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Just now, Kyle said:

Put me down for "I had no ideas Armenia had jets."

Former Soviet Republic.  Most of those have a few leftover from the Soviets, given as parting gifts.  ESPECIALLY if they let the Russians keep military bases there (which Armenia has done).  But yeah....they're leftovers, crumbs.  Nobody is cowering in fear of the great Armenian air force.

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2 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

it’s mostly guys in track suits driving 10-15 year old BMWs that have salvaged titles. 

You.....are not lying.

A shitload of the luxury brand cars with salvage title in Europe end up in Armenia.  It's much more important to them to drive a car with a prestige brand than to drive a new and reliable car.

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Know a couple of guys at the Lancaster Airport here in the DFW area that had their own L-29/39s.  You can get almost anything in that part of the world.  Mig-21/23's.  No problem.  Obviously guns are removed, and they are dissembled, and arrive in giant sea crates, but the 39's were less than $30K each.  Once they are assembled and certified, have fun.  I got to go up in a 39 for a little while while they were getting their hours in.  Also have old T6 Trainers out there as well that have been completely restored.  

They have the Cold War Air Museum, so tons of cool vintage planes/helicopters that tour the state

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5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The people we met there were nice, but many were quite poor.  They were quite flattered that we were there to explore their country and culture, and like most anyone, they were proud to show it off.  But it was clear that they depend on other countries for a lot -- tourism from Iran, investment (and control) from Russia, subsidies from China (looking to expand the Belt and Road project).

You know you are at the bottom of the rung when you are relying on Iran for tourism..."and if you go around the corner there, you will find a nice little uranium shop".

Also, the Kardashians need to step up with some financial backing for their motherland (actually fatherland). They are probably worth more than the entire GDP of that place.

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Just now, sunset87 said:

You know you are at the bottom of the rung when you are relying on Iran for tourism..."and if you go around the corner there, you will find a nice little uranium shop".

They make money off the Iranians the same way that other countries make money off of vacationing Saudis -- they can cross the border, and booze it up, and get debauched (which would get them decapitated at home).  Yerevan: the Las Vegas of middle-class Iranians!

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2 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

Know a couple of guys at the Lancaster Airport here in the DFW area that had their own L-29/39s.  You can get almost anything in that part of the world.  Mig-21/23's.  No problem.  Obviously guns are removed, and they are dissembled, and arrive in giant sea crates, but the 39's were less than $30K each.  Once they are assembled and certified, have fun.  I got to go up in a 39 for a little while while they were getting their hours in.  Also have old T6 Trainers out there as well that have been completely restored.  

They have the Cold War Air Museum, so tons of cool vintage planes/helicopters that tour the state

Cold War Air Museum

Visited with one of the proprietors once. They have two operable Hinds, a Cobra, a Huey, a MiG 21, some Hips and various other Russian trainers. It was very cool. 

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Former Soviet Republic.  Most of those have a few leftover from the Soviets, given as parting gifts.  ESPECIALLY if they let the Russians keep military bases there (which Armenia has done).  But yeah....they're leftovers, crumbs.  Nobody is cowering in fear of the great Armenian air force.

Plus the Serbs will always sell off their old shit. The Bosnians who first stood up to the vaunted JNA mostly wore track suits and ran around with whatever fucked up hunting/ww2 weapon their grandfathers gave them. 

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14 hours ago, Bobby_Batronic said:

Visited with one of the proprietors once. They have two operable Hinds, a Cobra, a Huey, a MiG 21, some Hips and various other Russian trainers. It was very cool. 

A couple of the 29's were donated by two friends of mine.  Years back they went over, picked a few out ($20K+ each) with the intention of flipping them for 6-figures each (which in a normal market is viable).  Then the '07-'08 recession hit and they lost their asses.  Got a tax break by donating, but that's it.  I spent hours with them putting them together before I quit going out with them.  

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2 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

A couple of the 29's were donated by two friends of mine.  Years back they went over, picked a few out ($20K+ each) with the intention of flipping them for 6-figures each (which in a normal market is viable).  Then the '07-'08 recession hit and they lost their asses.  Got a tax break by donating, but that's it.  I spent hours with them putting them together before I quit going out with them.  

The sickening part was the third operable Hind that was destroyed by the truck driver more interested in hitting the porn store than observing overpass heights.

Our plane had a mx issue that day and it was a cool way to kill of couple of hours.  

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Just now, Bobby_Batronic said:

The sickening part was the third operable Hind that was destroyed by the truck driver more interested in hitting the porn store than observing overpass heights.

Our plane had a mx issue that day and it was a cool way to kill of couple of hours.  

One of the guys, his dad was a former Braniff pilot so he's always been into planes.  The jet ride was "ok".  Up really fast, few banks, few passes, etc.  The ride in the T6 was bananas.  Guy was a former crop dusting pilot and flies in the since renamed Confederate Airforce.  My backseat instructions were hold on, and don't touch the stick. 

We get up to a few thousands feet, then I hear a "hang on", and we dive bomb the runway.  I have a screen saver on my desktop of the bottom of the plane pulling out of a dive and maybe 15ft off the deck.  Then we get back to altitude, do 4 consecutive loops, then level off and do 4 more.  Ruined any roller coaster for the rest of my life.  Man that was fun.  

*and I might have been doing a little shit talking before getting in the plane

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Azerbaijan has joined the chat:

Armenia said on Saturday it would use “all necessary means” to protect ethnic Armenians from attack by Azerbaijan, which said its forces had captured a string of villages in fighting over the mountain enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh.

Ignoring a French attempt to mediate, the opposing sides pounded each other with rockets and missiles for a seventh day in the newest flare-up of a decades-old conflict that threatens to draw in Russia and Turkey.

The death toll rose to at least 230 in the fighting over Nagorno-Karabakh, an ethnic Armenian enclave inside Azerbaijan that broke away from its control in the 1990s.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-armenia-azerbaijan/azerbaijan-claims-advances-in-karabakh-armenia-vows-historic-struggle-idUSKBN26O0GH

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