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9 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Why does @Fozzz refuse to disassociate with QAnon?
 

Nobody wants to admit they’ve been fooled by pranksters from 8chan.   I have the same issue with an in-law.   I’ve discussed it with them,I’ve pointed out where Qanon started, that it’s not had any actual revelations, that it’s partly for the lulz, and part money-making scheme, that it claims it needs to use encryption, to protect itself from the government, but then passes out the keys so that Edna in Buttfuck, Iowa, and Wilma in Pig Swallow, Tennessee are able to read the messages, even though they both think PGP hosts golf tournaments. They’ve acknowledged it came out of one of the chans, but they don’t want to admit it’s a prank, so they double down with the “q is just using them as a proxy.”

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52 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

lol 😂 people negging my posts on the football board now. Deep down each of you know that while the Republicans are evil they are serious about power while the Dems are visionless, feckless pussies. 

Yeah.. rep worrying is for pussies but I’ll let you sniff check your total like your mom does before she gets plowed; so what were you at on the morning of 9/18/2020? And what are you at, at the same time on 9/19/2020? Just asking questions...

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1 hour ago, RPM said:

RIP to a great woman. Now somebody hold me, I haz scared. This is a worst case scenario.

Cruz and Mitch’s statements tonight about pushing through a vote says two things:

  1. They do not think Trump will win
  2. They are unsure whether the Rs will keep the Senate or not.  

This is going to give the Ds a lot of votes, and cost the Rs some seats.  If Mitch had any confidence in Trump and the GOP, he’d absolutely call the D’s bluff bluff and delay any votes until January.  

At the very least, he would wait to see how the election goes.    If he’s willing to have a vote before the election, then he thinks the election is going to be really bad for the Rs, and that the nomination will have no positive impact for Republicans running  for office/re-election.  

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4 minutes ago, thepop said:

Mark Kelly being sworn in on November 30 does make things interesting.

Which is why I think Mitch will push it through very soon.   He has no confidence in the elections.  And Kelly coming in then, with multiple Rs potentially sounding like they will not support it, puts Mitch in a bind.  And Trump will burn the GOP down on his way out.

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6 hours ago, Jester said:

TLDR: fuck term limits for SC Justices. 

Lifetime appointment is the one thing that keeps the SC honest.

Look. A good judge is a good judge. They don’t let politics into play. They apply the law. To. The. Facts. I know. Novel concept, right?

I’ve been in front of great “republican” judges and great “democrat“ judges. Then those great judges get washed out in the next blue/red wave for no reason. It sucks and I wish judges didn’t have run on a political ticket.

If there are term limits...the SC is gonna be a grifter factory. “Hey, rule this way and in 10 years and I’ll put you in the board of company X paying Y million a year”.  It would be fucking terrible  

 

I get your point and understand there are downsides.  But do lifetime appointment SC judges get washed out in the next blue/red wave?  They don't.  If every President were guaranteed let's say 2 appointments to the bench with the oldest serving members being retired then at least we can maintain some sense that the makeup of the court matches, to some extend, the current will of the people (in an indirect way).  Can the same be said now, even remotely?  I don't think so.  Right now it's a crap shoot (fuck you cancer!) but the GOP has figured out how to game the system better by nominating and getting seated much younger SC judges who will be in place for decades.  If the only Dem response is to do the same then we have a race to the bottom to nominate the least qualified, ideologically pure candidates who a given side (Dem or GOP) thinks will toe the line for a few decades to come.  I'm not sure how that makes for a better outcome for the country.

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3 hours ago, 27-25 said:

I get your point and understand there are downsides.  But do lifetime appointment SC judges get washed out in the next blue/red wave?  They don't.  If every President were guaranteed let's say 2 appointments to the bench with the oldest serving members being retired then at least we can maintain some sense that the makeup of the court matches, to some extend, the current will of the people (in an indirect way).  Can the same be said now, even remotely?  I don't think so.  Right now it's a crap shoot (fuck you cancer!) but the GOP has figured out how to game the system better by nominating and getting seated much younger SC judges who will be in place for decades.  If the only Dem response is to do the same then we have a race to the bottom to nominate the least qualified, ideologically pure candidates who a given side (Dem or GOP) thinks will toe the line for a few decades to come.  I'm not sure how that makes for a better outcome for the country.

As with all things, the problem isn’t with the SC, it’s with the senate. The senate no longer functions as intended. The only laws it passes are largely for the majority. They usually approve appointments on party lines. Simple majority and our partisan divide has broken that part of congress. 

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The over reaction in this thread on all sides is really something to behold. The world didn’t end when Obama was elected, the world didn’t end when trump was elected, and the world won’t end whether or not a SC justice is put in before Election Day. 

Everyone should take a deep breath, grab a beer and watch college football this weekend. Three and half months left until 2021 and hopefully someone presses the reset button or blows in our Nintendo cartridge.
 

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You and the traitors like you. Our country deserves better. This is war. History has judged you accordingly. The sooner we accept this horrible reality the better our country will be bc we can start to heal from the short term pain that will come. 
Okay Karen. You'll be fine with 4 more years on non socialism.
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20 minutes ago, markstanco said:
5 hours ago, achooloco said:
You and the traitors like you. Our country deserves better. This is war. History has judged you accordingly. The sooner we accept this horrible reality the better our country will be bc we can start to heal from the short term pain that will come. 

Okay Karen. You'll be fine with 4 more years on non socialism.

Maybe if you shitbags actually cut taxes to match.

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7 hours ago, ROFL BOX said:

I just did my part by donating to the Amy McGrath for Kentucky US Senate campaign.

Because fuck Mitch McConnell.

If even by $ 5.00, will any of y'all join me?25af8745a1ec0bf332dda6f9a3ce66ac.jpg261b03137ba25abfc90218999d4915c9.jpg

Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk
 

Good job. If you decide to donate more, spend it on other Senate races.

McGrath is already flush with cash and one of the weaker D candidates. 

 

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37 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

The over reaction in this thread on all sides is really something to behold. The world didn’t end when Obama was elected, the world didn’t end when trump was elected, and the world won’t end whether or not a SC justice is put in before Election Day. 

Tell that to women and the LGBTQ community. Their livelihoods are on the line with another conservative judge on the SC. 

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Just now, Homercles said:

I hadn’t really followed politics closely until we elected a mush grained geriatric hate machine to office...but isn’t it unusual for a 4-year administration to get to choose 3 fucking justices?  

Yes and this possibility was fairly well posited/discussed during the campaign season.

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12 minutes ago, Homercles said:

I thought so.  Thanks.  Makes me ragey.  I don’t have a huge dog in that fight as I’m not a ‘minority’, woman or gay, but I want them to have equal rights to myself and not have the government dictate how they can treat their bodies...and think it’s ridiculous how strongly some people want to meddle in the lives of others while screaming about socialism.  

I wonder how many heads would explode if you went to a Trump rally with a sign that says:

“Defund Socialism!  (This includes the police, Medicare, Social Security, and The University of Texas)”

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12 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

Dotard announced names for the court just a few days ago. We should have realized then that he had inside info that she was on her deathbed. I thought it was just re-election politics. No, he knew she was dying. 

yeah, i just had this horrifying thought. he knew. and he was celebrating.

i'm sick. fuck all republicans forever

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9 hours ago, Celery Man said:

Sure why not. If we're playing fucking Calvinball then lets play Calvinball.

I’m reqouting Celery Man this morning, because of how perfect and succinct this is.  The GOP is playing Calvinball.  There are no rules anymore. 
 

Who have you chucklefucks donated to this morning now that the whiskey has worn off?

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11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Let's stop with the conservative stuff, it's an insult to those of us who were actually conservatives - this is pure 100% Republican, and not all Republicans are conservatives.  

What you are talking about is also the easiest way to motivate a lot of people to vote against a Republican.  There's a fuck-ton of people in this country, who do not vote for one reason or another.  Pushing a Ted Cruz or whoever is not going to get them out to vote for the Rs.  But it will provide fodder for the Ds, the moderates, the independents.

Prior to Trump, for 8 years, our President was a Half-Black, Muslim, Atheist, Socialist, Marxist, Communist homosexual who was born in Kenya and raised exclusively in Indonesia until he lived in Hawaii, which, we all know why it wasn't a state until 1959, nudge nudge, wink wink, and he then he was a "community organizer" from that sleazy little town known as Chicago.

He had no problems beating a war hero in 2008 (albeit with the help of W and Sexy Librarian running mate), and he had no problem beating the Mormon with the bland running mate in 2012.

And keep in mind, Trump needed Hillary Clinton at the top of the (D) ticket, and he still fucking lost the popular vote.

RBG is the kind of thing to get a whole shitload of those people that had no problem electing a Half-Black, Muslim...etc....etc...etc. (insert everything I mentioned above), out to vote.  Hillary ain't on the ticket anymore.

That’s not a bad point. There are ~800,000 more registered Democrats in pa than there are republicans. This might be something that gets some of them out to vote. 

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How specifically?

Thankfully RBG was here for the employment discrimination case but with a conservative court I can be denied housing, loans, insurance and certainly closeted Republicans can get creative here with more to add to the list simply because I’m trans and the same for my plain vanilla gay brothers and sisters.

 

And the moral outrage on abortion? spare us all. Your daughters get abortions at the same rate as everyone else.

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2 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

My prediction. Even if they push through conservative judge, Roe v Wade will not be reversed in any substantial way. 
 

The fact that we even have to make a prediction is a huge problem. 

Also, define "in any substantial way". 

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14 hours ago, Mole said:

I don’t know if there’s a good solution, but there’s something broken about our system here. It seems cruel that she felt that she needed to stay on the court through all of this and it seems cruel that her dying wish was a political one. I don’t blame or begrudge her; it makes sense given the way our system works, but it’s somehow broken. I’m probably doing a poor job of articulating my thoughts.

While I agree the system is broken, she should have stepped down years ago. That’s on her.

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19 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

My prediction. Even if they push through conservative judge, Roe v Wade will not be reversed in any substantial way. 
 

Now how are we coming after livelihood of gay community?

Reversed?  No, probably not.  But permitting state regulations that make it nearly impossible to get an abortion in the Fifth Circuit and elsewhere, yes.

I think the recent pro-LGBTQ decisions are too recent to be reversed.  Will there be incursions against their rights?  Most probably, or at least attempts.

A switch in time saves nine.  It is possible, friends and neighbors.

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1 hour ago, markstanco said:
7 hours ago, achooloco said:
You and the traitors like you. Our country deserves better. This is war. History has judged you accordingly. The sooner we accept this horrible reality the better our country will be bc we can start to heal from the short term pain that will come. 

Okay Karen. You'll be fine with 4 more years on non socialism.

Says the guy that most probably took that free socialist handout also called the PPP loan for his failing o&g business but you never hear that kinda talk from the right.  Corporate socialism is the only acceptable kind of socialism for the right because it’ll all trickle down...

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31 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

My prediction. Even if they push through conservative judge, Roe v Wade will not be reversed in any substantial way. 
 

Now how are we coming after livelihood of gay community?

Roe v Wade won't be "reversed," i.e. abortion won't be made federally illegal.  The decision will just be struck down so that abortion legality will get kicked back to the states  And then it'll be made illegal throughout the entire Deep South and a lot of girls who can't afford to drive a thousand miles will have unsafe "back alley" abortions and some of them will die.  And, ironically, all of you good Christian Republicans don't give a solitary fuck about that.

And I wouldn't say Republicans are going after the livelihood of the gay community.  But y'all sure aren't big fans of them having the same civil rights that you and I do, as if they're human beings or something.

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