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1 hour ago, Ths71 said:

After weeks and weeks of the reading HCQ studies, articles and anecdotal reports I’ve reached these conclusions:
If you take it it probably won’t kill you
If you take it for COVID it probably won’t help you.

 

So virtually indistinguishable from a placebo. Got it. 

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9 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

How about, the latest grifter?

Wait, a minute. Are you gonna sit there and tell me that she had created a gofundme that had, when I last looked, $2500 in it, for her legal defense?

Legal defense, of what?

I'd show you the gofundme, but it's been taken down.

 

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On the plus side, this will help some recent law school grads who've probably had a bitch of a time of things studying for this year's bar. There's nothing like getting paid just enough to keep making those student loan payments to tell homeless people they're legally fucked. 


Thank god someone is finally thinking of the lawyers.
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Remember when trump diverted military funding to help build his Mexico wall? Now he’s using the coronavirus bill to directly replenish the military for some of the funding they lost to pay for the wall.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics/gop-coronavirus-bill-pentagon/index.html

in other words, the covid crisis is being used to indirectly fund his wall.  I hate to see the military have funding gaps but the gop needs to reap what they sow. They allowed trump to underfund the military for his wall priority to appease the mouth breathers at his rallies. They don’t get a free pass to fix that problem.  Pelosi needs to hold firm that nothing except direct covid aid is in the bill.

i get that senator shelby wants $260m for a ship built in Alabama that lost its funding due to the wall. Screw that. If the workers are out of work, give them the same unemployment benefits everyone else gets. Or let them go the build the wall with the funding trump took from them.

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28 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

And that good old boy in Fort Worth was ready to fire up the machinery for N95 masks and they gave him the Heisman 

Mike Bowen and Prestige Ameritech will be studied at colleges all over the country for 50 years.  

They were proactively calling their shot, they were available, they were ready, they were patriotic, and they were ready to turn it all on and make a few bucks in the process (nothing wrong with that).  And all they heard from DC was incompetence.  

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Is there anything that guy can't fuck up?  

"We need a tenured Congressional Republican familiar with Texas to accompany the President next week.  So stay healthy Louie, maybe lockdown at your DC home for awhile and follow CDC guidelines."   

Gohmert (looking like the guy who has just been bitten a zombie but doesn't want to tell the group), "Uh.....yeah.  Sure.  Can do, I'm your guy!"  

 

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I can only pray that Gohmert ends up in that .3% or whatever that has a very negative outcome.

He earlier made this statement, let's see if it holds true:
"I don't have the coronavirus, turns out as of yesterday I've never had it. But if I get it, you'll never see me without a mask,"

 

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tough read from medical professionals in houston

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HOUSTON, July 29 (Reuters) - The scene inside United Memorial Medical Center in Houston has become all too familiar: overwhelmed medical staff fighting to curb the wave of COVID-19 patients that come through the hospital's doors every day.

While in earlier pandemic hot spots like New York the medical emergency has subsided, Texas is among the many U.S. states battling a resurgence of the virus that is straining their healthcare systems.

Dr. Joseph Varon, the chief medical officer of United Memorial Medical Center (UMMC), said he is afraid he will soon face a dilemma many doctors elsewhere said they confronted earlier in the pandemic: deciding who to save.

"I'm afraid that at some point in time I'm going have to make some very serious decisions," he told Reuters in an interview. "I'm starting to get the idea that I cannot save everybody."

Varon, 58, is overseeing the hospital's unit dedicated to COVID-19 patients, where he said he tends to an average of 40 people a day. He said he signed more death certificates in the last week than at any point in his career.

Earlier this month, Reuters followed the lung and critical care specialist on a shift as he hurried through the hallways - a small cohort of nurses and medical students in tow - pausing to inspect X-rays or medical charts and check on patients, at times offering them words of comfort or reaching out to hold their hand.

Many of those in Varon's COVID-19 unit needed nasal tubes to help them breathe, some required intubation.

In the afternoon, the physician and his team rushed to resuscitate a patient, performing CPR on the man who was later pronounced dead. Medical personnel covered his body in white sheets and wrapped it in a biohazard bag.

As the coronavirus pandemic that has gripped the nation for months showed little signs of abating, healthcare workers on the frontlines often fall prey to the virus that has killed around 150,000 people in the United States.

Varon's team is no exception. Christina Mathers, a 43-year-old nurse at UMMC, was told she tested positive for COVID-19 last week after she reported feeling ill during her shift.

"That's the hardest thing to ever hear... It messes with you," said Mathers, who has been working every other day since April 29. "But I wouldn't go anywhere else but here."

Varon, who was a hospital intern when a huge quake struck Mexico City in 1985, said dealing with the virus has been incredibly challenging for medical professionals. "Throughout my life, I have been in major disasters," he said. "Nothing has been as difficult to deal with (as) COVID."

Riley Harrison, 67, said he started feeling out of breath at work and that he struggled to get enough air in his lungs to call his wife, who also contracted the virus. Now, they are both hospitalized at UMMC.

"I couldn't breathe," Riley said in a whisper as oxygen flowed through tubes in his nose. "If you got a death wish, play with COVID."

Medical experts and officials have been sounding the alarm on the growing number of young people who are falling ill with COVID-19, warning they should not discount it as a virus dangerous for elderly people alone.

Eighteen-year-old Larissa Raudales had trouble breathing and said her lungs hurt when she was taken to UMMC. With medication, she was starting to feel better.

"I was terrified... I thought I couldn't breathe anymore," she said. "I just thought I was going to practically die right there."

Texas, along with California and Florida, has emerged as one of the new national hot spots. So far in July, the state has more than doubled its cases to over 400,000 total. Deaths rose by 32%, or over 1,000 lives lost, in the last week alone. But lately the number of new cases has slowed and hospitalized COVID-19 patients are down from record highs.

Dr. David Persse, the health authority for the Houston Health Department, said hospitals in the area were "struggling" as they dealt with a shortage of personnel to tackle a crisis that has been dragging out for months.

"The people who work in hospitals are exhausted... It takes a physical and an emotional toll on you," he said. "It's not always been pretty but it's been functional, and this is why we call it a disaster."

i'm surprised Dr. Varon hasn't deployed @Johnny Sack's tan, ready and rested reinforcements to fight this battle. seems like a no-brainer to me. 

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17 hours ago, babysdaddy said:

Including your coach or nah?

Yes, especially since this is our last chance at any real success with him, since he'll be faced with negative recruiting as long as he's here, because of his fat fucking mouth.

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I can only pray that Gohmert ends up in that .3% or whatever that has a very negative outcome.

He earlier made this statement, let's see if it holds true:
"I don't have the coronavirus, turns out as of yesterday I've never had it. But if I get it, you'll never see me without a mask,"
 

Not gonna lie—I’d be pretty happy if Gohmert does of the COVID.


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I don't want Louis to die, but I wouldn't mind him getting sick enough that he comes out of it questioning all of his life choices and beliefs. It'd be much more satisfying to get a redemption story and mea culpa out of it.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Remember when trump diverted military funding to help build his Mexico wall? Now he’s using the coronavirus bill to directly replenish the military for some of the funding they lost to pay for the wall.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics/gop-coronavirus-bill-pentagon/index.html

in other words, the covid crisis is being used to indirectly fund his wall.  I hate to see the military have funding gaps but the gop needs to reap what they sow. They allowed trump to underfund the military for his wall priority to appease the mouth breathers at his rallies. They don’t get a free pass to fix that problem.  Pelosi needs to hold firm that nothing except direct covid aid is in the bill.

i get that senator shelby wants $260m for a ship built in Alabama that lost its funding due to the wall. Screw that. If the workers are out of work, give them the same unemployment benefits everyone else gets. Or let them go the build the wall with the funding trump took from them.

The military could easily get buy with a 25 to 30 percent decrease in funding.

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This article explains why initial in vitro reports of SARS activity based on cell cultures was a head fake, and why the clinical data just hasn't borne out the initial signal. Can't wait to see more newsweek articles posted from an epidemiologist that apparently doesn't understand the correlation and causation. 

 

Why hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine don’t block coronavirus infection of human lung cells

The new study was carried out by scientists in Germany who tested HCQ on a collection of different cell types to figure out why this drug doesn’t prevent the virus from infecting humans.

Their findings clearly show that that HQC can block the coronavirus from infecting kidney cells from the African green monkey. But it does not inhibit the virus in human lung cells – the primary site of infection for the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

In order for the virus to enter a cell, it can do so by two mechanisms - one, when the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein attaches to the ACE2 receptor and inserts its genetic material into the cell. In the second mechanism, the virus is absorbed into some special compartments in cells called endosomes.

Depending on the cell type, some, like kidney cells, need an enzyme called cathepsin L for the virus to successfully infect them. In lung cells, however, an enzyme called TMPRSS2 (on the cell surface) is necessary. Cathepsin L requires an acidic environment to function and allow the virus to infect the cell, while TMPRSS2 does not.

In the green monkey kidney cells, both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine decrease the acidity, which then disables the cathepsin L enzyme, blocking the virus from infecting the monkey cells. In human lung cells, which have very low levels of cathepsin L enzyme, the virus uses the enzyme TMPRSS2 to enter the cell. But because that enzyme is not controlled by acidity, neither HCQ and CQ can block the SARS-CoV-2 from infecting the lungs or stop the virus from replicating.

https://theconversation.com/why-hydroxychloroquine-and-chloroquine-dont-block-coronavirus-infection-of-human-lung-cells-143234

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2575-3

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47 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I don't want Louis to die, but I wouldn't mind him getting sick enough that he comes out of it questioning all of his life choices and beliefs. It'd be much more satisfying to get a redemption story and mea culpa out of it.

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i'm sure we aren't relying on russias help on this one.  we have plenty of retards here. 

The American dumbfucks start it and then the Russian/foreign/4chan trolls hop on and amplify what the dumbfucks started.

I don’t believe the troll farms actually generate any of the nonsense. They stand on the sidelines and jump in.
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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

I don't want Louis to die, but I wouldn't mind him getting sick enough that he comes out of it questioning all of his life choices and beliefs. It'd be much more satisfying to get a redemption story and mea culpa out of it.

Yeah, I'm not into wishing death upon people, even the evil and/or stupid, but if he did die, he'd be a...what's the opposite of martyr?

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

I don't want Louis to die, but I wouldn't mind him getting sick enough that he comes out of it questioning all of his life choices and beliefs. It'd be much more satisfying to get a redemption story and mea culpa out of it.

It doesn't have to be him.  But a few of these assholes have gotten pretty sick and it hasn't changed the rest of them.  If one of them dies, it sends a louder message.

I didn't want Boris Johnson to die, but had he died, it would have woken up a lot of these Republicans at an early enough time to actually save some American lives. 

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2 hours ago, bolverk said:

I don't want Louis to die, but I wouldn't mind him getting sick enough that he comes out of it questioning all of his life choices and beliefs. It'd be much more satisfying to get a redemption story and mea culpa out of it.

You're right, we should take the high road. I hope he recovers and then gives a speech on the House floor on the dangers of Covid-19 followed by introducing a bill to raise unemployment benefits, require nation-wide mask usage, and fund schools that must operate virtually. And then I would like him to get run over by a bus the next day.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/large-gatherings-are-fueling-rising-covid-19-cases-but-they-keep-happening/ar-BB17jbm3?li=BBnb7Kz
 

Once again, one subset of “large gatherings” not included. 
 

Lol at the Cuomo quote. 
 

"I am appalled. The Department of Health will conduct an investigation," the governor said. "We have no tolerance for the illegal & reckless endangerment of public health."

 

Interdasting 

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15 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Taking medical advice from a YouTube doctor is like taking tax advice from Wesley Snipes.

what leaves me so incredulous is that someone with so much power and influence (84 million twitter followers) wields it so carelessly.

Trump this morning : "I was very impressed with her and other doctors that stood with her.  I think she made sense, but I know nothing about her."

It's literally a matter of life and death, but stagecraft that looks good on TV and pablum that endorses his entrenched positions gets directly promoted to nearly a third of all Americans.

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25 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

You're right, we should take the high road. I hope he recovers and then gives a speech on the House floor on the dangers of Covid-19 followed by introducing a bill to raise unemployment benefits, require nation-wide mask usage, and fund schools that must operate virtually. And then I would like him to get run over by a bus the next day.

He just said in an interview that he got the virus from a mask he wore at some point.

Just fire the bus up right now.

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16 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

He just said in an interview that he got the virus from a mask he wore at some point.

I like that he doubled down. You caught a virus because you acted cavalier. And at this point, a normal person would take their lumps. But he doubles down blaming the mask, that he never really worse anyways, for getting infected. He dumb.

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