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6 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Maybe I’m an idiot but wouldn’t depressing voting by mail hurt trump and the GOP more than the dems? Specifically among the olds and rurals in Arizona, Florida and Wisconsin?  Am I missing something here? 

There was an Emerson poll conducted recently that showed a gargantuan split in voting intention based on the intent to vote in person and via the mail. 

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Just now, Fozzz said:

There was an Emerson poll conducted recently that showed a gargantuan split in voting intention based on the intent to vote in person and via the mail. 

You do realize there is a difference between voter intention and voter reality right? 
 

Or I guess maybe not. 

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Just now, JimmyJames said:

You do realize there is a difference between voter intention and voter reality right? 
 

Or I guess maybe not. 

I’m not predicting that this is actually going to happen. I’m just saying that it’s interesting. The fact that Trump is pursuing this strategy makes me think his team has additional evidence that suppressing mail in voting helps him. Whether it will work, who knows but probably not. 

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2 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

A cucking of awe inspiring proportions. Dem leadership would be upset for a week and then return to being the subs that they are. 

I think it would be out of their hands. Citizens got behind BLM over the police murder of a man in broad daylight in front of protesting citizens. The murder of the republic altogether will lead to bigger involvement.

I want to see a national strike. I want to see mobs (in masks) blocking traffic everywhere and choking movement altogether in DC. 

There will be a roll call of which members of Congress join the crowds and which ones don't. 

The cosplay Balaclava-ed commandos with their ARs will either put up or shut up. I wouldn't weep to see them act and then be torn limb from limb. Think of the idiot with the bow and arrow only more fun.

Then we get to see where the Army and the National Guard stand. If they stand with those giving orders, then I hope they face a rain of bananas as they hose down protesters with tear gas, water cannon, and machine gun fire.

Let it not end with a whimper.

Hilarious? For those like Mencken who saw it coming and nihilists who like to see good things end.

I'll withhold my emotional action until the time comes. I never expected any of this. I have no pre-loaded response for hilarity.

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1 minute ago, Fozzz said:

I’m not predicting that this is actually going to happen. I’m just saying that it’s interesting. The fact that Trump is pursuing this strategy makes me think his team has additional evidence that suppressing mail in voting helps him. Whether it will work, who knows but probably not. 

If team trump thinks it will work that most assuredly means it will not. Pay attention to the last 4 years if you need any proof of that. 

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1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

I think it would be out of their hands. Citizens got behind BLM over the police murder of a man in broad daylight in front of protesting citizens. The murder of the republic altogether will lead to bigger involvement.

I want to see a national strike. I want to see mobs (in masks) blocking traffic everywhere and choking movement altogether in DC. 

There will be a roll call of which members of Congress join the crowds and which ones don't. 

The cosplay Balaclava-ed commandos with their ARs will either put up or shut up. I wouldn't weep to see them act and then be torn limb from limb. Think of the idiot with the bow and arrow only more fun.

Then we get to see where the Army and the National Guard stand. If they stand with those giving orders, then I hope they face a rain of bananas as they hose down protesters with tear gas, water cannon, and machine gun fire.

Let it not end with a whimper.

Hilarious? For those like Mencken who saw it coming and nihilists who like to see good things end.

I'll withhold my emotional action until the time comes. I never expected any of this. I have no pre-loaded response for hilarity.

There would be protests - but like the BLM protests or the pussy hat protests, they wouldn’t accomplish anything. Protests alone don’t do anything. There has to be an organized opposition, kind of like what we had with the socialist parties and trade unions in the early 20th century. Those things don’t exist anymore and aren’t going to exist for the foreseeable future.  

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4 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

There would be protests - but like the BLM protests or the pussy hat protests, they wouldn’t accomplish anything. Protests alone don’t do anything. There has to be an organized opposition, kind of like what we had with the socialist parties and trade unions in the early 20th century. Those things don’t exist anymore and aren’t going to exist for the foreseeable future.  

I think you're too pessimistic and I'm possibly too optimistic. 

I don't see universally tame response. I see someone like AOC and/or other voices to take the lead if the usual Dem suspects dither. Pelosi and Warren showed up outside the White House. Adam Schiff shows all the signs of a great leader of principle.

The actual instruments of force (military and law "enforcement") may likely decide the balance. Then there's Blackwater Trumps Ice goons.

There will be blood and chaos. How it ends? Haven't a clue.

But maybe you're right and everybody will cower in their condos muttering, "Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone. "

We enter the Howard Beal faze. Network is a movie that actually becomes more relevant and prophetic every goddamn day.

 

 

Faye Dunaway looks better everytime you watch it, too.

If I could seize the TV stations, I'd just constantly rebroadcast Network and A Face in the Crowd.

 

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The "would-wouldn't" crowd could debate the relative merits of the immortal Lee Remick and Patricia Neal.

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59 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I think you're too pessimistic and I'm possibly too optimistic. 

I don't see universally tame response. I see someone like AOC and/or other voices to take the lead if the usual Dem suspects dither. Pelosi and Warren showed up outside the White House. Adam Schiff shows all the signs of a great leader of principle.

The actual instruments of force (military and law "enforcement") may likely decide the balance. Then there's Blackwater Trumps Ice goons.

There will be blood and chaos. How it ends? Haven't a clue.

But maybe you're right and everybody will cower in their condos muttering, "Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone. "

We enter the Howard Beal faze. Network is a movie that actually becomes more relevant and prophetic every goddamn day.

 

 

Faye Dunaway looks better everytime you watch it, too.

If I could seize the TV stations, I'd just constantly rebroadcast Network and A Face in the Crowd.

 

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The "would-wouldn't" crowd could debate the relative merits of the immortal Lee Remick and Patricia Neal.

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I don’t know what any of this means. 

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2 hours ago, Lobo said:

Alright, Trumpers...here we go...not saying Biden hasn't mistaken a state for another over the years but listen to the point your God-King is trying to make.  This is verbatim, not selective editing:

"And the worst is when he's in, like, Indiana.  And he says, 'It's great to be with the people of Florida.'  And you have palm trees all over." 

So let's break that down since you guys are smarter than non-Trumpers.  So does that mean that Biden is actually in Indiana, but thought he was in Florida?  Then how does that explain the palm trees in Trump's scenario since Indiana doesn't have palm trees?  Does that mean that because he sees palm trees, indicative of Florida, that Biden mistakes it for Indiana?  Does Biden think Indiana has palm trees?  Which is it?  Because it you just read it word for word, anybody who can spot an elephant can tell that Trump wants to suggest Biden said he was with the people of Florida, but was actually in the state of Indiana, despite their being abundant palm trees visible to Biden.  

"And the worst is when he's in, like, Indiana.  And he says, 'It's great to be with the people of Florida.'  And you have palm trees all over."

That's one of the most insane things ever said from behind that Presidential Seal.  And somehow you dumb fucking worshippers will walk away saying, 'Yeah, Biden's going senile...doesn't even know when he's in Indiana.'  For a guy that lives in Florida, that Trump thinks the palm trees are indicative of the time Biden was really in Indiana losing his memory...and you guys think you won the day...holy shit.  How do you guys talk to your children?  

 

This is what you tell your kids.  I thought we answered this back on shaggy?

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2 hours ago, Fozzz said:

I’m not predicting that this is actually going to happen. I’m just saying that it’s interesting. The fact that Trump is pursuing this strategy makes me think his team has additional evidence that suppressing mail in voting helps him. Whether it will work, who knows but probably not. 

I think its time to stop attributing words like "strategy" and "plan" to anything Trump says

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Let me preface this by saying that I still think there is not enough empirical evidence to suggest that everybody will forsake unemployment insurance in favor of a lower paycheck.  But having said that, Trump said this an official event?  Da fuh?

"$400 is more than the $600 that was originally agreed."  

I mean, I know we hate China and the Middle East right now...but is the middle of a pandemic the best time to abandon maths and arabic number arithmetic?  

Also, anybody else notice he's holding his nomination acceptance speech at the White House, holding his Covid-19 press conferences in New Jersey, and holding his national security briefings at the Whirlpool factory in Ohio?  I mean, that makes perfect sense, right?  

I know I interview for my new job at my old office, I discuss my family's health at sporting goods stores instead of the doctor's office, and I have my most sensitive and deepest conversations in the appliance section of Best Buy.  that's how you look like a fucking leader bitches!

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I'm starting to agree with Brisket that we are a failed state.  In my neck of the woods, the local bulletin board is thrilled as a pig in shit with the EOs today.

I posited whether this was dictator like and many have chimed in that it is and they are FUCKING OK with it.

We're done.  It was a nice 230 year ride. 

Park's closed.  Moose out front shoulda told ya.

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I'm starting to agree with Brisket that we are a failed state.  In my neck of the woods, the local bulletin board is thrilled as a pig in shit with the EOs today.
I posited whether this was dictator like and many have chimed in that it is and they are FUCKING OK with it.
We're done.  It was a nice 230 year ride. 
Park's closed.  Moose out front shoulda told ya.

The Trump era has exposed what was always hiding under the facade of the GOP. They don’t care about the country or people. They care about winning. I’ve watched principled conservatives who decried anytime Obama did an EO act like it’s not big deal that Trump does them now. They simply only care about holding onto power. Look at Lindsey Graham. Look at Turtle. I really hope November 2020 is a reckoning.

Y’all are getting it more and more. And I’m sorry, because the truth is horrific.

The right in this country WANTS us to be a fascist authoritarian state. It’s not subtle, or ambiguous. If the senate tomorrow declared that trump was a living god, and thus will be president for life, and trump sealed it with an EO, they would die from pure ecstasy.

The approach of the right is completely incompatible with a functioning, continuing republic. And they are never going away. There’s no fixing this. We’re done. The best we can do is delay the inevitable.
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