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14 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Here's how this is going to go down.

Over the next few weeks one or two of these antivirals are going to prove to be effective enough to keep the death mostly limited to the very elderly and very unhealthy, which will allow us to open the economy back up (perhaps with some distancing measures still in place). We'll make it to a vaccine early next year. A bunch of morons will claim that they were right about it being "no big deal, just another flu" the whole time, despite the fact that the only reason we mostly made it through it was because the professionals didn't listen to the morons, and shut everything down for two months. By middle of next year everything will be fully back to normal, and we will have forgotten all of the lessons we learned. China will still be eating fucking bats and spiders and whatever other bullshit they eat. We as a country will still refuse to stock up on hospital equipment and gear that we'll need if this happens again because it would require we buy one less fighter jet. People will still profit-take every ounce of blood out of their businesses so that a one-week interruption in revenue requires bailouts, and we'll derp along until the next crisis hits with a bunch of toilet paper in our attics.

Way she goes.

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12 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Thanks JBJ.  What are you currently using for the exposed -> death lag time?

 

I just have it tied to reporting which is at 10 days.  Deaths have been hard to project (just look at the chart).  I tried to make the thing more realistic at one point but could never get the hindcast to be reasonable.  My current assumption to work from is that the Oregon nursing home messed up the early data, and I'm just starting to get good numbers.

Exposure to death for the Flu is supposedly around 26 days.  I'm going to take that as a starting point.

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2 hours ago, Tailgate said:

 

This is panic porn at its finest.  Comparing the US to other countries is becoming more and more unhelpful because I don’t remotely trust the numbers coming in from other countries.  I think they are being severely underreported for different reasons.  At least China’s bullshit numbers aren’t on there.  I think the best gauge is comparing change in US numbers from day to day.  

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28 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Looks like Spain’s starting to curve.. 5085 reported today. Down 1800 from the day before 21623d5910baba9147ea82b8f80274c7.jpg

I have a friend in Spain we're in contact with.  She says they already have draconian stay at home rules -- one of her friends was fined 600 euro for an non-emergency trip to the grocery store.  This weekend they said they are making the rules even more strict.

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2 minutes ago, stork642 said:

This is panic porn at its finest.  Comparing the US to other countries is becoming more and more unhelpful because I don’t remotely trust the numbers coming in from other countries.  I think they are being severely underreported for different reasons.  At least China’s bullshit numbers aren’t on there.  I think the best gauge is comparing change in US numbers from day to day.  

you can put a degree of confidence on most western countries, imo.  ignore china but look at the euro countries and say +/- 10% on them.

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4 minutes ago, stork642 said:

This is panic porn at its finest.  Comparing the US to other countries is becoming more and more unhelpful because I don’t remotely trust the numbers coming in from other countries.  I think they are being severely underreported for different reasons.  At least China’s bullshit numbers aren’t on there.  I think the best gauge is comparing change in US numbers from day to day.  

Everyone’s numbers are under reported.  

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No CR but pathetic that Texas has the 3rd lowest testing percentage in the country. Only ahead of SC and OK
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It’s difficult to say if Texas is being irresponsible, or if the testing rate is low because we have fewer potential cases per capita right now because we are behind other states in penetration of the virus.
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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

We explored this idea a week or so back. And then my wife said “and when I have to use the bathroom?” And that ended that. 

Gatorade bottle.

I miss the Town & Country Drive-In in Denton.  Big part of my youth.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

GreenspointTexas and achooloco are now turning their turrets towards the tried and true “your best is not good enough!” premise in order to decry the need for a global martial law because we need the police and military to protect us from ourselves. 

Meanwhile, I drove from my house in Galveston to my house in Houston today in 50 minutes. I took the turn into the 610 loop from I-45 at 65 mph. I felt like the fucking omega man. The level of actual variables that have been removed, and tolerated, across this country over the last 3+ weeks is enormous and the best we’re actually going to allow and sustain for any extended period. 

I would like to kick “Josh Marshall” in the fucking nuts and then hack a cough all of his fucking face for posting that shit. Overly dramatic and long, and fucking obvious unless basic math is hard. This is the kind of shit that makes social media hysterical poison. 

How have you not leveraged yourself, with your status as Treated Patient Zero, into some sort of multimedia celebrity fortune as the heir apparent to Kevin Trudeau? You and 2300 Nueces should be doing infomercials pimping books and supplements talking about the “treatments ‘they’ don’t want you to know about”. The blueprint already exists, sir. 

Seriously, I am encouraged by this one an continue to hold out hope that this could be a silver bullet for many if they start using it as a prophylactic. 

go fuck yourself. i was just commenting on what i saw on the streets you fucking liar.

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I have a friend in Spain we're in contact with.  She says they already have draconian stay at home rules -- one of her friends was fined 600 euro for an non-emergency trip to the grocery store.  This weekend they said they are making the rules even more strict.

How long have they been in draconian? These cases would reflect most likely up to 7+ days ago
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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

GreenspointTexas and achooloco are now turning their turrets towards the tried and true “your best is not good enough!” premise in order to decry the need for a global martial law because we need the police and military to protect us from ourselves. 

Some people won't be happy until we're all in individual 8 by 10 cells

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15 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

 


It’s difficult to say if Texas is being irresponsible, or if the testing rate is low because we have fewer potential cases per capita right now because we are behind other states in penetration of the virus.

 

I believe that Harris County is limited to testing 250 per day from the public testing sites. The bottleneck might be the center processing the samples not necessary test kits or personnel. 

Several of the neighboring counties also direct their citizens to reach out to Harris County for testing. So with ~7m in the Greater Houston area, testing 250 is not much greater than testing 0.  Physicians are still resigned to telling patients to just assume they have coronavirus.

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This is panic porn at its finest.  Comparing the US to other countries is becoming more and more unhelpful because I don’t remotely trust the numbers coming in from other countries.  I think they are being severely underreported for different reasons.  At least China’s bullshit numbers aren’t on there.  I think the best gauge is comparing change in US numbers from day to day.  


I mean, if any western country's numbers are outright false, it's the US. Testing was intentionally avoided here.

No comparison between countries is apples to apples, but to not "remotely trust the numbers coming in from other countries," with the implication that American data is somehow better, is an astonishing abdication of facts on the ground.
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1 hour ago, Hawndoh said:

Lots of people talking about math instruction. I'm a math teacher at the middle school level, and there is a lot of variation in what is being missed and how critical it is depending on grade level.

For instance I teach 7th grade, and the most critical topics to learn in 7th grade for future classes were all finished before the shutdowns. The material I have left to teach online is stuff that is building on last year and gets reinforced next year anyway, so it isn't super critical that every little detail gets right at this moment.

We've already started putting plans in place to identify the most critical stuff to try and teach for the rest of the year and it will get worked into next year's curriculum for each grade level up.

I really don't think it will be too big of a deal in the long run. Yes we are missed 9 weeks of instruction, but at least for middle school nearly 3 of those weeks were going to be State testing and district semester exams, and review for all of that testing. We are really transitioning about 6 weeks of new material into online instruction.

Is it not possible to teach math as a separate "group" that's not grade-related?  if you are ready for trig, you do trig.  if you are ready for calc, you do calc, irrespective of what grade you are in.  would that not achieve better results?  and i know from personal (family) experience that there are some kids who just will *NEVER* get math, period, it's useless and they are dead weight on kids progressing on a "normal" track.

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9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I believe that Harris County is limited to testing 250 per day from the public testing sites. The bottleneck might be the center processing the samples not necessary test kits or personnel. 

Yep, I read one of the epidemiologist predict that we're going to see a "nationwide flattening" in the next 7 days or so but it's going to solely be a result of our inability to keep up with testing as cases continue to rise (i.e., more cases than ability to test).  He also predicted it will be widely celebrated that 'flattening' is working without any appreciation for the nuance that testing has to continue to increase at the pace of the spread for meaningful data.

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4 minutes ago, stone oak said:

Just found out guy at my work (I work in a very small office) is home sick today with high fever and dry cough. No mention of them sending us home. 

RIP to me.

Nice knowing ya.  At least we'll always have your avatar to keep our spirits up.

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Medtronic publishes specs for ventilator, enables other companies to build

Medtronic Shares Ventilation Design Specifications to Accelerate Efforts to Increase Global Ventilator Production

DUBLIN, March 30, 2020 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) --  Medtronic plc (MDT), the global leader in medical technology, today announced it is publicly sharing the design specifications for the Puritan Bennett™ 560 (PB 560) to enable participants across industries to evaluate options for rapid ventilator manufacturing to help doctors and patients dealing with COVID-19. This decision is consistent with the recent FDA Guidance and in accordance with the public health and medical response of governmental agencies globally.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/medtronic-shares-ventilation-design-specifications-121510826.html

specs here:  https://www.medtronic.com/us-en/e/open-files.html

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58 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Here's how this is going to go down.

Over the next few weeks one or two of these antivirals are going to prove to be effective enough to keep the death mostly limited to the very elderly and very unhealthy, which will allow us to open the economy back up (perhaps with some distancing measures still in place). We'll make it to a vaccine early next year. A bunch of morons will claim that they were right about it being "no big deal, just another flu" the whole time, despite the fact that the only reason we mostly made it through it was because the professionals didn't listen to the morons, and shut everything down for two months. By middle of next year everything will be fully back to normal, and we will have forgotten all of the lessons we learned. China will still be eating fucking bats and spiders and whatever other bullshit they eat. We as a country will still refuse to stock up on hospital equipment and gear that we'll need if this happens again because it would require we buy one less fighter jet. People will still profit-take every ounce of blood out of their businesses so that a one-week interruption in revenue requires bailouts, and we'll derp along until the next crisis hits with a bunch of toilet paper in our attics.

Way she goes.

 

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10 minutes ago, stone oak said:

Just found out guy at my work (I work in a very small office) is home sick today with high fever and dry cough. No mention of them sending us home. 

RIP to me.

Which hospital does your lady friend work at (if you don't mind me asking)?

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