the check books.  They got another one in Katron Evens.  This part cracked me up though...

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“Tennessee has been a winning program. Tennessee has a lot of national championships under their belt, they put players in the NFL, and I want to be a part of that and hopefully bring another national championship to Knoxville.”

Nope, nope, not really, nope.

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Looks like Collin Oliver has grown tired of waiting for OU and has moved up his commit date to the 15th and barring a huge surprise it will be OkState. The OU coaches either don't really like him or feel like they can flip him later but this guy looks like a damn good player at a need spot and is in-state as an Oklahoma kid. Feels a lot like I've seen this from the Texas staff (Deshaun White, etc). Will be a good get for Gundy and co. 

https://247sports.com/Player/Collin-Oliver-46084719/

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