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Thursday 10 am - We're hearing Sean Snyder, son of former K-State coach Bill Snyder, is a candidate to coach tight ends and special teams at Texas. I'm hearing Snyder, who is expected to interview with Texas this week, is "one of a few candidates."

An all-conference punter at K-State in 1991 and 1992 (who held the school record for career punt average - 43.0 yards per punt until 1998), Snyder was in charge of special teams at K-State from 2011-18. This past season, under new K-State coach Chris Klieman, Snyder served as director of football operations at KSU.

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Thursday 9:10 am - In addition to talking to former Longhorn and Baylor defensive line coach Frank Okam I'm hearing there is interest in talking to a couple more D-line coach candidates. One source said the hire of a D-line coach and tight ends/special teams coordinator "may" be finalized by Texas' recruiting event on Saturday.

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We just hired a kickass LB/ST guy but need a second Person for ST? 

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3 minutes ago, Getafix said:

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Thursday 10 am - We're hearing Sean Snyder, son of former K-State coach Bill Snyder, is a candidate to coach tight ends and special teams at Texas. I'm hearing Snyder, who is expected to interview with Texas this week, is "one of a few candidates."

An all-conference punter at K-State in 1991 and 1992 (who held the school record for career punt average - 43.0 yards per punt until 1998), Snyder was in charge of special teams at K-State from 2011-18. This past season, under new K-State coach Chris Klieman, Snyder served as director of football operations at KSU.

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Thursday 9:10 am - In addition to talking to former Longhorn and Baylor defensive line coach Frank Okam I'm hearing there is interest in talking to a couple more D-line coach candidates. One source said the hire of a D-line coach and tight ends/special teams coordinator "may" be finalized by Texas' recruiting event on Saturday.

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If Hutzler, Coleman, and possibly Snyder can't field an elite special teams unit, then it's just not meant to be.

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17 minutes ago, Getafix said:

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Thursday 10 am - We're hearing Sean Snyder, son of former K-State coach Bill Snyder, is a candidate to coach tight ends and special teams at Texas. I'm hearing Snyder, who is expected to interview with Texas this week, is "one of a few candidates."

An all-conference punter at K-State in 1991 and 1992 (who held the school record for career punt average - 43.0 yards per punt until 1998), Snyder was in charge of special teams at K-State from 2011-18. This past season, under new K-State coach Chris Klieman, Snyder served as director of football operations at KSU.

(Chip Brown)

Thursday 9:10 am - In addition to talking to former Longhorn and Baylor defensive line coach Frank Okam I'm hearing there is interest in talking to a couple more D-line coach candidates. One source said the hire of a D-line coach and tight ends/special teams coordinator "may" be finalized by Texas' recruiting event on Saturday.

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Sean Snyder would be a laughable and abject failure as a hire at the TE position at Texas. K-state fans justifiably revere Snyder, and to a man they spit the bit and protested wildly at Sean Snyder being made the HC after Bill retired, which Bill Snyder tried his darnest to make happen. I would bet years off the back end of my life that he'll never be a plus recruiter, and probably not even an average recruiter. Fuck. That.  Her reportedly has the personality of wet paint, and he has never coached TEs, receivers, and honestly I'm not sure he's ever even recruited. He's been a Director of Football Operations most of his career and coached special teams for 7 years. Just special teams. 

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Sean Snyder would be a laughable and abject failure at the TE position at Texas as a hire. K-state fans justifiably revere Snyder, and to a man they spit the bit and protested wildly at Sean Snyder being made the HC after Bill retired, which Bill Snyder tried his darnest to make happen. I would bet years off the back end of my life that he'll never be a plus recruiter, and probably not even an average recruiter. Fuck. That. 

Strictly as a ST coach, Snyder's pretty damn terrific. In 2015 and 2017 Phil Steele had him as special teams' coach of the year.

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2 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Strictly as a ST coach, Snyder's pretty damn terrific. In 2015 and 2017 Phil Steele had him as special teams' coach of the year.

Is he? The same way Drew Mehringer was recruiter of the year with a Texas logo on the front of his shirt because he technically coached WRs at Texas?

Listen, Snyder's stint as a ST coach was is an effort for his pops to get him the HC gig when he retired, before that he's just been an office support guy. Is he a great ST coach? Maybe. Is it equally plausible that he gets credit because Snyder and his entire staffs always stress ST and work on them together? Also possible. But tell me more about his application as a TE coach, a position he's never played or coached at ever in his life? 

We have 2 guys on staff now with good ST experience, one of them already from K-State. If we waste the TE position on this clown then it's a fireable offense.

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Is he? The same way Drew Mehringer was recruiter of the year with a Texas logo on the front of his shirt because he technically coached WRs at Texas?

Listen, Snyder's stint as a ST coach was is an effort for his pops to get him the HC gig when he retired, before that he's just been an office support guy. Is he a great ST coach? Maybe. Is it equally plausible that he gets credit because Snyder and his entire staffs always stress ST and work on them together? Also possible. But tell me more about his application as a TE coach, a position he's never played or coached at ever in his life? 

We have 2 guys on staff now with good ST experience, one of them already from K-State. If we waste the TE position on this clown then it's a fireable offense.

I think most thinking people here are in agreement that as an ST analyst he'd be a very encouraging hire, as a TE coach we'd be bummed.

Gotta hope the Nebraskans are more hooked in than FCB

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1 hour ago, texifornia said:

I think most thinking people here are in agreement that as an ST analyst he'd be a very encouraging hire, as a TE coach we'd be bummed.

Gotta hope the Nebraskans are more hooked in than FCB

I'm actually seeing a lot of posts offering enthusiasm for the on-field role, which is mind-numbing.

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4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I'm actually a lot of posts offering enthusiasm for the on-field role, which is mind-numbing.

they see the last name, where he coached for forever and make assumptions

they are absolutely wrong about him. hiring him as an on field coach would be, bar none, the worst on field assistant hire since at least Mack Brown was here, which is when I started knowing about assistant coaches. 

Charlie Williams was bad, but he had been an on field coach since the mid 80s and spent time in the NFL. he was just bad here as a fit (although he went to USF with Charlie) 

Snyder would be the worst on field assistant hired since the late 90s, full stop.

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they see the last name, where he coached for forever and make assumptions

they are absolutely wrong about him. hiring him as an on field coach would be, bar none, the worst on field assistant hire since at least Mack Brown.

Charlie Williams was bad, but he had been an on field coach since the mid 80s and spent time in the NFL. he was just bad here as a fit (although he went to USF with Charlie) 

Snyder would be the worst on field assistant hired since the late 90s, full stop.

In terms of burning their position groups to the ground, Clay Jennings and Shawn Watson need to be in the conversation.

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K State fans said they have no problem with Sean Snyder just not as a Head Coach. 

Their anger at him was because his Dad was trying to strong arm K State into nepotism. 

Guy played under Hayden Fry and Bill Snyder and coached under Snyder. 

I don't understand the reasoning as a TE coach. 

But I wouldn't say that is a bad thing for sure especially since he wants to be a Head Coach. 

Motivation is the key. He needs a springboard. 

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51 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Hope that means Casey Horny can be kicked to the curb

Tom trying to find an on-field place for Snyder Bc if he’s just a ST analyst, then he has to let his buddy go. Don’t need 2 of them 

Won’t happen 

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57 minutes ago, Texasrocks said:

Saban probably has 4 analysts just assessing the turf each game. 

Let’s see...  I’d probably put Mortensen on grass duty

Dean Altobelli – He is perhaps one of the more interesting ones in this group. He started out at Michigan State playing running back in his freshman season before becoming a little used defensive back for the rest of playing career. Yes, he was a player for Saban while Saban was coaching there, so there’s that tie. But Altobelli went from player to lawyer in one of Michigan’s oldest and most prestigious law firms, even owning a piece of it before dabbling in politics and then asking his firm for leave to pursue his coaching dreams. That has been an ugly legal battle ever since over his partnership, but that’s another story. He left a great six figure job for 45 thousand a year to pursue his dream. He’s also one of the longer serving analysts.

Gordon Steele – Is another interesting story. He is the son of Auburn’s defensive coordinator, Kevin Steele. You may also remember Steele from his time as defensive coordinator at Alabama. Gordon, his son joined the Bama staff last year after working for a year as a graduate assistant at South Alabama and prior to that he was an offensive line coach and run game coordinator at Murray State. He was also at LSU for three seasons as a defensive graduate assistant.

His college playing days were at Valdosta State as an offensive lineman and a member of their 2007 championship team. Steele is hoping to follow in his father’s footsteps and become a valued coach in the future.

Butch Jones – Everyone already knows Butch and his story and Jones is certainly one of the men on the analyst staff who could step into an active coaching role at Alabama or elsewhere in the near future.

Nick Perry – The former Alabama safety who had a few years in the NFL as an undrafted player returned to the Tide in 2017 to become an analyst. He is hoping to use this position as a jump start for his coaching career. He of course is working with the defense.

Javier Arenas – As previously written, former defensive back and special teams returner, Arenas comes to the Tide after five years in the NFL. His work has been recognized as very good and he is sure to be snapped up before much longer. He might even be good enough to be snapped up as a special team coach fairly quickly.

Michael Stoops – Michael has a famous brother, Bob, who won a national championship at Oklahoma. Michael was his brother’s defensive coordinator from 1999 to 2003 and during that championship run. He left afterward and went to Arizona to become head coach from 2004 to 2011. He returned to Oklahoma in 2012. He was fired in Oct. of 2018 by new coach Mike Riley after a dismal defeat to Texas and poor defensive performance. He joined Alabama in 2019.

Major Applewhite – Is back for his second tour of duty at Alabama where he was for one season, offensive coordinator, but this time as an analyst. He was a former Texas quarterback, He started his coaching career as a quarterback coach at Syracuse in 2005 before moving to Rice University as offensive coordinator and then to Alabama in 2007 in the same job.

In 2008 he moved back to Texas to rejoin his former coach, Mack Brown and moved up the ranks from running backs coach to quarterback coach and co-offensive coordinator until the end of 2013 when new coach Charley Strong put in his own staff and Applewhite took the 2014 off with a nice severance package. In 2014 he was named the Houston quarterback coach and offensive coordinator and head coach the following year. He was fired in 2018 and returned to Alabama to an analyst job. Applewhite brings a lot of experience and knowledge to the table and could be considered a coach in waiting that Saban could plug in if someone was hired away from him.

Joe Houston – When Alabama lost two special team analysts last season, Saban wasted no time replacing both. Houston is a former USC kicker who then started his coaching career at El Camino Community College where he worked with special teams from 2012-14. He then started being an analyst in quality control for Toledo before moving to Iowa State in the same job for two years.

Saban was excited to get Houston, who has a reputation of being a “Kicker Whisperer”, or someone who really turns around a kicker. With a new kicker coming onto the Tide’s team this season, that was a real plus.

Johnathan Galante – Like Houston, Galante comes in to help with special teams. He comes with a little less experience. He played linebacker and special teams on a unit known for excellent special team play, Frank Beamer’s Virginia Tech team and became a graduate assistant working with special teams following his playing time for two years until being tapped by Saban for this analyst job.

AJ Milwee – A former quarterback from North Alabama who shattered records there, stayed on after graduation to start his coaching career as a graduate assistant for two years. He then left to become the quarterbacks coach at East Mississippi Community College before joining Terry Bowden’s Akron staff as quarterbacks coach in 2012 and went up through the ranks to become the offensive coordinator. He did some impressive coaching at Akron, helping to get the team to only their second and third and bowl game appearances.

In 2016, Milwee was honored as a member of the American Football Coach’s Association (AFCA) 30 Under 30 Coaches’ Leadership Institute. He is considered a hot young prospect and could actually be a coach in waiting at Alabama if he isn’t snapped up before that.

Alex Mortensen – A former quarterback at Arkansas and Samford, Mortensen got a quick look by the NFL, but was cut. He got into coaching in 2012 with New Mexico Highlands as a quarterback and passing game coach, followed by a quick year with the St. Louis Rams of the NFL. He came to Alabama in 2014 and stayed for four years as a graduate assistant really learning the ropes and last year coached the Birmingham Iron’s wide receivers. Now he is back at Tuscaloosa in an analyst role. His title is offensive analyst. As an interesting side note, he is the son of ESPN personality Chris Mortensen.

Isaac Shewmaker – Graduated high school at Lexington Christian High School in Kentucky, playing both baseball and football. Following his college time, he is pursuing his career in coaching. He is one of the football geeks we talked about earlier. He works on the defensive side of the ball. If you think that football geeks can’t make it to the big time, look at Butch Jones, who was in the band in high school not a football star, yet he made it to head coach job in the SEC with millions in pay. Shewmaker has the drive and energy to make his own dreams come true.

So now you know the “Men behind the scenes” and see who are in the “Nick Saban Coaching Academy”, the “Witness Relocation and Rehabilitation  Center for Disgraced Coaches”, “Coaches in Waiting”, or whatever category you want to put them in. But you have to admit their certainly a diverse group of individuals that Saban feels can help not only the Tide and himself, but help themselves in return. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

Let’s see...  I’d probably put Mortensen on grass duty

Dean Altobelli – He is perhaps one of the more interesting ones in this group. He started out at Michigan State playing running back in his freshman season before becoming a little used defensive back for the rest of playing career. Yes, he was a player for Saban while Saban was coaching there, so there’s that tie. But Altobelli went from player to lawyer in one of Michigan’s oldest and most prestigious law firms, even owning a piece of it before dabbling in politics and then asking his firm for leave to pursue his coaching dreams. That has been an ugly legal battle ever since over his partnership, but that’s another story. He left a great six figure job for 45 thousand a year to pursue his dream. He’s also one of the longer serving analysts.

Gordon Steele – Is another interesting story. He is the son of Auburn’s defensive coordinator, Kevin Steele. You may also remember Steele from his time as defensive coordinator at Alabama. Gordon, his son joined the Bama staff last year after working for a year as a graduate assistant at South Alabama and prior to that he was an offensive line coach and run game coordinator at Murray State. He was also at LSU for three seasons as a defensive graduate assistant.

His college playing days were at Valdosta State as an offensive lineman and a member of their 2007 championship team. Steele is hoping to follow in his father’s footsteps and become a valued coach in the future.

Butch Jones – Everyone already knows Butch and his story and Jones is certainly one of the men on the analyst staff who could step into an active coaching role at Alabama or elsewhere in the near future.

Nick Perry – The former Alabama safety who had a few years in the NFL as an undrafted player returned to the Tide in 2017 to become an analyst. He is hoping to use this position as a jump start for his coaching career. He of course is working with the defense.

Javier Arenas – As previously written, former defensive back and special teams returner, Arenas comes to the Tide after five years in the NFL. His work has been recognized as very good and he is sure to be snapped up before much longer. He might even be good enough to be snapped up as a special team coach fairly quickly.

Michael Stoops – Michael has a famous brother, Bob, who won a national championship at Oklahoma. Michael was his brother’s defensive coordinator from 1999 to 2003 and during that championship run. He left afterward and went to Arizona to become head coach from 2004 to 2011. He returned to Oklahoma in 2012. He was fired in Oct. of 2018 by new coach Mike Riley after a dismal defeat to Texas and poor defensive performance. He joined Alabama in 2019.

Major Applewhite – Is back for his second tour of duty at Alabama where he was for one season, offensive coordinator, but this time as an analyst. He was a former Texas quarterback, He started his coaching career as a quarterback coach at Syracuse in 2005 before moving to Rice University as offensive coordinator and then to Alabama in 2007 in the same job.

In 2008 he moved back to Texas to rejoin his former coach, Mack Brown and moved up the ranks from running backs coach to quarterback coach and co-offensive coordinator until the end of 2013 when new coach Charley Strong put in his own staff and Applewhite took the 2014 off with a nice severance package. In 2014 he was named the Houston quarterback coach and offensive coordinator and head coach the following year. He was fired in 2018 and returned to Alabama to an analyst job. Applewhite brings a lot of experience and knowledge to the table and could be considered a coach in waiting that Saban could plug in if someone was hired away from him.

Joe Houston – When Alabama lost two special team analysts last season, Saban wasted no time replacing both. Houston is a former USC kicker who then started his coaching career at El Camino Community College where he worked with special teams from 2012-14. He then started being an analyst in quality control for Toledo before moving to Iowa State in the same job for two years.

Saban was excited to get Houston, who has a reputation of being a “Kicker Whisperer”, or someone who really turns around a kicker. With a new kicker coming onto the Tide’s team this season, that was a real plus.

Johnathan Galante – Like Houston, Galante comes in to help with special teams. He comes with a little less experience. He played linebacker and special teams on a unit known for excellent special team play, Frank Beamer’s Virginia Tech team and became a graduate assistant working with special teams following his playing time for two years until being tapped by Saban for this analyst job.

AJ Milwee – A former quarterback from North Alabama who shattered records there, stayed on after graduation to start his coaching career as a graduate assistant for two years. He then left to become the quarterbacks coach at East Mississippi Community College before joining Terry Bowden’s Akron staff as quarterbacks coach in 2012 and went up through the ranks to become the offensive coordinator. He did some impressive coaching at Akron, helping to get the team to only their second and third and bowl game appearances.

In 2016, Milwee was honored as a member of the American Football Coach’s Association (AFCA) 30 Under 30 Coaches’ Leadership Institute. He is considered a hot young prospect and could actually be a coach in waiting at Alabama if he isn’t snapped up before that.

Alex Mortensen – A former quarterback at Arkansas and Samford, Mortensen got a quick look by the NFL, but was cut. He got into coaching in 2012 with New Mexico Highlands as a quarterback and passing game coach, followed by a quick year with the St. Louis Rams of the NFL. He came to Alabama in 2014 and stayed for four years as a graduate assistant really learning the ropes and last year coached the Birmingham Iron’s wide receivers. Now he is back at Tuscaloosa in an analyst role. His title is offensive analyst. As an interesting side note, he is the son of ESPN personality Chris Mortensen.

Isaac Shewmaker – Graduated high school at Lexington Christian High School in Kentucky, playing both baseball and football. Following his college time, he is pursuing his career in coaching. He is one of the football geeks we talked about earlier. He works on the defensive side of the ball. If you think that football geeks can’t make it to the big time, look at Butch Jones, who was in the band in high school not a football star, yet he made it to head coach job in the SEC with millions in pay. Shewmaker has the drive and energy to make his own dreams come true.

So now you know the “Men behind the scenes” and see who are in the “Nick Saban Coaching Academy”, the “Witness Relocation and Rehabilitation  Center for Disgraced Coaches”, “Coaches in Waiting”, or whatever category you want to put them in. But you have to admit their certainly a diverse group of individuals that Saban feels can help not only the Tide and himself, but help themselves in return. 

 

When did Mike Riley coach at OU?  Totally missed that.

Also "Kicker Whisperer" may need to polish his resume.

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13 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Herman fucking up Okams interview would be too on brand

May not be Mensa "fucking up Okam's interview".  Bailor could be matching Texas offer, and Okam would rather work for Dave Aranda than Chris Ash??

In a year or two, Okam may want to move up to the NFL anyway and in the mean time the pressure to recruit well at Bailor is significantly less than at Texas.

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1 minute ago, LTtxfan said:

May not be Mensa "fucking up Okam's interview".  Bailor could be matching Texas offer, and Okam would rather work for Dave Aranda than Chris Ash??

In a year or two, Okam may want to move up to the NFL anyway and in the mean time the pressure to recruit well at Bailor is significantly less than at Texas.

Yeah, it's been reported that Okam has some very real coaching aspirations. The job security bought by a new coach is not to be undersold, and he'll work for a guy he likes in McGuire if they put him at DC. They'll match Texas money, too. 

Giving all of that up to come work for a coach who will be fired after one more bad year seems dumb. 

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Who would have imagined Herman would have fucked up going after Okam? Other than most of the regular posters on the Football board, I mean.

 

3 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

May not be Mensa "fucking up Okam's interview".  Bailor could be matching Texas offer, and Okam would rather work for Dave Aranda than Chris Ash??

In a year or two, Okam may want to move up to the NFL anyway and in the mean time the pressure to recruit well at Bailor is significantly less than at Texas.

How many times are you going to just willfully stick your head in the sand and assume it's some other outlying circumstance BESIDES Tom Herman? Despite all the evidence to the contrary? And by the way, hiring Chris Ash is on Herman, so even if that were the case it's still Tom fucking Herman.

If he's good at his job and with the talent on campus, Okam wouldn't have to recruit shit to get a shot in the NFL in 2 years. And by the way, your efforts to rationalize this nonsense basically has you saying Baylor is a better job than Texas for aspiring coaches. If you believe that, well, again, don't you think that's indicative of a bigger problem? 

And stop trying to tell us to go get Clint Hurtt or Bo Davis. That is some weak, tired ass and unoriginal shit. 

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