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19 minutes ago, RPM said:
BREAKING NEWS: Popeyes had suspended delivery fees for orders through their app.
We now return you to regularly scheduled hyperbole.

So does the delivery driver fight me?

Don't tip and he will be your huckleberry.

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1 minute ago, Bama Chick said:

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I want so bad to say “fuck em”.

I do say fuck em.  Right in the ass.  If they get a bail out, they get it on NDak credit card terms.  21% APR. Billion dollar late fees.  

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America under Trump would never!



Interesting that it's just companies. Though individual workers are much better protected in France than they are here.

In general I think this is a good idea. We need to just freeze the financial system for a few months, for the sake of both small businesses and workers.
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3 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

CNN:

'Surgeon General:  We could be Italy but there's every hope we could also be South Korea'   CNN lady:  But we must remember we do not have an authoritarian regime.  

LOL, Wut?

I guess Italy was authoritarian a few short decades ago?

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woah. Harris county shuts down all bars and indoor restaurant services. 
 
much needed, but still a shock 
Good thing there's a drive thru daiquiri place down the street. Not an Eskimo Hut either.

Wait, this whole thing is being orchestrated by Kevin Morgan to shut down the competition! Holy shit!
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This is exactly what I thought the governor of WV would be in my mind.
I do say fuck em.  Right in the ass.  If they get a bail out, they get it on NDak credit card terms.  21% APR. Billion dollar late fees.  
Yeah, this. Fuck a bailout, they barely pay taxes. They can get a loan.

We should get commensurate ownership stakes in any company we give bailout money to.
Or just this. $50 billion in bailout money is equal to a $50 billion stock purchase for the state.
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7 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

This is exactly what I thought the governor of WV would be in my mind.
Yeah, this. Fuck a bailout, they barely pay taxes. They can get a loan.

Or just this. $50 billion in bailout money is equal to a $50 billion stock purchase for the state.

Just ring up Elizabeth Warren and Katie Porter and have them write up the terms. No corporation would ask for a bailout ever again.

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22 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

We should get commensurate ownership stakes in any company we give bailout money to.

How about conditions such as reasonable  seating distances, no more charges for stupid shit like seat assignments and carry on baggage, and general promise of humane treatment in exchange for keeping them alive with our tax money

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5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

That's been our consensus thus far.  It depends on her support network.  If everyone else leaves, she'd be all alone.

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Dear Daddy.....did you say you'd get me in March or April?  The guys on the Hockey team are asking....

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“He was never interested in things that might happen. He’s totally focused on the stock market, the economy and always bashing his predecessor and giving him no credit,” the person said. “The possibility things were things he didn’t spend much time on or show much interest in.”

“Even though we would put time on the schedule for things like that, if they happened at all, they would be very, very brief,” the former official continued. “To get the president to be focused on something like this would be quite hard.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pandemic-132797

 

 

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It's all Kushner's fault now:

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/trump-awakens-to-the-covid-19-danger

 

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Last Thursday, as the stock market was on the way to losing nearly 2,400 points—its biggest single-day plunge since the 1987 Black Monday crash—Donald Trump was worrying about the fate of the football season. NFL players aren’t scheduled to report to training camp for months, but according to a source, Trump feared that the league might preemptively announce it was following the NBA and NHL and suspend or delay operations due to the coronavirus. So Trump called NFL owners to see if any action was on the horizon. “Trump begged them not to cancel the season,” a source briefed on the call said.

 

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Trump’s concern for the NFL’s well-being was a stark reversal given that he spent the first two years of his presidency attacking the league and its kneeling players. It reflected Trump’s magical thinking that he could manage the coronavirus pandemic by convincing people life would remain normal and sports would be played. (Last week, Trump also spoke with Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White and advised him not to cancel UFC events.) “Trump thinks this is a media problem,” a Republican close to the White House told me. Treating COVID-19 as a public-relations crisis put Trump at odds with the medical community, including the White House’s chief coronavirus adviser, Dr. Anthony Fauci. During an interview on Meet the Press this weekend, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases urged the United States to move toward a national lockdown similar to the actions taken by Italy and Spain. “I think we should really be overly aggressive and get criticized for overreacting,” Fauci said.

 

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With the markets in free fall despite emergency action by the Fed over the weekend, Trump is waking up to the reality that’s been clear to everyone: Coronavirus poses a once-in-a-hundred-years threat to the country. “In the last 48 hours he has understood the magnitude of what’s going on,” a former West Wing official told me. As Trump processes the stakes facing the country—and his presidency—he’s also lashing out at advisers, whom he blames for the White House’s inept and flat-footed response. Sources say a principal target of his anger is Jared Kushner. “I have never heard so many people inside the White House openly discussed how pissed Trump is at Jared,” the former West Wing official said.

 

 

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Sources told me Trump is regretting that Kushner swooped into the coronavirus response last week. Kushner, according to sources, encouraged Trump to treat the emergency as a P.R. problem when Fauci and others were calling for aggressive action. “This was Jared saying the world needs me to solve another problem,” a former White House official said. One source briefed on the internal conversations told me that Kushner advised Trump not to call a national emergency during his Oval Office address on March 11 because “it would tank the markets.” The markets cratered anyway, and Trump announced the national emergency on Friday. “They had to clean that up on Friday,” another former West Wing official said. Trump was also said to be angry that Kushner oversold Google’s coronavirus testing website when in fact the tech giant had a fledgling effort. Trump got slammed in the press for promoting the phantom Google product. “Jared told Trump that Google was doing an entire website that would be up in 72 hours and had 1,100 people working on it 24/7. That’s just a lie,” the source briefed on the internal conversations told me.

Reached for comment, a White House official said: “This is just another false story focused on rumors about palace intrigue instead of the actual aggressive measures President Trump has implemented to keep the American people safe and healthy.”

One reason the president’s attitude may be changing is that coronavirus showed up at his doorstep, literally: Mar-a-Lago is now a hot spot. Last weekend, Trump interacted with a Brazilian government official who tested positive for COVID-19. The appearance of coronavirus inside the president’s bubble jolted the president’s inner circle that up until that point treated the virus more like a Democratic plot. With coronavirus lurking on the property, about a hundred guests sipped cocktails by the pool at a 50th birthday party for Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, former Fox News personality Kimberly Guilfoyle. RNC chairwoman Ronna McDanielannounced after attending the party that she was self-quarantining after experiencing flu-like symptoms. Another turning point was an intervention by Guilfoyle’s former colleague Tucker Carlson. A source who attended the party told me Carlson went to Mar-a-Lago to confront Trump directly about his failure to take the virus seriously.

Now that Trump is engaged and the crisis is accelerating—the Dow dropped nearly 3,000 points on Monday—Republicans fear he is operating without a playbook at a time when one is desperately needed. On Sunday night, with no unified message coming from the government, rumors swirled online that Trump would imminently announce a national lockdown (the White House tweeted that the rumor was false). But several former White House officials told me they believed the rumor to be true. “This is not what he likes to do,” a former West Wing official said. “There’s no boogeyman he can attack.” On Monday, Trump reportedly told governors they’re on their own. “Respirators, ventilators, all of the equipment—try getting it yourselves,” Trump said on a conference call, according to the New York Times.

Every hour seems to bring about a future that would have been unimaginable only days ago. Ohio might be postponing Tuesday’s primary. Would Trump try to delay the election? In another news conference on Monday afternoon, he announced federal guidelines banning gatherings of 10 or more people, auguring the rumored national lockdown. Republicans fear a lockdown could compound the crisis if Trump is cooped up in the White House with nothing to watch but the news. “What’s he going to do, watch reruns of the Masters from 2017? He’s just going to watch TV and tweet and it’s going to get worse,” the former official said.

 

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1 hour ago, gmr548 said:

Interesting that it's just companies. Though individual workers are much better protected in France than they are here.

In general I think this is a good idea. We need to just freeze the financial system for a few months, for the sake of both small businesses and workers.

This is what I was thinking. What would be the ramifications of putting a 60-day deferment on debt, mortgages, corporate leases, residential leases, etc? Could something like this even be done I wonder

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This has to have been the luckiest administration in our country's history.  To get to the 4th year before having any kind of crisis (other than the self inflicted ones) is unreal.  

The sad part is the administration never gained any competence in anything. It just sort of floated along at the whims of the President.  And now, everyone knows he (and everyone else still around) wears no clothes.

And yet, to a segment of our society, he can do no wrong.

 

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I dare one of y’all to post these latest stories on the DT thread.

There’s still a handful of morons over there defending this administration and making up situations to justify their inaction (“Trump slow played this because he knew people would panic!”).

I won’t ever wish for these Trumpkin morons to catch this virus or die (out loud) but I do hope some of them suffer severe shame and embarrassment at how this has been handled.

I pray they still have that capacity.

The only way these fuckknuckles learn not to touch the stove is when they burn their hands.

Lots of burnt fingers to go around.

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2 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I dare one of y’all to post these latest stories on the DT thread.

There’s still a handful of morons over there defending this administration and making up situations to justify their inaction (“Trump slow played this because he knew people would panic!”).

I won’t ever wish for these Trumpkin morons to catch this virus or die (out loud) but I do hope some of them suffer severe shame and embarrassment at how this has been handled.

I pray they still have that capacity.

The only way these fuckknuckles learn not to touch the stove is when they burn their hands.

Lots of burnt fingers to go around.

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6 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I dare one of y’all to post these latest stories on the DT thread.

There’s still a handful of morons over there defending this administration and making up situations to justify their inaction (“Trump slow played this because he knew people would panic!”).

I won’t ever wish for these Trumpkin morons to catch this virus or die (out loud) but I do hope some of them suffer severe shame and embarrassment at how this has been handled.

I pray they still have that capacity.

The only way these fuckknuckles learn not to touch the stove is when they burn their hands.

Lots of burnt fingers to go around.

If they had the capacity for shame or the ability to learn they wouldn’t be trump supporters.

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1 minute ago, Mo Horn said:

We haven't heard anything about Ivanka since she self quarantined 3 or 4 days ago. Did she get tested? If so what were the results? 

Hard to say, but who among us would be surprised if she had a cupgrade during the quarantine period.

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Even the worst behaved dogs learn to shit outside.

They’ll still vote for the orange turd - I’m just wishing they feel shame for just this one situation.

Because how does someone who can manage to feed themselves and wipe their own ass watch these press conferences and not see the dysfunction and negligence?

Like, it’s beyond my comprehension that anyone with 7 brain cells could watch his performances and be fine.

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10 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I dare one of y’all to post these latest stories on the DT thread.

There’s still a handful of morons over there defending this administration and making up situations to justify their inaction (“Trump slow played this because he knew people would panic!”).

I won’t ever wish for these Trumpkin morons to catch this virus or die (out loud) but I do hope some of them suffer severe shame and embarrassment at how this has been handled.

I pray they still have that capacity.

The only way these fuckknuckles learn not to touch the stove is when they burn their hands.

Lots of burnt fingers to go around.

JFC. You can’t just talk politics in here? You have to make them talk politics too? 

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17 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I dare one of y’all to post these latest stories on the DT thread.

There’s still a handful of morons over there defending this administration and making up situations to justify their inaction (“Trump slow played this because he knew people would panic!”).

I won’t ever wish for these Trumpkin morons to catch this virus or die (out loud) but I do hope some of them suffer severe shame and embarrassment at how this has been handled.

I pray they still have that capacity.

The only way these fuckknuckles learn not to touch the stove is when they burn their hands.

Lots of burnt fingers to go around.

Done. It might cost me a timeout but wtf

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2 hours ago, LTbear said:

Has anyone posted the San Francisco stuff in the past hour? Six Bay Area counties are instigating shelter in place. 7 million people can leave home only for essentials until April 7. Essential businesses like docs and grocery stores stay open. 

Well, kind of.....a good friend of mine works for a company that has 3  car dealerships in Silicon Valley,  and more in Southern Cal.  They have determined that their service departments qualify as "essential services" and will remain open.  The almighty dollar...

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12 minutes ago, otisdog said:

Well, kind of.....a good friend of mine works for a company that has 3  car dealerships in Silicon Valley,  and more in Southern Cal.  They have determined that their service departments qualify as "essential services" and will remain open.  The almighty dollar...

The mechanics are essential. Shit breaks and it's gotta get fixed. 

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

This has to have been the luckiest administration in our country's history.  To get to the 4th year before having any kind of crisis (other than the self inflicted ones) is unreal.  

The sad part is the administration never gained any competence in anything. It just sort of floated along at the whims of the President.  And now, everyone knows he (and everyone else still around) wears no clothes.

And yet, to a segment of our society, he can do no wrong.

 

Its true, though.  We haven't had any serious problems that weren't Trump's own doing since he took office.

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3 hours ago, LTbear said:

Has anyone posted the San Francisco stuff in the past hour? Six Bay Area counties are instigating shelter in place. 7 million people can leave home only for essentials until April 7. Essential businesses like docs and grocery stores stay open. 

I’m in Oakland. Glad I had some edibles delivered last night and liquor is sold in grocery stores. I have 1.75l bottle of Jameson, a handle and a half of Tito’s, 2 cases of beer, and a closet full of wine. I better hit up the store tomorrow to make sure I have enough booze. Probably pick up a brisket, as well. 

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