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2 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

The dummies are slowly, quietly conceding. Just like they did with gay marriage and marijuana and civil rights. 

None of them will admit they were reckless dumbfucks who fought like hell to preserve disease and death in the face of overwhelming factual evidence of their stupidity. They’ll just quietly slink over to the right side of history, never acknowledging the misery caused by their delay.

And they’ll do it again on whatever the next dumb wedge issue is. They’ll be wrong, and belligerently so. They’ll stymie progress and cast votes for psychopaths who pander to a wrong-headed position that they believe so strongly at the time, but will inevitably quietly abandon when enough of their fellow travelers in stupidity jump ship. They’ll generally fuck things up and create problems that grown-ups will spend generations unfucking, all in the service of some god damned nitwit bullshit that gets them all riled up until they finally catch up to the rest of the class and experience a fleeting moment of self-realization before moving on to the next dumb line in the sand.

Dumb America’s unceasing war against reason is exhausting. 

 

Yeah...that's never going to happen.

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1 hour ago, MissingInAction said:

My friends cousin, a marathon runner, caught it early on last year. She was of the mindset that she is very healthy, even if she gets it, blah blah.

We she has asthma now from covid and won't be running anywhere any more.

Friend's cousin?

Tell your her not to get vaccinated because swollen tits will completely fubar her marathon training.

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1 hour ago, sidis said:

the craziest (or maybe the most recent so it is just in my mind) example of this that has legitimately blown my mind is the flip flop on the iraq and afghanistan wars.  along with the 2000 elections insanity, the polarization of society really started ramp up then.  i was legitimately threatened numerous times on top of being just generally accused of unpatriotic, hate the troops bullshit back in 2002 - 2004 when objecting to the american asian adventurism that suddenly became the zeitgeist at the time.  the bloodlust after 9/11 was enough to make any objectors to afghanistan a seriously irrelevant minority but there were enough of us in the lead up to iraq, that it became politically inflamed and was really the beginning of the fox crowd going insane.  republicans were

since trump, these people would have you believe that it was the liberals that ran us into that war guns ablazin'.  it is utterly fascinating.  and yes, i am fully aware that many prominent democrats voted and advocated for both invasions but they were not driving the bus at the time and did not have control.  wolfowitz, rumsfeld, cheney, and the rest of the gang drove that whole thing and the objectors were dismissed as traitors, unpatriotic, hate the troops, why don't you wear the yellow ribbon, etc...

now they act like they were a bunch of objecting isolationists the whole time...and as someone who was relentlessly attacked for dissent, that has been utterly fascinating.

This drives me insane. Fox News pretty decided anyone who opposed the Iraq war as a traitor. The same talking heads have now memory holed all their bullshit and taken the stance that Bush was bad and the Iraq war was bad (which to their credit are true). Just chugging right along, zero mea culpa, flip flopping like they accused John Kerry of doing. 

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8 minutes ago, Smax said:

 I'm done, I'm rooting for the virus, time to thin the herd. The info is out there choose your path wisely as this is our chance to stop idiocracy from actually happening

I'm not just rooting for the virus.  I'm rooting for it to evolve in one particular way: if you are an unvaxxed adult, the lethality rate skyrockets.  If you are a vaccinated adult, if you even get infected it only causes you to sneeze one time.  And if you are a child, it doesn't affect you at all.

We live in the dumbest place in the dumbest timeline in the Republic of Dumbassistan in the capital city of Idiotopolis.

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm not just rooting for the virus.  I'm rooting for it to evolve in one particular way: if you are an unvaxxed adult, the lethality rate skyrockets.  If you are a vaccinated adult, if you even get infected it only causes you to sneeze one time.  And if you are a child, it doesn't affect you at all.

We live in the dumbest place in the dumbest timeline in the Republic of Dumbassistan in the capital city of Idiotopolis.

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Foosters said:

There you are, blaming Black people again.

Got a cite to that statistic, btw? 

 

7 minutes ago, heso said:

I don’t care what color your skin is. That’s a bullshit red herring. If you’ve chosen to go unvaccinated you’ve chosen the path of anti-science. You’ve actively chosen to spread the disease and you should be shamed for it. They shouldn’t be treated at the hospital, the should be bussed to empty warehouses, parking garages, and tent cities where they are given whatever care that can be given that won’t additionally stress the health care system and the should be billed directly for it. Fuck em. 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html

-If you are fully vaccinated and become infected with the Delta variant, you can spread the virus to others

 

 

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I played magic the gathering for most of my childhood. This is a card that was part of a set in the late 90’s and for the entirety of this pandemic, every time I’ve seen an anti masker in public I can’t help but picture this in my head.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

Except minority (both black and hispanic) vaccination rates are steadily increasing -- increased access and availability and outreach have all helped.  The bulk of vaccine RESISTANCE -- "I will never ever ever ever get the shot" resides in one demographic.  But to be clear, I don't CARE what your demographic is if you are a member of that group.  White MAGA, hispanic, black, I don't care.  If you have chosen to tell society to get fucked because your individual personal choice is paramount, then live with the consequences of that choice as an individual, and do not impose ANY cost on the rest of society.  Die at home.  Alone.

We have a literally deadly pandemic of toxic individuality.  I wish that it only harmed its practitioners.  But as kids go into sepsis because they can't get a bed for appendicitis, as veterans die because they can't get a bed for an easily treatable condition, the INDIVIDUAL choices are harming OTHER PEOPLE.  So, fuck the individuals.  I show them the same utter contempt and lack of compassion that they have demonstrated that they believe is the American ideal.  I am all-in on their super-duper-freedom vision of America.  And I think they should die the way they lived -- alone, with nobody giving a shit about anyone else, including them.

75% of adults have at least one shot. That leaves 25% unvaxxed, of that group a decent % knowingly or unknowingly have antibodies. Also, as you sad, more unvaxxed are starting to get the shot. 

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16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Except minority (both black and hispanic) vaccination rates are steadily increasing -- increased access and availability and outreach have all helped.  The bulk of vaccine RESISTANCE -- "I will never ever ever ever get the shot" resides in one demographic.  But to be clear, I don't CARE what your demographic is if you are a member of that group.  White MAGA, hispanic, black, I don't care.  If you have chosen to tell society to get fucked because your individual personal choice is paramount, then live with the consequences of that choice as an individual, and do not impose ANY cost on the rest of society.  Die at home.  Alone.

We have a literally deadly pandemic of toxic individuality.  I wish that it only harmed its practitioners.  But as kids go into sepsis because they can't get a bed for appendicitis, as veterans die because they can't get a bed for an easily treatable condition, the INDIVIDUAL choices are harming OTHER PEOPLE.  So, fuck the individuals.  I show them the same utter contempt and lack of compassion that they have demonstrated that they believe is the American ideal.  I am all-in on their super-duper-freedom vision of America.  And I think they should die the way they lived -- alone, with nobody giving a shit about anyone else, including them.

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8 minutes ago, lmao said:

Form your link:

At least 40% of those who would wait and see about getting a vaccine are minorities, while those who definitely will not are overwhelmingly White, per KFF.”

 

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2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

This is like a double-MOron move. First, this fidiot shows up in Blackface. Then, she shows up claiming to be Rosa Parks, who is possibly lighter-skinned than half the "white" Trumpoverse.

Definitely did not do her own research.

Only mitigating circumstance I can think of is mind-snappage from having to work in a sticky elementary school, but c'mon...

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https://michiganadvance.com/2021/09/20/kent-co-health-director-tells-commissioners-after-almost-being-run-off-the-road-i-need-help/

 

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After a woman attempted to run Kent County Health Department director Adam London off the road just hours after he issued a mask mandate for some schools last month, the health officer issued a plea to the Kent County Board of Commissioners.

“I need help,” London wrote in an Aug. 22 email to the county commissioners, which Michigan Advance received today after filing a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the Kent County Board of Commissioners last week. “My team and I are broken. I’m about done. I’ve done my job to the best of my ability. I’ve given just about everything to Kent County, and now I’ve given some more of my safety.”

 

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London’s email followed his announcement on Aug. 20 that masks would be required for anyone in preschool through sixth grade school buildings in Kent County in order to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Kids under 12 are not eligible for the COVID-19 vaccine.

The decision to mandate masks in schools is supported by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, and a long list of groups local to Kent County, including Helen DeVos Children’s Hospital, Mercy Health Saint Mary’s, and Metro Health — University of Michigan Health, among others.

 

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Despite this support, London and other members of the Kent County Health Department have received vitriolic criticism, as well as threats of violence, over the mandate. At an Aug. 26 Kent County Board of Commissioners meeting, a large and often raucous crowd spewed harsh and aggressive words for London, who had to attend the meeting virtually due to concerns for his physical safety.

“I had a woman try to run me off the road at 70+ miles per hour…twice, on Friday night,” London wrote in his Aug. 22 email to commissioners. “I think we have all seen the aggression and violence displayed at meetings across the nation during the past week.”

 

 

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“There is nothing to be gained by entertaining such people with dialog,” London continued. “In many cases, these are the same people who dismiss the plot against the governor [Gretchen Whitmer] as “just guys joking around” and the January 6th insurrection [at the U.S. Capitol] as a peaceful patriotic protest. I think it is a grave mistake to unnecessarily give them targets and platforms. There is a sickness in America far more insidious than COVID. You are more empowered to fight this disease than I am.”

London declined to comment for this story. The Kent County Sheriff’s Office is working with the Advance on providing additional information regarding threats against London and the road attack.

Across Michigan, local health and education officials have increasingly faced aggression and threats of violence, including death threats, after issuing school mask mandates. Last school year, the state Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) required masks, but has left it up to local officials this school year. The DHHS has said it is advocating, but not requiring, that schools implement indoor masking policies to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Whitmer has said state officials are focusing on local districts implementing school mask policies because they believe residents will be more likely to follow those requirements than if they came from the state.

“We are relying on school districts to work with our local public health experts to develop policies and enlist the support of the community. We know that broad mandates are only so effective, and when they happen at the local level it increases compliance,” Whitmer told reporters earlier this month at an event in Kent County.

However, that decision has left local health and school officials to become the targets of public ire — and that, London said, is taking a deep toll on health department employees, himself and his family. 

 

In his Aug. 22 email to commissioners, in which the health officer provides extensive data supporting the county’s school mask requirement, London paints a dark picture of the abuse he has faced, from people “accusing me of being a deep state agent of liberal-progressive socialist powers that are working to undo the America they love (paraphrased minus expletives)” to others calling him a “child-abusing monster.”

“Last week, I had a person yell out to me, “Hey mother******, I hope someone abuses your kids and forces you to watch,” London wrote. 

London’s “health, my family and now our safety have paid a price for my work over the past year and a half,” the health officer told county commissioners in his email.

“I want you to know that I will not needlessly expose myself (or my family for that matter) to the brute mob hatred that is crudely evident in a vocal and energized minority,” London wrote. “These are people who hope to force their views on others through intimidation, aggression, and their rhetoric suggests violence as well. I will not participate in witch trials in which the science I’ve presented, and the opinions of legitimate experts, is reduced to the same stage as people living in echo-chambers of junk science, salespeople, and Youtube videos. For the leaders of these misinformation campaigns, it’s never really been about our data; it’s been about their dogma.”

Melissa Ryan, the editor of the Ctrl Alt-Right Delete newsletter and an expert on extremism, emphasized this idea in a recent interview with Michigan Advance. The vitriol lobbed at local health and education officials is often perpetuated and exacerbated not by local residents but through right-wing talking points and national funding campaigns, Ryan said.

“You can’t really talk about what’s happening in Michigan without talking about other states,” Ryan told the Advance. “It’s national politics and national money and strategy being spent to pit neighbor against neighbor in school districts.”

It’s not just attending large commission meetings who have hurled intense criticism for London and health department employees. Four West Michigan Republican state legislators — state reps. Thomas Albert (R-Lowell), Mark Huizenga (R-Walker), Steven Johnson (R-Wayland), and Bryan Posthumus (R-Cannon Twp.) — recently threatened to pull funding from the Kent County Health Department if masks are mandated in schools. 

“Along with several of my colleagues, I’ve sent a letter to the Kent County Health Department calling on them to avoid implementing any mask mandates,” Johnson wrote on his official government Facebook page on Aug. 16. “Personally, I don’t believe they have the authority to implement a mask mandate and should they try, I will refuse to follow their mandate and encourage others to disobey this overreach into people’s lives.”

And after members of the public called on Kent County commissioners to rescind the Health Department’s mask mandate, both the county’s in-house legal team and an outside counsel group, Warner Norcross & Judd, concluded that is not legal.

“Both opinions concluded that neither the Kent County Board of Commissioners nor the County Administrator/Controller have the authority to intervene in the health officer’s performance of his statutory duties under Michigan’s Public Health Code,” the county wrote in Sept. 8 statement.

Members of the public also have called on London to resign, or for the county to fire the health officer.

“If you want to fire me, or censure me, or pass a resolution condemning me, by all means please proceed,” London wrote in his Aug. 22 email. “Do what you need to do your job. But first, let me share my prayer with you: I pray that people more powerful than me, Democrats and Republicans, rise up with one voice and say, ‘we will not tolerate or provide quarter for this nonsense in our part of America.’ Public service is honorable and noble. Change the laws if they’re not good; don’t destroy the people who are carrying out laws you don’t like. If people like Adam London aren’t going to keep doing this work, who will?”

In response to the threats of violence London has received, Democratic Kent County commissioners issued a statement of support for the health officer and the county health department. Republican commissioners were asked to sign their names to the statement from Democrats; none did so. Kent County Board of Commissioners Chair Mandy Bolter and Vice Chair Stan Stek, both Republicans, did not respond to repeated requests for comment for this story.

“Many Kent County employees have been stretched to the breaking point during the pandemic, but none more so than those in the Health Department,” reads the statement  from Democratic County Commissioners Phil Skaggs, Michelle McCloud, Carol Hennessy, Melissa LaGrand, Dave Bulkowski, Robert Womack, and Stephen Wooden. 

The Democratic lawmakers said the statement was issued “in absence of official public support from the Board of Commissioners.”

“We have been shocked to learn that [London] and his family have received threats to their physical safety and disheartened to see his reputation abused in public forums,” the Democratic commissioners wrote. “While it is our wish that all Kent County Commissioners would unite in publicly supporting [London] and his team, we will not wait to express our gratitude for the Health Department and [London]. We support the August 20th health order requiring mask use in PK-6 educational settings and appreciate their work to keep the people of Kent County healthy and safe in the face of a serious threat.”

Skaggs, a Democratic commissioner who represents portions of southeastern Grand Rapids and East Grand Rapids, said in an interview with Michigan Advance that “every member of the county commission is aware of the threats to Adam London and the Health Department and the attempted vehicular assault against Adam London.”

“We were hoping that the Republican leadership would take action, and they did nothing,” Skaggs continued. “We felt it was necessary for us to [issue the statement], even if we had to act alone. I encouraged them to sign onto the statement. I think unfortunately some of them agree with the message that masks are ineffective, that the pandemic is a hoax, and that the vaccine is unproven and dangerous, but I think the majority of them are simply unwilling to take a courageous stand on behalf of public health.”

In his email to commissioners, London wrote that “because my character is under attack,” he wanted the elected officials to know more about him.

“I am a Christian, and I embrace my job because it is an expression of that working faith,” he wrote. “ … I attend church on Sundays and holy days, pray and study every day, and you can often find me spending my lunch hour at St. Andrew’s Cathedral attending noon mass and praying for you, my co-workers, the people of Kent County, and the wisdom to do my job well.

“Others are calling me a traitor to our nation and liberty who must be stopped at all costs,” London wrote. “Really? I’m the grandson of two WWII heroes, the son and step-son of men who served during Vietnam, and the brother of a soldier who served in Afghanistan. We proudly wave the flag at my house and in my office. Faith, Family and Country.”

Ultimately, London told commissioners, he hopes elected officials will take a hard look at themselves and how they are doing their own jobs.

“I also believe it would be more helpful for the legislature to work on new laws which better protect rights and public health instead of attacking public servants,” London wrote.

 

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1 hour ago, Foosters said:

There you are, blaming Black people again.

Got a cite to that statistic, btw? 

It's rather ironic, isn't it?

The polio vaccine that prevented so much suffering of children regardless of race, was first tested on HeLa cells. If anyone has not yet read The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks, they should do so.

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“Hospitalizations have trended downward over the past week, but doctors and health officials say that’s not exactly a good sign. “It is not because these patients are miraculously getting better and going home,” University of Alabama Medicine chief of hospital medicine Dr. Kierstin Kennedy told CNN. “It's because they're dying.”


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Early on in the pandemic I mourned the loss of a close friend who died after a month on a ventilator.  Once the vaccines became widely available, I'm done mourning the dead and dying who refused the vax.  Fuck em.  I'll feel sorry for their family in the way I feel bad seeing starving kids halfway across the world.  Shit happens, sometimes bad shit to good people.  I am saving my sympathy for the people with young kids and vulnerable elderly as they can't get back to normal yet.  

 

Fucking asshole motherfucker antivaxers need to get singed in a fire.

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18 minutes ago, Grandioso said:

“Hospitalizations have trended downward over the past week, but doctors and health officials say that’s not exactly a good sign. “It is not because these patients are miraculously getting better and going home,” University of Alabama Medicine chief of hospital medicine Dr. Kierstin Kennedy told CNN. “It's because they're dying.”


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1 hour ago, lmao said:

75% of adults have at least one shot. That leaves 25% unvaxxed, of that group a decent % knowingly or unknowingly have antibodies. Also, as you sad, more unvaxxed are starting to get the shot. 

Does being associated with a death cult make you feel good?  You get off on Goebel’s?  Fucking weirdo.  

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/health/us-covid-deaths-surpass-1918-pandemic/index.html

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Despite all the scientific and medical advances of the past 103 years, the Covid-19 pandemic has now killed more Americans than the 1918 flu pandemic did. 

More than 675,000 people in the United States have died from Covid-19, according to Johns Hopkins University. That surpasses the estimated US death toll from the deadliest pandemic of the 20th century.

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