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54 minutes ago, bolverk said:

You really do like to spread misinformation, don't you. That's only one of multiple stories they have on the coronovirus. It's splashed all over their website. That said, it's a valid concern if you'd actually bother to read the story and the numerous accounts being reported. 

 

 

Fair enough.  They're live updates is pretty good, but it's tucked away, am I'm not sure if that is what you mean.  I didn't see stories splashed all over their page.  There is one about how it may hurt Nissan's numbers, and one about how China has changed how they are reporting numbers.  That is all I saw.

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11 hours ago, RayDog said:

I have been going back and forth on whether I would want a girl to stay with me during quarantine, so I can still get laid regularly. We would go though my food and water supplies twice as fast but if I run out of meat and things get really desperate... 

Are you John McAfee?

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9 minutes ago, Casual Encounter said:

I’m guessing it’s been here for a while , outside of the reported cases, and we don’t even realize it yet. I mean, how quick are many doctors to misdiagnose something based on common symptoms?

Yes - because they aren’t testing unless you’ve been to China. So set the clock on US cases at. . ?

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18 minutes ago, F250 said:

Yesterday, I was asked by one of our sales executives if I could fly out to San Francisco next week for the RSA conference in order to meet with some customers.

 

My response.

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You're killing our GDP, 250.

 

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reports are you can get it twice. Don't know about more since it seems your heart attacks you. 


Yeah. There was at least one report that you could get it twice. But there wasn’t much clarity on it. Did they really get it twice? Or did they have a false negative test when they actually were still sick? Was it the same strain? Are there multiple strains? And if that person truly did get the same strain twice, was it an anomaly or are most people susceptible to repeat infection? In short, as far as we know, we don’t know.
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12 hours ago, RayDog said:

I have been going back and forth on whether I would want a girl to stay with me during quarantine, so I can still get laid regularly. We would go though my food and water supplies twice as fast but if I run out of meat and things get really desperate... 

If I'm going to die for a word......

 

My word is poontang.

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Airlines feeling the pinch 

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The coronavirus outbreak is expected to cost the world’s airlines a combined $29.3 billion in revenue this year, the global airline industry body has warned. The International Air Transport Association said air travel demand is set to decline for the first time since 2009. Carriers around the world have been forced to reduce or suspend flights as a result of the virus. The IATA expects airlines in the Asia Pacific region to take a combined $27.8 billion revenue hit, and $1.5 billion for those outside Asia.

 

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9 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Why the fuck cant u just meet with clients online? Its 2020.. what kinda company is wasting money on someone traveling 1000 miles when Facetime will do just fine?

It makes the client feel special. It's a pain in the ass if you are on the hosting side but a lot of fun if you are a client.

Anyways, I have no interest in hanging out at a Silicon Valley sausage festival with a bunch of nerds only to end up with the Chinese bat herpes.

 

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2 hours ago, Casual Encounter said:

I’m guessing it’s been here for a while , outside of the reported cases, and we don’t even realize it yet. I mean, how quick are many doctors to misdiagnose something based on common symptoms?

Supposedly, some states have legal provisions about keeping the info secret.   Don’t know how that jives with the fact that in theory, CDC publishes the info, but Florida (of. Ourse) keeps getting tossed around as one.   Sounds more conspiracy theory than anything, but could see some states trying to keep a lid on things.  

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22 minutes ago, DaysOff said:
2 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:
Why the fuck cant u just meet with clients online? Its 2020.. what kinda company is wasting money on someone traveling 1000 miles when Facetime will do just fine?

Shut the fuck up

Lulz. Because traveling is fun when done right. I frikin hate FaceTime. 

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1 minute ago, gyroprotagonist said:

anyone really believe Russia only has 2 cases?

Also, I feel we are being bombarded with offers for cruises on TV and online.  No one in their right mind would get on cruise ship right now. 

My BIL and his wife are going on a cruise in March. He texted my wife and was excited because they prices were so cheap. I asked my wife if he knew about the virus. He did not. I guess he is one of those low information voters we hear about. 

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43 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Supposedly, some states have legal provisions about keeping the info secret.   Don’t know how that jives with the fact that in theory, CDC publishes the info, but Florida (of. Ourse) keeps getting tossed around as one.   Sounds more conspiracy theory than anything, but could see some states trying to keep a lid on things.  

I think you missed my point. I have no doubt any U.S. medical professional, who knew or suspected a patient had the virus, would report it. I’m referring to the massive amount of people who traveled or came in contact with those who did prior to this being fully understood and who may have had mild symptoms which led to a diagnosis without any sort of testing.

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51 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Supposedly, some states have legal provisions about keeping the info secret.   Don’t know how that jives with the fact that in theory, CDC publishes the info, but Florida (of. Ourse) keeps getting tossed around as one.   Sounds more conspiracy theory than anything, but could see some states trying to keep a lid on things.  

I posted about Florida withholding disclosures ...

 

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-ne-coronavirus-privacy-20200207-zcyt7b7y7vg6lcs4js5ezjha3a-story.html

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Florida health officials say state law prevents them from telling the public about suspected cases of coronavirus, yet the state regularly revealed that information during the Zika crisis three years ago.

The state put out daily updates about the Zika virus, informing the public of suspected as well as confirmed cases. The law was the same then.

U.S. Sen. Rick Scott, who was Florida’s governor at the time, said Florida should be as transparent now with coronavirus as it was with Zika. Scott is urging the same transparency for federal officials.

Daniel Dawes, a lawyer and professor of complex health systems at Nova Southeastern University, said he too would like to see more openness with the coronavirus, which originated in China and now has spread to 28 countries.

“I understand [Florida health officials] not wanting to get folks too concerned or scared, but as a citizen, I want to know if there are pending cases out there,” Dawes said. “If there are more pending cases in one part of the state than the other, I want to know that. If a test doesn’t lead to positive, I want to know that, too. I think Florida owes it to its citizens to be open with information so they can protect themselves.”

States are divided on how much information to share with the public about the rapidly spreading coronavirus, now with 28,000 confirmed cases in China and 12 in the U.S.

While authorities in California, Illinois and New York regularly disclose information on suspected as well as confirmed cases, officials in other large states — including Florida — have opted to withhold information on suspected cases until they are confirmed.

“We are unable to comment on potential coronavirus cases because of a state statute that prohibits us from doing so,” said Alberto Moscoso, communications director for the Florida Department of Health.

But three health lawyers, asked by the South Florida Sun Sentinel to review the law, said the state can release that information — if it chooses to. The statute says information from disease reports is exempt from public records laws and should be made public only when necessary to protect public health “due to the highly infectious nature of the disease.”

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“It’s a judgment call whether or not it’s necessary to the public health to release that information,” said Timothy Monaghan, a health care attorney with Shutts & Bowen in West Palm Beach. “Public officials may argue we are trying to avoid panic, but I think most people would say we need to know if it’s here in Florida so we can take precautions.”

Joey Zumpano, founder and managing shareholder of Zumpano Patricios, a law firm that represents large health systems, agrees that holding back information from the public is a choice the state is making.

“Clearly what the statutory framework is intending to achieve is a balance between patient privacy and public health,” Zumpano said. “The statute leaves the judgment to the state. But the status of a highly contagious public health threat may be fundamental to any public health efforts centered on prevention."

Tests are pending on 72 possible cases of coronavirus nationwide. The Sun Sentinel reported a patient who arrived in the emergency room of Memorial Hospital on Friday had been tested, though officials would not discuss the case and have emphasized that no cases of coronovirus in Florida have been confirmed.

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“There are no confirmed cases of coronavirus in Florida,” state Surgeon General Dr. Scott Rivkees said in a written statement. "However, if any were to arise, we are prepared to contain this new infection, help any individuals sickened by the virus and keep Florida safe.”

In the U.S., the 12 cases of coronavirus are in Arizona, California, Illinois, Massachusetts, Washington and Wisconsin.

Moscoso said if and when there is a confirmed case in Florida, the state will “make the information available as quickly as possible.”

“The Department is coordinating closely with our local partners to investigate, confirm, contain and report any suspected cases, should they occur,” he said. “The current guidance from the CDC is for the general American public, the immediate health risk from coronavirus is considered low at this time.”

Florida’s approach to releasing information on coronavirus differs from how health officials handled the 2016-17 Zika virus outbreak. With Zika, the Florida Department of Health reported positive and negative samples and pending results by county. It also put out daily updates that included maps of confirmed cases.

Scott said Florida and the federal government should be as transparent now.

“I encourage you to use the lessons we learned from Florida’s handling of the Zika virus by distributing as much information about the virus as possible to keep Americans and local officials informed,” Scott wrote in a Feb. 5 letter to President Donald Trump.

 

 

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2 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

Not gonna lie, just made my first survival shopping run through HEB. $100 worth of canned goods is a lot of fucking cans. 

That reminds me....I need to swing by a gas station and fill up a couple of trashcans full of gas. 

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Society is breaking down.  

Instead Volok, a 26-year-old Chinese-language student, and her fellow evacuees found their buses being pelted with projectiles by protesters on Thursday as they approached the sanatorium where they have started a mandatory two-week quarantine.

“We heard the window smash and everyone fell down into the aisle,” she told Reuters by phone.

“No country has met its citizens like that,” she said. “We were bombarded, as enemies of the people, and this is very unpleasant. ... We have not done anything wrong to anyone.”

Despite repeated reassurances from the government that there was no danger, the protesters feared being infected by the virus. Ukraine has no confirmed coronavirus cases and the government says all evacuees were screened before being allowed to board their flight home.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-ukraine-evacuee/enemies-of-the-people-coronavirus-evacuees-endure-hostile-return-to-ukraine-idUSKBN20F2SA

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