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Just an absolute deluge of news: 

MGM Resorts International said it is temporarily suspending operations at its Las Vegas properties until further notice. The move will go into effect on March 17. Casino operations will close a day earlier, followed by hotel operations, according to the company. 
“Despite our commitment to dedicating additional resources for cleaning and promoting good health, while making difficult decisions to close certain aspects of our operations, it is now apparent that this is a public health crisis that requires major collective action if we are to slow its progression,” Jim Murren, chairman and CEO at MGM Resorts, said in a statement.

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I think it would be more effective to regulate citizens over regulating business.   It seems to me it would be the smarter play from a legal/risk perspective.  I'm for flattening the curve but i'm unsettled at local level political hacks thinking they have the authority to comandeer free enterprise.   Lead your citizens.  

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3 minutes ago, Penelope said:

Yes

I feel your pain. I have a soft spot in my heart for fighting government overreach. Unfortunately, the fight usually costs more in attorney fees and time than what you recover when you win.

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26 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

The wife & I are going to just stay at home most of the time no social interaction at all for two months. We’ll go to CVS to get our regular prescription meds via curbside service or drive through. Our geezer vitamin supplements contain 200% daily zinc requirements and we have a few dozen Airborne tablets. Should we try to get some regular zinc tablets & more of the Airborne to take daily?

I am seriously getting worried.

edited to add, I do have a nebulizer with some leftover meds for the bronchial infection I had last year (not pneumonia). Would it be useful at all ?

When I was in Europe playing ball our team docs recommended us to juice half a lemon and pour it into our water bottle once a day for immunity support and help with inflammation. Worked great and have been doing that fairly regularly for almost 20 years now

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1 minute ago, Parliament said:

I bailed on a Vegas trip with some customers.  We were slated to fly there on Thursday.  I left them the option to go without me.  Will be interesting to see if they do.

I remember how clear the skies were at sunset on 9/12.  Just one day without commercial airliners.  We shut down all civilian air travel for 48 hours in 2001.  We need to do it for 14 days in 2020.

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3 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

I remember how clear the skies were at sunset on 9/12.  Just one day without commercial airliners.  We shut down all civilian air travel for 48 hours in 2001.  We need to do it for 14 days in 2020.

From the United memo released to employees it definitely seems they are preparing for such a scenario:

“We are working night and day on support and ideas to keep as much pay as we possibly can flowing to you -- even if gets worse from here and demand temporarily plummets to zero.“

 

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47 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

The wife & I are going to just stay at home most of the time no social interaction at all for two months. We’ll go to CVS to get our regular prescription meds via curbside service or drive through. Our geezer vitamin supplements contain 200% daily zinc requirements and we have a few dozen Airborne tablets. Should we try to get some regular zinc tablets & more of the Airborne to take daily?

I am seriously getting worried.

edited to add, I do have a nebulizer with some leftover meds for the bronchial infection I had last year (not pneumonia). Would it be useful at all ?

Armybrat, no one knows how this will all play out but I hope your worry is for others and not for yourself because this shitty virus has nothing on you my man.  Your plan to limit social interaction is the best thing you can do.       

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2 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Someone needs to lean down and tell him that trucking capacity isn't the problem here.

Also tell him and the other leaders to just shut the fuck up about hoarding.    We buy several weeks of supplies so that we don’t have to go out to the stores every 5-6 days or every weekend.   Because, you know, if we make fewer trips in public, that’s fewer avenues of infection.  

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1 hour ago, HOOKEM4 said:

I told my boss I was working from home for the foreseeable future. I can do my job, arguable more efficiently, from home. He was not happy and made some cryptic comments. I am in a very advantageous position and I am not worried about losing my job. Even if I do, my family is fine to weather whatever storm comes. I am more pissed they have clearly been influenced by the "it's just the flu' crowd and are unwilling to look at the sobering truths. We have several employees that I would guess contracting the covid virus is essentially a death sentence but the show must go on!. Fml.

We are on day 2 of total lockdown and the kids are already pissed they are short on a few random things they dont need. This will be fun.

I should do this as well.

We had two asshole contractors who came in with the flu last week, since they wouldn't get paid if they had a sick day.

Took out two of our FTEs, presumably, one of whom is already immunocompromised.

 

We have a lot of contractors on site right now.

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Also tell him and the other leaders to just shut the fuck up about hoarding.    We buy several weeks of supplies so that we don’t have to go out to the stores every 5-6 days or every weekend.   Because, you know, if we make fewer trips in public, that’s fewer avenues of infection.  

Yeah, this.  TPTB can pound sand.  They won't lock down the millenials and boomers, so when those in the middle with economic responsibilities try to prep for the self-quarantine they lack the balls to enforce for the greater good, i give zero fucks about having been working for more than a month to be ready for now.

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6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Also tell him and the other leaders to just shut the fuck up about hoarding.    We buy several weeks of supplies so that we don’t have to go out to the stores every 5-6 days or every weekend.   Because, you know, if we make fewer trips in public, that’s fewer avenues of infection.  

Or maybe they wouldn't hoard if the political leaders didn't lead them to panic buying.  How about that?

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Looking for bright spots like all of us. Spending time with my kids, one of whom is in college, has and will continue to be great. I worked too much when they were younger and it’s nice to be able to spend some serious quality time with them. 

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9 minutes ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

You will never stop people with soft penises from eating exotic animals in hopes of huge, erect cocks.

Some day science will come up with a cheap, safe and effective solution for soft cock syndrome, but until then rhino horn and shark fin will have to do.

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Our grandfathers were called to go to fucking war.  You are being asked to sit on your fucking couch and digest a constant stream of netflix while we figure out a vax of antibody to bridge this shit in near term. Suck it up.
 


Or our dads.
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8 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Or maybe they wouldn't hoard if the political leaders didn't lead them to panic buying.  How about that?

I hate politicians as much as anyone but from I can tell the extent of that panic buying was a social media construct. Just like the fake gasoline shortage that hit Texas after the recent Houston hurricane. Some dumb fucks start crowing on social media about how this shortage is going to happen so more dumb fucks go out and start hoarding. That leads the rest of us to have to go buy that item if we plan on needing it within the next month. Boom, social media manufactured shortage. 

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https://mashable.com/article/people-bars-coronavirus-social-distancing/

"I gave 4 rides tonight, all of them going to bars or clubs. After the 4th, I logged off, pulled into a parking lot, and sobbed. No one is quarantining. No one is listening. They don't know it yet, but they are killing each other. The sense of hopelessness is overwhelming."

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8 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Or maybe they wouldn't hoard if the political leaders didn't lead them to panic buying.  

That would have required a very open and competent testing policy from January 22nd or so, when we had the first case in the US.    It would have required leaders to treat the topic with gravitas.   Instead, we had to wait until over a month later, and they are wheeling corpses out of an assisted living facility, to understand that it’s here, and that the olds better pucker up.

So instead of 6 weeks of preparation, perhaps slowing it down dramatically, shit starts getting slung at the wall over the past two weeks.  

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Our grandfathers were called to go to fucking war.  You are being asked to sit on your fucking couch and digest a constant stream of netflix while we figure out a vax of antibody to bridge this shit in near term. Suck it up.
 
Was thinking about this exact thing earlier. So pathetic how easy of an ask this is and so many can't even manage to do it.
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1 minute ago, Junior Miller said:

I hate politicians as much as anyone but from I can tell the extent of that panic buying was a social media construct. Just like the fake gasoline shortage that hit Texas after the recent Houston hurricane. Some dumb fucks start crowing on social media about how this shortage is going to happen so more dumb fucks go out and start hoarding. That leads the rest of us to have to go buy that item if we plan on needing it within the next month. Boom, social media manufactured shortage. 

Plenty of us saw back in February where this was headed, and so we stocked up, so that we could help cut down our social interactions, to help with the spread.  

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

That would have required a very open and competent testing policy from January 22nd or so, when we had the first case in the US.    It would have required leaders to treat the topic with gravitas.   Instead, we had to wait until over a month later, and they are wheeling corpses out of an assisted living facility, to understand that it’s here, and that the olds better pucker up.

So instead of 6 weeks of preparation, perhaps slowing it down dramatically, shit starts getting slung at the wall over the past two weeks.  

It was just a hoax back then. 

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5 minutes ago, ztejas said:

If anyone needs some sunshine, this is pretty magical. Ferries shut down in Italy have resulted in curious dolphins reemerging near cities. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichelaMeloni1/status/1238559214441762819

 

i've posted my own personal dolphin story before on the surl.

they are extremely smart.  i wish we had spent more resources on teaching them language.

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2 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

https://mashable.com/article/people-bars-coronavirus-social-distancing/

"I gave 4 rides tonight, all of them going to bars or clubs. After the 4th, I logged off, pulled into a parking lot, and sobbed. No one is quarantining. No one is listening. They don't know it yet, but they are killing each other. The sense of hopelessness is overwhelming."

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3 minutes ago, Junior Miller said:

I hate politicians as much as anyone but from I can tell the extent of that panic buying was a social media construct. Just like the fake gasoline shortage that hit Texas after the recent Houston hurricane. Some dumb fucks start crowing on social media about how this shortage is going to happen so more dumb fucks go out and start hoarding. That leads the rest of us to have to go buy that item if we plan on needing it within the next month. Boom, social media manufactured shortage. 

Yes, you are correct.  And if the politicians had provided the leadership that would have forestalled the social media constructs, those of us that saw all of it coming in advance wouldn't have had to prep.

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27 minutes ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

You will never stop people with soft penises from eating exotic animals in hopes of huge, erect cocks.

They should be content with what they have.  I mean, yeah, I’m sure it sucks for those with tiny dicks, and I’m talking small - less than 6 inches, but just find one of RayDog’s ex-girlfriends If they want to feel big.  

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1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i've posted my own personal dolphin story before on the surl.

they are extremely smart.  i wish we had spent more resources on teaching them language.

Dolphins saved my grandpa’s life after his ship went down in the Pacific.  The surrounded the survivors and kept the sharks at bay.

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1 minute ago, Okie State said:
46 minutes ago, Anastasis said:
Our grandfathers were called to go to fucking war.  You are being asked to sit on your fucking couch and digest a constant stream of netflix while we figure out a vax of antibody to bridge this shit in near term. Suck it up.
 

Was thinking about this exact thing earlier. So pathetic how easy of an ask this is and so many can't even manage to do it.

In WW2 we had the news of Japan smoking Hawaii to stoke the motivation. Unfortunately with a pandemic you don't get the visceral imagery and motivating circumstances until it's way too late to come to action. It's why you need actual good leadership to forecast these things and act accordingly. 

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4 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i've posted my own personal dolphin story before on the surl.

they are extremely smart.  i wish we had spent more resources on teaching them language.

They're probably laughing their asses off at us right now. 

"This is what you get for poisoning our oceans, assholes"

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53 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Is it that fucking hard to build a respirator. Seems like a pneumatic pump some control valves and very simple PLC. Someone school me on this. Sure it would not be perfect but better than nothing. 

Pretty sure I saw that in an episode of M*A*S*H*.

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