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On 9/15/2020 at 5:12 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

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how condescending to tell people managing the fire fighting to stop worrying about climate change because it’s going to get cooler soon.

I can’t even understand why Trump does these events. I have to assume someone talks him into it and that person gets yelled at later on.

It's so he can sit behind that little seal.   Imagine having to be the one to set things up, and forget that seal.  Like by now anyone wouldn't know trump holds the office.  Notice I didn't say he "is" president.   But that seals like his crown.

On 9/15/2020 at 2:49 PM, Pancho said:

 

I think it's sad that the AG has little clue how VBM works in all the states.  And even sadder that he uses his office to spread fear.   

For the record, in Texas your mail in ballot goes into an unmarked envelope which maintains your secrecy.   That envelope then fits in another that has a barcode that tracks it from entering the USPS into the EA office.  

 

On 9/16/2020 at 5:42 PM, Hornius Emeritus said:


Sort of sad to hear him say that about the system that gave him the White House four years ago, being that he's been in charge of the system for the last four years.

And the fact he put together a commission on voter fraud early on in his term.  A commission that closed quietly because they found nothing.  If we have all this fraud going on, why didn't that commission bring it forward then?  Even potential fraud.

 

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And the fact he put together a commission on voter fraud early on in his term.  A commission that closed quietly because they found nothing.  If we have all this fraud going on, why didn't that commission bring it forward then?  Even potential fraud.
 

It was my thinking that the commission was a ruse to get voter data and that it closed when the states wouldn’t give up the goods.
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You and me both, Mo Horn...way too early.  Got a weird feeling some other massive news is gonna drop today about Trump and his handling of Covid-19.  And the nation will move on like it's no big deal.  

Are we numbing to this bullshit because of the cycle of Covid-19, or is the cycle of Covid-19 numbing us because of this bullshit?  I mean we're 8 months into it, my routine has been largely the same save for the last month of remote learning with my Kindergartner.  But it seems like the shit tumbling out of the White House is more substantial than ever (and that's saying something)...but in a way...we're all just sort of "Meh" about it.  I guess it's because we're close to the election so we sorta see the light at the end of the tunnel.  But in other ways, I think that we've "Miles to Go Before we Sleep."  I've said it too many times before but our nation's Darkest Hour is still yet to come.  

I could post that I saw a truck with Trump stickers all over it stopping at homes in my neighborhood that had Biden signs in their yards.  And you'd see the truck slow/stop as if they were scribbling down the address.........and then moving along at a normal speed until the next house with a Biden sign.  As if they were making a list/map of overtly Biden supporters in the area for some unknown, but likely sinister, reason.  And yesterday you'd know I was lying.  But this morning, you'd think "Yeah, that's probably happening around America.  God knows why?"  

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This is the trump strategy - he used it in the 80s and 90s while losing a fortune in the casino business. When shit goes bad, distract. If the news isn't good, change the news. 

It's trump's single greatest strength and is key to how he has remained untouchable. He can't dazzle us with brilliance, so he baffles with bullshit

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18 minutes ago, Captainant said:

This is the trump strategy - he used it in the 80s and 90s while losing a fortune in the casino business. When shit goes bad, distract. If the news isn't good, change the news. 

It's trump's single greatest strength and is key to how he has remained untouchable. He can't dazzle us with brilliance, so he baffles with bullshit

So we need ourselves a Big Ass Fan or one of them there Antifa leafblowers because I want that shit all over him.

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39 minutes ago, Gooby said:

Fighting alleged indoctrination with actual indoctrination.

I've been reading the transcript of the speech yesterday. I'll post it in the spoiler below. The National Association of Scholars is involved. The have ties to UT (and A&M) and I'll also include the Wiki link here for them. I know it's Wiki, but it's a good overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_of_Scholars

He also references Howard Zinn in his speech (probably lucky for Mr. Zinn that he is deceased or he would have been put on The List of People Who Should Be Locked Up that is circulating among the Q crowd). "Zinn's book, "A People’s History of the United States, is widely used in schools since it was published in 1980, is credited for helping popularize a bottom-up approach to history, as an alternative to telling the story of the U.S. via the top-down achievements of elite white men."  Prior sentence courtesy of Time magazine.

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Thank you very much. Thank you, Mike. A great Vice President. I am truly honored to be here at the very first White House Conference on American History. So important.

Our mission is to defend the legacy of America's founding, the virtue of America's heroes, and the nobility of the American character. We must clear away the twisted web of lies in our schools and classrooms, and teach our children the magnificent truth about our country. We want our sons and daughters to know that they are the citizens of the most exceptional nation in the history of the world. [Applause]

To grow up in America is to live in a land where anything is possible, where anyone can rise, and where any dream can come true -- all because of the immortal principles our nation's founders inscribed nearly two and a half centuries ago.

That's why we have come to the National Archives, the sacred home of our national memory. In this great chamber, we preserve our glorious inheritance: the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.

On this very day in 1787, our Founding Fathers signed the Constitution at Independence Hall in Philadelphia. It was the fulfillment of a thousand years of Western civilization. Our Constitution was the product of centuries of tradition, wisdom, and experience. No political document has done more to advance the human condition or propel the engine of progress.

Yet, as we gather this afternoon, a radical movement is attempting to demolish this treasured and precious inheritance. We can't let that happen. [Applause] Left-wing mobs have torn down statues of our founders, desecrated our memorials, and carried out a campaign of violence and anarchy. Far-left demonstrators have chanted the words "America was never great." The left has launched a vicious and violent assault on law enforcement -- the universal symbol of the rule of law in America. These radicals have been aided and abetted by liberal politicians, establishment media, and even large corporations.

Whether it is the mob on the street, or the cancel culture in the boardroom, the goal is the same: to silence dissent, to scare you out of speaking the truth, and to bully Americans into abandoning their values, their heritage, and their very way of life.

We are here today to declare that we will never submit to tyranny. We will reclaim our history and our country for citizens of every race, color, religion, and creed.

The radicals burning American flags want to burn down the principles enshrined in our founding documents, including the bedrock principle of equal justice under law. In order to radically transform America, they must first cause Americans to lose confidence in who we are, where we came from, and what we believe. As I said at Mount Rushmore -- which they would love to rip down and it rip it down fast, and that's never going to happen -- two months ago, the left-wing cultural revolution is designed to overthrow the American Revolution.

As many of you testified today, the left-wing rioting and mayhem are the direct result of decades of left-wing indoctrination in our schools. It's gone on far too long. Our children are instructed from propaganda tracts, like those of Howard Zinn, that try to make students ashamed of their own history.

The left has warped, distorted, and defiled the American story with deceptions, falsehoods, and lies. There is no better example than the New York Times' totally discredited 1619 Project. This project rewrites American history to teach our children that we were founded on the principle of oppression, not freedom.

Nothing could be further from the truth. America's founding set in motion the unstoppable chain of events that abolished slavery, secured civil rights, defeated communism and fascism, and built the most fair, equal, and prosperous nation in human history. [Applause]

The narratives about America being pushed by the far-left and being chanted in the streets bear a striking resemblance to the anti-American propaganda of our adversaries -- because both groups want to see America weakened, derided, and totally diminished.

Students in our universities are inundated with critical race theory. This is a Marxist doctrine holding that America is a wicked and racist nation, that even young children are complicit in oppression, and that our entire society must be radically transformed. Critical race theory is being forced into our children's schools, it's being imposed into workplace trainings, and it's being deployed to rip apart friends, neighbors, and families.

A perfect example of critical race theory was recently published by the Smithsonian Institution. This document alleged that concepts such as hard work, rational thinking, the nuclear family, and belief in God were not values that unite all Americans, but were instead aspects of "whiteness." This is offensive and outrageous to Americans of every ethnicity, and it is especially harmful to children of minority backgrounds who should be uplifted, not disparaged.

Teaching this horrible doctrine to our children is a form of child abuse in the truest sense of those words. For many years now, the radicals have mistaken Americans' silence for weakness. But they're wrong.

There is no more powerful force than a parent's love for their children. And patriotic moms and dads are going to demand that their children are no longer fed hateful lies about this country. American parents are not going to accept indoctrination in our schools, cancel culture at our work, or the repression of traditional faith, culture, and values in the public square. Not anymore. [Applause] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much.

We embrace the vision of Martin Luther King, where children are not judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

The left is attempting to destroy that beautiful vision and divide Americans by race in the service of political power. By viewing every issue through the lens of race, they want to impose a new segregation, and we must not allow that to happen.

Critical race theory, the 1619 Project, and the crusade against American history is toxic propaganda, ideological poison that, if not removed, will dissolve the civic bonds that tie us together. It will destroy our country.

That is why I recently banned trainings in this prejudiced ideology from the federal government and banned it in the strongest manner possible. [Applause]

The only path to national unity is through our shared identity as Americans. That is why it is so urgent that we finally restore patriotic education to our schools.

Under our leadership, the National Endowment for the Humanities has awarded a grant to support the development of a pro-American curriculum that celebrates the truth about our nation's great history. [Applause]

We are joined by some of the respected scholars involved in this project, including Professor Wilfred McClay. Wilfred, please. Thank you very much. Welcome. [Applause] Thank you. Dr. Peter Wood of the National Association of Scholars. Dr. Peter. [Applause] Thank you. Thank you. And Ted Rebarber. Thank you, Ted. [Applause] Thank you very much, Ted.

Today, I am also pleased to announce that I will soon sign an Executive Order establishing a national commission to promote patriotic education. It will be called the "1776 Commission." [Applause] Thank you. Thank you. It will encourage our educators to teach our children about the miracle of American history and make plans to honor the 250th anniversary of our founding. Think of that -- 250 years.

Recently, I also signed an executive order to establish the National Garden of American Heroes, a vast outdoor park that will feature the statues of the greatest Americans who have ever lived.

Today, I am announcing a new name for inclusion.

One of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence was a patriot from Delaware. In July of 1776, the Continental Congress was deadlocked during the debate over independence. The delegation from Delaware was divided. Caesar Rodney was called upon to break the tie.

Even though he was suffering from very advanced cancer -- he was deathly ill -- Rodney rode 80 miles through the night, through a severe thunderstorm, from Dover to Philadelphia to cast his vote for independence.

For nearly a century, a statue of one of Delaware's most beloved citizens stood in Rodney Square, right in the heart of Wilmington.

But this past June, Caesar Rodney's statue was ordered removed by the mayor and local politicians as part of a radical purge of America's founding generation.

Today, because of an order I signed, if you demolish a statue without permission, you immediately get 10 years in prison. [Applause] And there have been no statues demolished for the last four months, incredibly, since the time I signed that act.

Joe Biden said nothing as to his home state's history and the fact that it was dismantled and dismembered. And a Founding Father's statue was removed. (this is a lie--it was not dismembered. The Mayor removed it as it was targeted for vandalism)

Today, America will give this Founding Father, this very brave man, who was so horribly treated, the place of honor he deserves. I am announcing that a statue of Caesar Rodney will be added to the National Garden of American Heroes. [Applause]

From Washington to Lincoln, from Jefferson to King, America has been home to some of the most incredible people who have ever lived. With the help of everyone here today, the legacy of 1776 will never be erased. Our heroes will never be forgotten. Our youth will be taught to love America with all of their heart and all of their soul.We will save this cherished inheritance for our children, for their children, and for every generation to come. This is a very important day.

Thank you all once again for being here. Now I will sign the Constitution Day Proclamation. God Bless You. And God Bless America. Thank you very much. [Applause] Thank you.

[The proclamation is signed] [Applause]

Essentially, it seems that the WH is going old school curricula where people understand where they fit in to society as Americans. You know, all us disgusting people whose hands are unworthy of shaking need to know our place. We do need a thorough understanding of our past, but on the surface anyway, it sure sounds like a consideration of other perspectives is going to be silenced. Why don't we study all the perspectives and then discuss it? That seems like a more thorough education to me.

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2 hours ago, Woland said:


It was my thinking that the commission was a ruse to get voter data and that it closed when the states wouldn’t give up the goods.

I have no argument with that.  But I won't be surprised to see some attack ads come out asking why his crack investigation commission didn't find all this fraud he's waving at us now.  

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I saw him walking with the Queen.  Doing the werewolves of London.

Yeah, but to be fair to your memory...you were whacked out on Pina Coladas from Trader Vic's.  

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9 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Bumping this to this page.

This is something that is kinda sorta important especially considering if the election goes to the people and Biden is in office. The payouts are unsustainable, and it's going to come to a crash with Biden taking the blame when it does. Sorry for the crappy graph. It depicts Federal Farm aid over the past decade (courtesy of Politico who got it from the University of Missouri).

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The trade bailout was never appropriated from Congress and went through the USDA in sort of an end run to the Treasury. People get used to having a line item in their budget and this one appears it is going to be very very painful when it rightfully disappears. I'm not a fan of the foreign ownership of domestic food production. I have no expertise in that area, just a general sense of unease about allowing it to grow. It would seem that those companies would be watching this with interest. Feel bad for the farmers though. We didn't handle this well from the get go.

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13 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

I think Cheney was only interested in using our government as a way to line his pockets and those of his Halliburton cronies.   He'd back whatever was going to make him richer and allow him to stay that way.  

He was also interested in expanding presidential power because he felt that reforms enacted after Watergate were too restrictive. He's a big advocate of the imperial presidency (when a Republican is in office, not a Democrat). He's too dirty to withstand the scrutiny of running for president himself so he found a useful idiot in George W. Bush who he could manipulate from his position as the most powerful VP ever. 

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3 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

 Not sure exactly where this should go, but it's all a result of Dotard, so this fits. 

I understand wanting to have a "balanced" slate of possible subjects in our politically divisive world.....but why pick a fucking kid who shot three people?  I'm going to suggest that there are quite a few other possible people to admire on the right side of the spectrum who didn't shoot people.  Of course, this may speak to the utter philosophical brokenness of the modern right wing movement: there are no heroes who do anything FOR people, the only heroes are those who do things TO people, who punish them, exact retribution and suffering, etc.  That's what's worthy of admiration - hurting people.  That's it. 

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14 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Bumping this to this page.

This is something that is kinda sorta important especially considering if the election goes to the people and Biden is in office. The payouts are unsustainable, and it's going to come to a crash with Biden taking the blame when it does. Sorry for the crappy graph. It depicts Federal Farm aid over the past decade (courtesy of Politico who got it from the University of Missouri).

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The trade bailout was never appropriated from Congress and went through the USDA in sort of an end run to the Treasury. People get used to having a line item in their budget and this one appears it is going to be very very painful when it rightfully disappears. I'm not a fan of the foreign ownership of domestic food production. I have no expertise in that area, just a general sense of unease about allowing it to grow. It would seem that those companies would be watching this with interest. Feel bad for the farmers though. We didn't handle this well from the get go.

There's zero chance that either administration would let US farmers fail.  

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4 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

 Not sure exactly where this should go, but it's all a result of Dotard, so this fits. 

For context, assignment had a list of 6 “heroes”, students pick one to write a bio on. One of the protestors Rittenhouse killed was also listed as a modern hero on the assignment, as was George Floyd. The other 3 on the list were Gandhi, Malcom X, and Cesar Chavez. 
 

3 of these 6 are not like the others...

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9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I understand wanting to have a "balanced" slate of possible subjects in our politically divisive world.....but why pick a fucking kid who shot three people?  I'm going to suggest that there are quite a few other possible people to admire on the right side of the spectrum who didn't shoot people.  Of course, this may speak to the utter philosophical brokenness of the modern right wing movement: there are no heroes who do anything FOR people, the only heroes are those who do things TO people, who punish them, exact retribution and suffering, etc.  That's what's worthy of admiration - hurting people.  That's it. 

This is something that has disgusted me about the GOP and GOP-adjacent things for a while:  everything is symbolic.  Rittenhouse symbolizes something.  What, exactly, I'm not sure (2nd Amendment, Anti-Antifa?  I don't fucking know).  But these kind of weak symbols for murky ideas relating to muh freedoms is about all the GOP has had to offer for quite some time.

As you once said, PATRIOT EAGLE FREEDOM GUN.

That shit's thin gruel when we need some real ideas and implementations.

Back on the specific topic, I could see tossing Rittenhouse into some kind of discussion of recent public figures.  What is this kid, where does he fit in?  Does he fit in anywhere? But "modern heroes" ain't it.

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7 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

There's zero chance that either administration would let US farmers fail.  

I would change that to "there is zero chance that either administration would let ALL US farmers fail."

Some are going to fail and are currently failing even with the bailouts. It is important to have a farm economy and security on the American food supply chain. It's one of those sectors where going full free market or full social program is something I wish I understood better. I think a mix is good, but the tariffs really threw it out of whack. My point about Biden, however, still stands. They will blame him and just as before, as the ship starts to right itself and things are looking up, here come the Republicans and people fall for it and vote them in so they can say 'hey look! we saved you!'

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8 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

There's zero chance that either administration would let US farmers fail.  

True enough.  Agricultural spending is a bit of a third rail.  But, I think there is clearly room for fine tuning ag spending that is far short of letting them fail.  

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

True enough.  Agricultural spending is a bit of a third rail.  But, I think there is clearly room for fine tuning ag spending that is far short of letting them fail.  

Yeah.....things like making sure they have foreign markets where they can sell their goods for a nice price.  Just spitballing here......

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32 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I would change that to "there is zero chance that either administration would let ALL US farmers fail."

Some are going to fail and are currently failing even with the bailouts. It is important to have a farm economy and security on the American food supply chain. It's one of those sectors where going full free market or full social program is something I wish I understood better. I think a mix is good, but the tariffs really threw it out of whack. My point about Biden, however, still stands. They will blame him and just as before, as the ship starts to right itself and things are looking up, here come the Republicans and people fall for it and vote them in so they can say 'hey look! we saved you!'

Fair enough, some farms will fail even with subsidies.  Not everyone is cut out for it.  It wont be because Biden will come in and let the support expire though.  They are going to blame Biden for everything, just like Trump currently gets blamed for everything.  Its part of the job, and the bulk of the electorate doesn't understand the leading and lagging nature of shifts in the economy, employment, etc.  

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I thought it was mostly dominated by young people?  I've only seen linked/posted videos from it, but it seems like it's mostly young people and foreigners goofing around on it.  Is there some secret Dick Cheney channel on TikTok I don't know about?  

My father despised Donald Trump and thankfully died ten years before Trump ran for President.  But he also had two sons named Donald and Eric among his children.  Weird.

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I'm reposting this photo today in advance of whatever shitstorm is unleashed in the Friday news dump. This photo of Angela Merkel speaks volumes for my own expression of disgust and consternation I have for this President. I have never had this attitude toward any duly elected President before and I am so looking forward to voting. Women need to vote in large numbers and get nasty about it.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel looks past then-International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde toward U.S. President Donald Trump during a working breakfast at the G7 Summit in Quebec City, Canada, on June 9, 2018. (Leon Neal/Getty Images)

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31 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

After tribunals for all Republicans remotely associated with the worst of their crimes, what I want most is an audit of every public dollar that enriched the Trump family. And not because of how expansive the graft will be shown to have been, but because of how fucking petty so much of it is. I'm sure we'll find a lot of instances of intentional market manipulation to enrich himself, but in terms of actual public funds going to Trump it's going to be hilariously petty shit like this. My favorite story of his entire administration is how, during the government shutdown, they kept three park rangers on duty to keep the clock tower at his DC hotel open. His only concern in the world when he's not watching tv is how to abuse processes to enrich himself, and that's what he was focused on? He even sucks at graft.

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So, with the caveat that this is from FB, but the group it is on represented that it was vetted and discussed by admins.........Ivanka Trump is coming to town (this is public knowledge), and she has made a dinner reservation.....at Uchi.

Now, that's a tough spot for a restaurant to be in -- do you accept the request, and alienate people, or deny it, and alienate people?  I tend to not demonize a restaurant because they accept a reservation and say "we feed people, and that means all people."  Of course, I also wouldn't fault them if they also said "but not evil fucking nazis like her."

But here's the punchline -- she makes the reservation under a fake name (common), and the last name she chooses.....is hispanic.

It's a fucking joke to them.  It's like fucking Goebbels making a dinner reservation under the name of Moishe Horowitz.  Fuck these evil fucks.

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13 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I'm reposting this photo today in advance of whatever shitstorm is unleashed in the Friday news dump. This photo of Angela Merkel speaks volumes for my own expression of disgust and consternation I have for this President. I have never had this attitude toward any duly elected President before and I am so looking forward to voting. Women need to vote in large numbers and get nasty about it.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel looks past then-International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde toward U.S. President Donald Trump during a working breakfast at the G7 Summit in Quebec City, Canada, on June 9, 2018. (Leon Neal/Getty Images)

i wish yall (women) would stop validating his rhetoric by trying to adopt it. nobody likes nasty anything. 

no offense meant, of course, it just drives me crazy that women take that label and run with it. nobody should be nasty about anything.

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9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

So, with the caveat that this is from FB, but the group it is on represented that it was vetted and discussed by admins.........Ivanka Trump is coming to town (this is public knowledge), and she has made a dinner reservation.....at Uchi.

Now, that's a tough spot for a restaurant to be in -- do you accept the request, and alienate people, or deny it, and alienate people?  I tend to not demonize a restaurant because they accept a reservation and say "we feed people, and that means all people."  Of course, I also wouldn't fault them if they also said "but not evil fucking nazis like her."

But here's the punchline -- she makes the reservation under a fake name (common), and the last name she chooses.....is hispanic.

It's a fucking joke to them.  It's like fucking Goebbels making a dinner reservation under the name of Moishe Horowitz.  Fuck these evil fucks.

Ain't never been any real person named Ivanka Gomez I can't guarantee you that. 

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