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10 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Over under on first case of covid announced due to practice?   Ugh I can’t beleive I said that.  Let’s go.   I hope all schools do it right and sept 1 no cases to show the staff is doing it right 

They say they are going into camp with no positive cases. My worry is going to be when the players are fully back on campus with other students and the inevitable house party kind of thing pops and half the team goes down.

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3 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

They say they are going into camp with no positive cases. My worry is going to be when the players are fully back on campus with other students and the inevitable house party kind of thing pops and half the team goes down.

Yeah I think the staff can prevent anything happening to players. It’s other folks coming around and infecting.  Hopefully not. The seniors this year have been prepping its their time 

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1 minute ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Yeah I think the staff can prevent anything happening to players. It’s other folks coming around and infecting.  Hopefully not. The seniors this year have been prepping its their time 

They can't prevent the players from being young men. I Uber'd a veteran skill player to a Riverside apartment complex 2 weeks ago. He was meeting up a girl. I have 0 confidence that these young men are disciplined enough to keep themselves away from parties and/or young women for 4 months. I just hope enough of them do that we get football, because I'm selfish and it's my favorite time of the year.

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4 minutes ago, BurdineBandit said:

They can't prevent the players from being young men. I Uber'd a veteran skill player to a Riverside apartment complex 2 weeks ago. He was meeting up a girl. I have 0 confidence that these young men are disciplined enough to keep themselves away from parties and/or young women for 4 months. I just hope enough of them do that we get football, because I'm selfish and it's my favorite time of the year.

Pretty much this. The only way to really stop it in the US given our high rate of spread, even for professionals, is to have a bubble enforced by the league authority. So get on that Big XII/NCAA, you're so good at things!

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(Chip Brown) Morning Brew: Five storylines as fall camp starts

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Good Morning Horns247!! Here are five storylines I'm watching as the Texas Longhorns start fall camp practices Friday:

1) Texas players meshing with seven new assistant coaches

I've heard really good things about the players vibing with new offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich and defensive coordinator Chris Ash. Now, it's time to see how that vibing happens on the field with Tom Herman's revamped coaching staff. Yurcich has coached in the Big 12 after spending six years calling offensive plays at Oklahoma State (2013-18). Ash hasn't coached in the Big 12, but he has coached a national championship defense (at Ohio State in 2014).

2) Overcoming a rash of soft-tissue injuries

Because players didn't have spring ball or a normal summer conditioning program due to the Covid-19 pandemic, players have struggled with a rash of soft-tissue injuries, including several receivers (Jordan Whittington, Michigan grad transfer Tarik Black, Al'Vonte Woodard and Kennedy Lewis among them). Whittington will be out the first couple weeks of camp. Running back Keaontay Ingram, who had been hampered with a hamstring injury since April, is cleared to begin camp.

3) Finding two new starters on the offensive line to replace center Zach Shackelford and left guard Parker Braun

With Derek Kerstetter moving from right tackle to center, we're really talking about finding a new starting guard and new starting right tackle. I've been saying, keep an eye on redshirt freshman Isaiah Hookfin as a possible starter at guard. One team source told me of Hookfin, "The guy is a physical freak." Fifth-year senior Denzel Okafor is expected to be in a good battle with Christian Jones, Tyler Johnson and Reese Moore for the right tackle spot. Okafor, Willie Tyler and Tope Imade will also be in contention with Hookfin for the vacant guard position. Coaches are excited about the progress of Samuel Cosmi, Kerstetter and Junior Angilau.

4) The battle at linebacker

This group has been an enigma outside of Joseph Ossai at the Jack/outside linebacker position, which is really a standup defensive end. You've got young guys like Marcus Tillman and David Gbenda looking to make a move while DeMarvion Overshown makes the adjustment to weakside linebacker. If Texas could land Arizona graduate transfer weakside linebacker Tony Fields, a three-year starter for Arizona, it would be a big boost to the depth and talent of this group. One team source said landing Fields "would be huge."

5) The battle at cornerback

You've got Jalen Green and D'Shawn Jamison with starting experience and the confidence of having made some plays last season despite fighting through injuries. But I'm told Josh Thompson and Kenyatta Watson are coming. Should be fun.

 

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Jeff Howe: Burning camp questions for the Texas defensive line

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The longest offseason Texas head coach Tom Herman and his charges have ever experienced is almost over. Robbed of spring practice due to the COVID-19 pandemic and limited to only position-specific conditioning in winter workouts and a cobbled-together summer session featuring walkthrough practices in the days leading up to camp opening Friday, the Longhorns haven’t been on the field together in a true practice setting since prior to a 38-10 win over Utah in the Alamo Bowl on New Year’s Eve to end the final season of the decade of the 2010s with an 8-5 record.

After eight months out of helmets, Texas is ready to put them back on, but the conditions upon the team’s return to the field are vastly different. In addition to attempting to prioritize maximizing practice time in the midst of a global health crisis, the Longhorns will hit the practice field unsure of what the season schedule will ultimately look like with the Big 12 adopting a 10-game scheduling model Monday, but no decision has been on a start date for conference play or the one permissible non-conference game.

Nevertheless, things should start to feel like normal as Denius Fields revert from a massive area where makeshift weight rooms were crafted for the purposes of social distancing back to the turf where Texas will prepare for a still-to-be-determined season opener. With practice upon the Longhorns, Horns247 is examining a series of burning questions for various sections of the squad with a look at the defensive line.

1. Can Ossai’s production match expectations?

A nine-tackle, six-tackle-for-loss, three-sack performance in the Alamo Bowl provided a tease of not only what Joseph Ossai could’ve accomplished in 2019 if he had been put in a position to maximize his ability to rush the passer, but it set the stage for a potentially monster 2020. The way interim defensive coordinator Craig Naivar used Ossai on New Year’s Eve in a 38-10 win over Utah is similar to what Ossai will be asked to do on a more consistent basis from the hybrid JACK position in Chris Ash’s defense.

Tim Crowder, a former Texas All-American defensive lineman who trains college and NFL athletes in the offseason, worked with Ossai and other Longhorns over a weekend during a recent defensive line retreat. From talking to Ossai and understanding the intricacies of Ash’s defense from afar, Crowder is expecting Ossai to be predominantly stand-up defensive end deployed in a similar manner to how legendary defensive minds Dom Capers and Dick LeBeau would use their pass-rush specialists off the edge.

“They’re really going use him the right way,” Crowder told Horns247 via an interview on Light The Tower on Austin’s 104.9 FM The Horn. “They drop him sometimes, they may not, but I’ll tell you one thing: he’s going to be rushing the quarterback 99 percent of the time, which is great.” The frustration of watching Ossai taking deep coverage drops on critical downs where he wasn’t asked to try and disrupt the quarterback appear to be left in 2019 with the previous scheme.

If the Alamo Bowl was indeed a preview of things to come, Ossai should have such an impact on games that he’s unlikely to go from the fourth game of the season to the bowl game without a sack.

2. How much will the players be helped by the change to a four-man front?

“It’s kind of like you’ve been in prison for 12 years and all of a sudden they just set you free,” said Crowder when asked what the difference is for defensive linemen who go from playing in an odd front, which Todd Orlando preferred, to the four-man front Ash utilizes.

Even though Ash’s front isn’t a four-down alignment in the traditional sense due to the function of the JACK as a hybrid defender, the down linemen in the new scheme play shades allowing them to be one-gap penetrators. That’s the opposite of what the Longhorns were asked to previously, where playing head-up on offensive linemen or shaded (like the end playing 4i shades on the inside shoulder of the offensive tackle) in ways more conducive to occupying blockers rather than getting up the field.

“You’re imprisoned by that three-down front because you just are — it’s three versus five,” Crowder said. “Everybody’s getting double-teamed across the board, so what they try to do to skew the numbers, they try to bring linebackers to get pressure. They try to bring nickels and safeties and get pressure. I’m just like, ‘Hey coach, I’m a D-lineman. Get me on the edge. That’s what I’m here for. Why would you tell me to do something else? Let me rush.’”

Ash, Oscar Giles and Mark Hagen are going to let their guys rush, which is one of the biggest reasons why Herman hired Ash to replace Orlando and made room on the staff for Hagen to help Giles coach in the trenches. The head coach wants more consistent disruption from his down linemen on early downs rather than relying on blitzing to get the job done, which is what the new scheme is going to allow a deep, talented group to do. “I’m just glad they’re letting those guys pin those ears back,” Crowder said.

3. Is Coburn’s weight a concern?

Before Crowder put Keondre Coburn through the paces, he had the redshirt sophomore nose tackle go through a weigh-in. Coburn’s body looked like he’d slimmed down since the last time Crowder saw him, which made it all the more shocking to see the number on the scale. “He looked about 325,” Crowder said. “I said, ‘Man, you’ve lost weight.’ Then he got on the scale and the thing said 350. I was like, ‘Woah!’ I said, ‘Man, you still look good though. Let’s see how you move out there.’”

Horns247’s Chip Brown recently reported that Coburn arrived on campus in June after everyone had time away from the program due to the pandemic at over 360 pounds, Crowder said Coburn passed all of his movement drills during the workout “with flying colors.” Texas coaches reportedly want Coburn under 330 pounds by the time the season, but Crowder said Coburn was moving like a couple of bigger linemen he played with — Frank Okam and Marcus Tubbs — who didn’t tip the scales in their day the way Coburn does currently.

“This kid is 350 and moving like those guys,” Crowder said. “That’s impressive. To see him in this type of scheme they’re about to run where they’re getting up the field, that’s scary. That’s really scary.”

4. Will Graham be a good fit in the new scheme?

In Orlando’s three-man front, Ta'Quon Graham became the prototype for the kind linemen the defensive aimed to find on the recruiting trail. A high school defensive end who was able to fill his body out to over 300 pounds with the athleticism to play multiple shades, Graham was an ideal fit as a defensive end in a three-man front. Crowder thought the same thing, which is why didn’t know if going to a four-man line with Graham shifting from a 4i end to a three-technique tackle would be a beneficial move. Nevertheless, after watching Graham, Crowder believes the best is yet to come from the most experienced member of the defensive line (14 starts in 39 career games played).

“After seeing him the day that we worked, I told him, ‘Dude, you should have a big year.’ I forgot that he played defensive end in high school. He’s basically a defensive end, he’s just moving inside. I loved the way he was bending — his ankle mobility was good, which I told him to work on this offseason. He understood the game, he understood the feel for pass rushing and he seemed more natural in this scheme.”

No longer charged with primarily holding up blockers for oncoming linebackers and safeties, Graham has a chance to show that he can be the kind of interior disruptor NFL franchises can’t have enough of in the fold. Graham has the tools to play beyond the Forty Acres, but it’s clear now that scheme won’t be the reason for a lack of production should his presence not be felt on the field.

5. Which one of the newcomers will make a splash?

It’s hard to imagine a starting defensive line featuring anyone other than Ossai (JACK), Coburn (nose), Graham (tackle) and Marqez Bimage (end). Nevertheless, Texas has plenty of depth and a second line of returning Longhorns — a mix of Byron Vaughns, T'Vondre Sweat, Myron Warren, Moro Ojomo and Jacoby Jones — backing up the starters is a group a few other head coaches in the conference would love to have to make up their No. 1 group. It’s not a given, however, that those linemen remain where they’re currently projected on the depth chart.

Sawyer Goram-Welch and Vernon Broughton were on campus for winter conditioning and have drawn rave reviews throughout the offseason for their work ethic. Alfred Collins wasn’t with them prior to the pandemic closing campus, but the 247Sports five-star prospect from the 2020 signing class is a player the coaches reportedly feel can play multiple shades and Herman said shortly after Collins signed that the Bastrop Cedar Creek product is going to play early in his career.

What kind of upside does Collins possess? Crowder searched long and hard to find a physical comparison for the 6-foot-5-inch Collins before settling on one of the best edge defenders to ever don cleats and shoulder pads. “The best comparison I can give to him is Bruce Smith,” Crowder said. “I’ve heard he’s up to 295, 300 pounds now, but it’s not fat at all. I heard they’re going to leave him at defensive end, which is what I hope they do for him because he’s the type of kid that can be 305, 310, but he’s still going to run a 4.7.”

That might sound like an unreachable ceiling, but Crowder’s opinion is supported by the fact that he views Collins as a rare athlete long the defensive front. “He’s got the greatest gift for a defensive lineman, which is ankle and hip flexibility,” he added. “He can bend down and touch the ground without breaking stride and that’s what Bruce Smith had. It’s hard to teach bend like that and the guy can bend like (Denver Broncos legendary edge rusher) Von Miller at 305. That’s what makes him special.”

 

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42 minutes ago, BurdineBandit said:

They can't prevent the players from being young men. I Uber'd a veteran skill player to a Riverside apartment complex 2 weeks ago. He was meeting up a girl. I have 0 confidence that these young men are disciplined enough to keep themselves away from parties and/or young women for 4 months. I just hope enough of them do that we get football, because I'm selfish and it's my favorite time of the year.

Time to dispatch the Surly investigative team. We need pics!

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Maybe the partiers (athletes and other students) are mostly immune by now. Gotta watch out for the sheltered ones who can finally break loose from their suffocating families. Only expecting 50% campus population so I guess that will help

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(Eric Nahlin) Humidor: Camp begins! More commitments coming? Improving recruiting relationships.

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TEAM

The first day of camp is today, with practice taking place mid-morning. The typical day is your standard regimented schedule of meals, meetings, treatment, practice, film, walk-throughs, etc. I do think I’m picking up on an added emphasis on special teams. The big story lines heading into camp are the OC/RT relationship and getting the linebacker situation ironed out. In past years, we were following similar developments because there weren’t enough bodies or talent. This season is different in that depth and ability are in place but experience isn’t.

If you guessed the offensive line will be Cosmi-Angilau-Kerstetter-Johnson-Okafor, you might be right. We have sources who think similarly. But Herb Hand will work with a number of combinations, including the one we outlined last week of Cosmi-Angilau-Ghirmai-Imade-Kerstetter. Reminder: Take early Texas provided depth charts with a Coburn-sized grain of salt.

We think UT will add Arizona grad transfer Tony Fields (see below) to the linebacker corps. Right now the starters are DeMarvion Overshown and Juwan Mitchell. Those guys won’t likely be replaced by anyone currently on the roster. If Fields arrives we’ll see competition to be the two best linebackers. It’s not a sure thing he replaces Mitchell by any stretch. Overshown is new to the position and hasn’t proven to be able to stay healthy. We could end up seeing a leaner, faster Mitchell at Will and Fields at Mike.

We’ve been asked about Marcus Tillman a few times. He’s back and working out but not where he was pre-injury. He’s being groomed to be the Mike of the future while David Gbenda is the Will.

With new offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich comes some subtle changes and some not-so-subtle. One not-so-subtle change is the over-reliance on the slot receiver. All too often we saw Texas get vapor lock when Devin Duvernay was taken away. You are going to see a much more varied offense this season. To fully unlock the passing game, Texas will need outside receivers to step up. Brennan Eagles has been mentioned a lot, but what about Marcus Washington? “The word is he was making a lot of plays in 7 on 7 with the team, and not just hitches and short routes. He was winning over the top.”

How did this come about? “He’s definitely faster. He’s competitive. When it comes to running drills he makes sure to compete with Jake Smith. You can tell he was working while away from campus too.” As the team begins camp and rounds into form, we hope to provide an accurate depiction of how that’s taking place. By September 12th you guys should have a decent idea of what to expect. Remember defensive concerns heading into last year? We don’t anticipate those.

As for when the season will begin, it’s 95 percent certain (barring Covid factors) Texas will open up on September 12th versus UTEP. Where it gets interesting is this: we’ve heard the home and away scheduling will stay the same, but the sequence of games is still not set in stone. Meaning: Kansas State may not be the second game. It may in fact stay the same, but they may be looking to rearrange the schedule for TV purposes or other factors. Something to watch for.

STATE OF RECRUITING

Texas’ 2021 class has found a nice groove of late with Recent additions Gunnar Helm and Mike Myslinski, the second tight end for the cycle and first offensive line pledge since last summer. That beat might continue as a pair of targets could be nearing their decision. First up is Pompano Beach (FL) Monarch wide receiver Jaden Alexis, who could finally be ready to pull the trigger. The three-star with four-star offers and five-star speed has quietly held the Horns in the highest regard since before the summer.

The speed is verified: 4.41 forty, 10.7 100m, and 22.27 200m. Almost 900 yards in the air on 49 catches with eight touchdowns means he puts his explosiveness to good use. At the onset of the cycle we mentioned the need for speed. Here is the staff addressing that need. Miami, Georgia, Notre Dame, and Penn State are UT’s top competition, but we feel like those schools are all looking up at the Horns.

The Monarch student body president and son of former NFL running back Rich Alexis, Jaden has a tremendous relationship with Andre Coleman and speaks with Tom Herman and Mike Yurcich regularly. We’re hearing he could make an announcement very soon, maybe this weekend, and that should satisfy some of the IT brethren who crave that God-given speed.

On the other side of the ball, Arizona grad transfer linebacker Tony Fields II is another potential commitment we’re eyeing. The 6-foot-2, 205-pound tackling machine has a reported top 3 of Texas, Minnesota, and West Virginia. He took in the sights of Austin on Wednesday. Fields started every game for the last three seasons — 37 consecutive at Will linebacker for the Wildcats — while accumulating 287 tackles, 17 tackles for loss, 8.5 sacks, six pass-break ups, and two interceptions. Durable, lunch-pail level stuff.

At first, it appeared PJ Fleck was rowing in the right direction in this pursuit, giving the Golden Gophers the early advantage. A pair of Fields’ high school teammates play for Minnesota and Minny was missing a starter. However, we don’t think Minnesota is in play any more. In fact we’ve heard that. He thoroughly enjoyed his midweek trek through the ATX and there’s some optimism among the Texas staff.

Bottom line: If UT lands Fields, Chris Adimora deserves an assist. He served as concierge on the visit. The two know each other from being West Coast football players (Las Vegas is West Coast when it comes to football). We have this as a Big 12 matchup between UT and WVU, with the nod going to UT. Word is Fields is tired of losing at Arizona (that ol’ Sumblin) and thinks UT is primed to break out. So, what’s the hold up? Camp starts today and he’s already behind. Is he going home to grab his bug-out bag and turn right back around? Maybe he’s still in town and we just haven’t heard. Those final details are a bit hazy. We’re all predicting UT but not confirming it.

On Ryan Lengyel, the three-star offensive tackle from Dallas Jesuit tells IT he wants to make a decision around August 10th. That’s his hope, and if Texas decides to take him, it won’t be another 12 months between OL commitments. Let’s make sure the narrative is accurate here. He’s not seen as a savior of any sort. He’s seen as a long-term investment with tackle upside and guard versatility. They love his competitiveness and think he fared well against stiff competition. They like his frame upside as well. Should he be a take in this loaded cycle this early in the calendar? That’s probably the better question rather than can the kid play at Texas in 2023-2024?

Texas is picking up steam with Royse City four-star wideout Ketron Jackson. Ever since his trip to Austin two weeks ago, he’s been talking up UT within his circle. It certainly helps when 7-on-7 teammate Phaizon Wilson, UT’s first 2022 verbal pledge, remains close to him. Arkansas and TCU remain in the sweepstakes, and I don’t think a decision is approaching, but I do believe the Horns prioritized him at the right time. Stay the course, UT staff.

Outside of Quinn Ewers, there may not be an offensive player the Texas staff covets more in the 2022 class than Frisco Liberty’s Evan Stewart. According to a source in DFW, Stewart is in constant contact with Texas, and that has the Longhorns continuing to trend in the right direction. "Evan is talking to Texas more than anyone else," said the source. "He likes what he's hearing."

Longhorns OC Mike Yurcich and WR coach Andre Coleman are laser focused on building relationships with people in the circle of Stewart, fellow 2022 class member Armani Winfield from Lewisville, and 2021 J.J. Henry from McKinney. This is very important, and imperative for the new staff members, as the Oklahoma staff has done a better job of this at the wide receiver position in DFW in recent classes. The focused work of Yurcich and Coleman falls in line with information relayed to me at the Elite Underclassmen Showcase in Durant, OK in mid-July. I was told that Coleman has done a quality job of building a strong relationship with Henry and his father, per a source close to Henry’s recruitment. Throughout that conversation, Texas wasn’t the school mentioned the most with Henry.

The main question regarding Henry and Texas is what happens if Jaden Alexis picks the Longhorns first? Do the Longhorns shift focus to bigger WR’s at that point? While Henry has his fans at IT, including on the writing staff, we’re not working within the same constraints of building a class. To be clear, the staff likes Henry a lot but we’re beginning to wonder about numbers at receiver.

Texas isn’t one to offer many 2023 prospects this early, but keep an eye out on Del Valle three-sport budding star Bryalon James. The 6-foot-3, 175-pound receiver is positioned to pick up an offer from Texas after a game or two this season, if not before. Kansas became the first Power 5 to offer the Stony Point transfer on August 4.

 

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4 hours ago, satyanash said:

(Chip Brown) Morning Brew: Five storylines as fall camp starts

 

 

4 hours ago, satyanash said:

Jeff Howe: Burning camp questions for the Texas defensive line

 

Have we had an offseason yet where Josh Thompson and Taquon Graham weren't ready to have a huge year?  I swear we've heard this about both 4 years in a row. 

 

4 hours ago, satyanash said:

It’s hard to imagine a starting defensive line featuring anyone other than Ossai (JACK), Coburn (nose), Graham (tackle) and Marqez Bimage (end)

Is it though? I think both Sweat and Ojomo could easily be starters by end of fall camp or at least during the season.  I could easily see our best DL being Ossai, Coburn, Sweat, Ojomo. 

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No need to rush players back too quickly...

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Article/Texas-Longhorns-football-injury-update-Jordan-Whittington-Prince-Dorbah-limited-to-start-fall-camp-149981094/

Injury update: Jordan Whittington limited to open fall camp

By. TAYLOR ESTES      3 hours ago

Texas officially kicked off fall camp Friday morning as the Longhorns approach the upcoming football season. Fourth-year head coach Tom Herman hosted a Zoom call with local media following Day 1 of preseason practice and delivered the latest injury update on the Longhorns.  As Horns247 has reported over the last few weeks, redshirt freshman wide receiver Jordan Whittington suffered a hamstring injury during summer workouts and was limited to open fall camp Friday. In addition to Whittington, true freshman linebacker Prince Dorbah was also limited in Friday’s practice.

“Every scholarship player was full go today except for Prince Dorbah and Jordan Whittington,” Herman said in a Zoom call with local media after Friday’s practice. “They both went through individuals but were held out of team drills.”    According to the head coach, the hope is both Whittington and Dorbah are expected to be cleared to return to practice next week.

Whittington's injury is not great news for Texas as the redshirt freshman is expected to be a difference maker for the Longhorns this season after he missed the entire 2019 season when he re-aggravated a groin injury he first suffered in high school and had surgically repaired prior to enrolling at Texas. Whittington has since underwent two other surgeries to repair his groin injury, a follow-up surgery in September and then another in December, and was among the group of players who were standing out in summer workouts prior to suffering the latest injury to his hamstring.

Whittington initially dealt with the issue ahead of his senior season at Cuero High School before he led the Gobblers to the Class 4A Division II state championship in a performance where scored six total touchdowns and broke a UIL all-conference rushing record set by former Texas running back Johnathan Gray and the Class 4A title game record set by Eric Dickerson with 334 rushing yards. Although the issue is something Whittington dealt with throughout last year's preseason practice, Herman previously indicated there was not much thought given to Whittington getting to the point of needing another surgery.

That changed in Week 1 of the 2019 season.  The RB played in just one game during his true freshman campaign in the season opener against Louisiana Tech when he registered two receptions for 17 yards in the Week 1 win. Those would end up being the final snaps he would play during his first year on the Forty Acres after he tore his adductor muscle off the bone when he was tackled on his second reception.

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48 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

Sounds like he may have quickly realized he's been recruited over.

The BON article on this made sure to remind everybody that we lost Mike Williams to LSU a year or so ago--like this was a trend. I can't find Williams on the LSU roster at all, let alone on the 2- or 3-deep. Don't  know what happened to him. With Williams, I'm tempted to say not that much of a loss. Don't know what we'll say about Warren in a year or so.

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Looks like Gerry Hamilton has some good intel on the team. This is what he said just a few days ago about Myron Warren. 

"Likes Warren as a player, but will be surprised if he ever develops into a multi-year starter. Good depth piece that could be a later career starter. Came into Texas with more development needed in terms of technique and physically than others on the DL."

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