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Meh. Avery Johnson got fired in the middle of the year and this was coming off an NBA Finals appearance and a 67 win season the prior years. Casey never even got to the Finals. This was a massive failure. They went all out to get the 1 seed and got swept in the 2nd round in a year where the East was there for the taking. Plus, once the coach loses some of the better players, he will be gone. Avery lost Dirk and he got the boot. 

But Toronto is going nowhere at all with Derozan/Lowry in the backcourt. They need to change that up as well.

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37 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

How do you fire the coach of the year

Everyone knows that winning coach of the year is the kiss of death. This article is a couple of years old, but you can add Mike Budenolzer (2015), now gone from Atlanta to the list.  Kerr won in 2016 and D'Antoni in 2017. Kerr certainly isn't going anywhere unless his back gives out and D'Antoni looks great Houston, but the narrative can change pretty quickly depending what happens in the playoffs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/congrats-on-the-nba-coach-of-the-year-award-by-the-way-youre-fired/2015/05/03/b14f87c8-f136-11e4-8666-a1d756d0218e_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.de04b878f9c5

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Here’s a look at the fate of NBA coaches of the year over the past decade (excluding Popovich, honored after the 2011-12 and 2013-14 seasons):

Avery Johnson, Mavericks (2005-06): Fired two seasons later during a year in which he became the fastest coach to reach 150 wins in NBA history.

Sam Mitchell, Raptors (2006-07): Fired 17 games into 2008-09 season, one year after surpassing Lenny Wilkens for most wins in team history.

Byron Scott, Hornets (2007-08): Fired nine games into 2009-10 season; like Mitchell, lasted barely more than one year after winning award.

Mike Brown, Cavaliers (2008-09): Fired one season after leading team to franchise-best 66-16 record; he was 61-21.

Scott Brooks, Thunder (2009-10): Fired last month despite .620 winning percentage with team over seven seasons.

Tom Thibodeau, Bulls (2010-11): The only survivor of the group, though the yahoos have been calling for his head during dry stretches of this season.

George Karl, Nuggets (2012-13): Took the team to playoffs all nine seasons as coach; Nuggets have missed playoffs in both seasons since he was fired.

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14 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Here’s a look at the fate of NBA coaches of the year over the past decade (excluding Popovich, honored after the 2011-12 and 2013-14 seasons):

Avery Johnson, Mavericks (2005-06): Fired two seasons later during a year in which he became the fastest coach to reach 150 wins in NBA history.

Sam Mitchell, Raptors (2006-07): Fired 17 games into 2008-09 season, one year after surpassing Lenny Wilkens for most wins in team history.

Byron Scott, Hornets (2007-08): Fired nine games into 2009-10 season; like Mitchell, lasted barely more than one year after winning award.

Mike Brown, Cavaliers (2008-09): Fired one season after leading team to franchise-best 66-16 record; he was 61-21.

Scott Brooks, Thunder (2009-10): Fired last month despite .620 winning percentage with team over seven seasons.

Tom Thibodeau, Bulls (2010-11): The only survivor of the group, though the yahoos have been calling for his head during dry stretches of this season.

George Karl, Nuggets (2012-13): Took the team to playoffs all nine seasons as coach; Nuggets have missed playoffs in both seasons since he was fired.

This Coach of the Year list also doubles as a list of Really Shitty Coaches. 

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21 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

How do you fire the coach of the year

When he loses 10 straight playoff gms to a single opponent.   Or when he loses 3 times to lower seeded teams in the last 5 yrs.    On the surface, it doesn't look good but when you add those factors its not that unreasonable.   Shit getting swept by WAS a couple yrs ago when they had home court would've got most guys fired.

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41 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Casey was the wolves coach prior to Toronto. I didn't shed a tear when he didn't work out here

 

 

 

He'll catch on somewhere and fail there

Yeah he is in the good ole boys network now.   He will get another gig soon.  Heard rumblings of MIL

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6 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

not exactly sure i'd call his tenure in toronto a failure.  he couldn't get by lebron, but neither can anyone else in the conference and this is the best stretch of basketball in the history of the raptors franchise.  

It absolutely was NOT a failure.  He is the best coach in history of the franchise by a large stretch.    Just couldn't get over the hump.    It wasn't so much that he could beat LBJ it was that they got curb stomped by LBJ.   They were never really even close.     I think Ujiri bears a large part of that responsibility too though.   Putting your franchise in the hands of Fuck Kyle Lowry is very bad idea.

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7 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

not exactly sure i'd call his tenure in toronto a failure.  he couldn't get by lebron, but neither can anyone else in the conference and this is the best stretch of basketball in the history of the raptors franchise.  

2017 1 seed, went to 7 vs the hapless Wizards, swept by Lebron

2016 3 seed: went to 6 vs Milwaukee last year, got swept by Lebron

2015 2 seed Went to 7 vs Indiana, went to 7 vs Miami, actually beat Lebron twice but lost

2014: 4 seed swept by Washington

2013: Lost to Brooklyn in 7(KG, Joe Johnson, Deron and Paul Pierce LOL)

Missed playoffs in 2011, 2012

 

He definitely didnt make things easy without ever sweeping any team or at least winning in 5 when they should coast. some of the problem is that he doesnt have a superstar. Some nice pieces but yea, its a superstar league.

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

but i mean there are only like 5 or 6 superstars who really matter (the type who can win a series on their own).  hard to blame him for not having one of them.

True but you have get your 2nd level guys to understand that they are not superstars and have a system that works.    Up until this yr Fuck Kyle Lowry in particularly thought he was a superstar and tried to take over in playoff series when isn't capable of doing so.

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