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8 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Exactly what I said.  But he’s very obviously not doing everything he can to get off the streets, either.  Which leads me to believe he doesn’t really have a problem being homeless. So yeah, he’s part of the problem. 

He could also be getting a government sponsored free or cheap cell phone plan. It really doesn't matter anyways, you cannot fucking function in today's society without a phone. How many functioning payphones have you seen lately?

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2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

You're an idiot. 

You want these people to go get jobs. Guess what interviewers will ask for so they can contact you if you get the job? 

Again, idiot. 

Fuck you.
 

Plenty of ways to do it, and none of it requires a smart phone.  Join a shelter and have them call there.  People somehow got along with their lives just fine before smart phones came along, you know, 15 years ago. Somehow, some way, the group of Mexicans down at the Home Depot find work without one. Perplexing I know.  Some people are just going to bum. There is a job for every able bodied person who wants one. 

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2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Fuck you.
 

Plenty of ways to do it, and none of it requires a smart phone. People somehow got along with their lives just fine before smart phones came along, you know, 15 years ago. Somehow, some way, the group of Mexicans down at the Home Depot find work without one. Perplexing I know.  Some people are just going to bum. There is a job for every able bodied person who wants one. 

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8 hours ago, GSU&UT said:

You heard it folks, if you have a smartphone then you shouldn't be homeless. That is some Ronald Reagan esque garbage criticism.

it wasn't the smart phone that irritated him, it was his brand new caddilac el dorado.

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It's just drugs. The more you decriminalize, the worse it gets. Sure, normal people functioning in society should be allowed to alter their mind. People who are shitting in the streets should be put in a place where they cannot get their hands on drugs.

 

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4 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

People somehow got along with their lives just fine before smart phones came along, you know, 15 years ago.

It's not 15 years ago.

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 Somehow, some way, the group of Mexicans down at the Home Depot find work without one.

And those people are often one small step away from outright homelessness and the perpetually-downward-cycle that brings.

What is fucking wrong with you?

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Perplexing I know.  Some people are just going to bum. There is a job for every able bodied person who wants one. 

Imagine living in exorbitant wealth and being this shitty of a human being. wow

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On 11/1/2019 at 11:47 AM, fattyflattie said:

Exactly what I said.  But he’s very obviously not doing everything he can to get off the streets, either.  Which leads me to believe he doesn’t really have a problem being homeless. So yeah, he’s part of the problem. 

Or he's mentally ill and his family/friends are paying the bill to at least try and stay in touch.  Heartless family fucks. 

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The best way to end homelessness and the drug/mental health problems associated with it is to invest in supportive housing. It's in the name - they are homeless. Provide a home. Not a hard concept.

It's documented that supportive housing and all that goes with it saves governments money vs the current way of doing, or not doing things. Same as healthcare. Same as environmental/climate policy. The cost of inaction is not something Americans appear to understand very well. And the FOX News crowd crying "SoCiAlIsM," either as a method to herd the mouthbreathers or because they are one themself, just compounds things. The "fiscal conservatives" that come out against it because it costs too much are either blatantly insulting the intelligence of others by expecting them to buy that argument, or are too stupid to realize it's wrong.

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2 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Or he's mentally ill and his family/friends are paying the bill to at least try and stay in touch.  Heartless family fucks. 

They should help him find him a home. 
 
But neither of us know if he’s an addict, mentally ill, just down on his luck, or someone who would rather beg than work.  All we know is he has a nice phone and all the time in the world to use it. 
 

17 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Imagine living in exorbitant wealth and being this shitty of a human being. wow

I’m not certain you know what exorbitant means.  Also, shitty human being? That’s rough. I’ve given plenty of money to the beggars around Houston. None of them were playing candy crush on their iPhone, though. 

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22 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

There is a job for every able bodied person who wants one. 

And a large portion of them, and nearly all of the one available to the population in question, do not pay enough for a single adult to get a place to live in a major city - aka where all the jobs are.

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On 11/1/2019 at 11:42 AM, GSU&UT said:

You heard it folks, if you have a smartphone then you shouldn't be homeless. That is some Ronald Reagan esque garbage criticism.

 

On 11/1/2019 at 11:47 AM, fattyflattie said:

Exactly what I said.  But he’s very obviously not doing everything he can to get off the streets, either.  Which leads me to believe he doesn’t really have a problem being homeless. So yeah, he’s part of the problem. 

That is quite the assessment going off of a photograph. Let me post a picture of one Donald J. Trump posing in front of the Taj Mahal casino so you can assess how much he knows about actually running one.

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There’s definitely more to that woman’s story that isn’t being shared but it’s her right to share only what she wants.

in my limited experience with people with addition issues, they constantly have ID or other document problems. And when you attempt to point out how they can start to resolve them, they have a million reasons why it won’t work. As in they have warrants out for their arrest somewhere and can’t risk walking into the DPS office.

i don’t buy that a woman goes from 20 years as a nurse in Michigan to homeless in Houston in a few months. Unless you’ve already burned every relationship in your past. 

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There is currently a 3.7% unemployment rate.  Why the fuck do we need a federal job guarantee program?
Specifically, to this thread there absolutely has to be something willfully omitted.  The whole thing reads like the wheelchair vetern at the Orioles game story from The Wire.
 


Have you ever applied for a job and entered “none” in the “residential address” section?

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1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Yes, shitty human being.

Lol. You are so fucking hyperbolic it’s hard to take you serious.  Dollars to donuts my family spends considerably more time and money on charitable efforts.  We just choose to our to put our efforts into people who never had a chance. 
 

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Yes, exorbitant

Again. LOL.  Flattering, but incorrect. Maybe check the new car fanatic or watch fanatic thread over the last page or two. Again, hyperbole.  But what else should we expect. 

 

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

The idea that "some people are just going to burn" is bullshit puritanism.

Seems you got out a bit over your skis. I said “some people are going to BUM”.  And this is true. Ask the several able bodied mid 20’s couples that park their ass at Eldridge/10 every day from 1000-1300, then leave once the lunch rush is over. One in particular would be very qualified for the receptionist anywhere I’ve ever worked. There to catch the lunch crowd then gone. In their 20’s. Able bodied.  Bums.    So, Puritanism?
 

 

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19 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There’s definitely more to that woman’s story that isn’t being shared but it’s her right to share only what she wants.

in my limited experience with people with addition issues, they constantly have ID or other document problems. And when you attempt to point out how they can start to resolve them, they have a million reasons why it won’t work. As in they have warrants out for their arrest somewhere and can’t risk walking into the DPS office.

i don’t buy that a woman goes from 20 years as a nurse in Michigan to homeless in Houston in a few months. Unless you’ve already burned every relationship in your past. 

Well, it isn't addiction issues per se.  However, once one's addiction causes one to pass through a certain bottom, ID and other accouterments of society do tend to fall by the wayside.

And I do fully believe that there is a segment of the homeless population that truly enjoys being homeless, or rather, the complete lack of response to authority.  It may be driven by florid mental illness (schizophrenia) and/or personality and behavior disorders.  In other words, some of them are going to have to be coerced off the streets.  Simply providing housing and support isn't going to cut it.

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2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

And I do fully believe that there is a segment of the homeless population that truly enjoys being homeless, or rather, the complete lack of response to authority.  It may be driven by florid mental illness (schizophrenia) and/or personality and behavior disorders.  In other words, some of them are going to have to be coerced off the streets.  Simply providing housing and support isn't going to cut it.

Perhaps true for many currently suffering from the institutionalization of their status, but with the proper supports and safety nets it's not the case moving forward.

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44 minutes ago, gmr548 said:


 

 


Can you clarify what you meant here?

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She’s appears to be in her 20’s, appears moderately attractive with an athletic figure, and I’m making an assumption she can answer a phone or smile and say, “can you sign here, I’ll page John and he’ll come up and meet you. Please have a seat. Can I interest you in a water or coffee?”   
 

She would probably have to give up her 3 hour/day  panhandling gig, to make it work.  

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3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

She’s appears to be in her 20’s, appears moderately attractive with an athletic figure, and I’m making an assumption she can answer a phone or smile and say, “can you sign here, I’ll page John and he’ll come up and meet you. Please have a seat. Can I interest you in a water or coffee?”   
 

She would probably have to give up her 3 hour/day  panhandling gig, to make it work.  

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On 11/2/2019 at 3:25 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There’s definitely more to that woman’s story that isn’t being shared but it’s her right to share only what she wants.

in my limited experience with people with addition issues, they constantly have ID or other document problems. 

Addition is a hell of a drug

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2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Likely. It’s sad. But closer explains what I meant when I said “some will always just bum” than some far fetched double predestination theology from 300 years ago. 

Yeah a reasonably hot 30 yr old female with trouble finding employment/staying employed?   If there is any doubt, there is no doubt.  It's sad but true.

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On 11/1/2019 at 10:22 AM, Incredulity said:

Homeless man with a smartphone charging from a private outlet,  quite the contrast.

Saw one with 2 iPhone's walk up with his beer at 2PM, sit on a wheelchair and pull out his sign asking for cash at 183 & jamestown. I make a u turn and have to pull over because an ambulance and fire truck are hauling ass. Not for an accident, to help a person living in a bad ass tent on the southwest corner of lamar/183. She could not get up. I parked by Nuevo MX and walk over to see what's up. A firefighter tells me they're leaving and he's sick of these non-emergency calls. Felt pretty bad for him and his crew.

This city is falling apart.

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Austin didn't make the list...

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Over half a million Americans are currently homeless. After a period of progress and decline, the U.S. homeless population has increased slightly in 2020 and 2022, according to a report from the Department of Housing and Urban Development. The 2021 numbers were affected by shelters lowering capacity due to the Covid-19 pandemic during the count that takes places in the first month(s) of every year. It now stands at 582,462 individuals with two thirds living in shelters. While the number of sheltered individuals in 2022 approached the 2020 pre-pandemic level again, the increase in the nation's homeless is primarily due to a rise in the unsheltered homeless population.

Around half of all unsheltered homeless people in the U.S. are located in California. The rates of unsheltered homeless populations are also high in other states on the West Coast. Tent cities are common occurrences in these states as a result of the growing unsheltered homeless populations. This very visible symptom of homelessness has proven divisive, and while some cities have embraced designated areas for camping as a solution for unsheltered people, others have recently cracked down on encampments, for example Sacramento, San Jose and Oakland.

Half of the U.S. homeless population is scattered across the country's 50 biggest cities and their surrounding areas. 22 percent of them live in just two cities - New York and Los Angeles. ...

https://www.statista.com/chart/6949/the-us-cities-with-the-most-homeless-people/

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On 11/2/2019 at 1:53 PM, gmr548 said:

The best way to end homelessness and the drug/mental health problems associated with it is to invest in supportive housing. It's in the name - they are homeless. Provide a home. Not a hard concept.

It's documented that supportive housing and all that goes with it saves governments money vs the current way of doing, or not doing things. Same as healthcare. Same as environmental/climate policy. The cost of inaction is not something Americans appear to understand very well. And the FOX News crowd crying "SoCiAlIsM," either as a method to herd the mouthbreathers or because they are one themself, just compounds things. The "fiscal conservatives" that come out against it because it costs too much are either blatantly insulting the intelligence of others by expecting them to buy that argument, or are too stupid to realize it's wrong.

Housing - subsidized, safe, furnished and made a home. Follow simple rules and zero chance your evicted, that’s what stabilized housing means.

trauma care - homelessness is deeply traumatic, reactionary state, inability to function outside of reacting to the very next thing. Peer support, professional counseling, psychiatric care if needed. Substance abuse recover comes in here as well. I mentioned peer support but this is super critical to success.

education and job training - if education is lacking, GED/HSE and then vocational training. Not based on what the program wants them to do but based on their wants and desires.

additional support - help finding and keeping a job, continued supportive services, etc. the number one predictor of homelessness is prior homelessness, the recovery process for most is not months it’s years. 
 

this model works for 18-26 year olds coming out of the god forsaken Texas foster care system (many runaway to the streets), it’s proven empirically and anecdotally I’ve seen first hand success stories that will blow your fucking mind away. I think it can be adapted for adults too. Best salve for all the bullshit in society is seeing baby mommas thriving when they looked to be written off, cast aside and not wanted. It will change your life in ways that make you grateful to know them. 

 

 

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Fatty
come on up to Seattle, live homeless, say, up on first hill, for a couple of weeks, then give us your oral report.  

Be sure to hit Chuminh on Sundays when they feed the community down the hill on Jackson. It’s so fucking Christian of them that I assume they’re Buddhists.
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55 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:




If it's true that it's just drugs, why in your opinion has Portugal been so successful after legalizing drugs?

It's not just drugs, and I applaud Portugal, but I imagine that Portugal has a much tighter-knit social fabric than the US.

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