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If he relapses, we the public will know. There are two kinds of addicts, those that can hide it well (closet addicts) and those that can't handle themselves at all. Pretty obvious from the experiences in Washington and especially SC,Dark After Dark is terrible at hiding it. I could tell he was shit-faced just watching him coach on TV.
frank erwin did ok and he was shitfaced about 99% of the time
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Count me as one who is growing optimistic after an initial meh feeling about the hire. I feel like the talent level on the team is good enough that we shouldn’t have to try to use “well he need x years to get HIS guys in” before we can expect a high level of play. I feel like as a coordinator he’s going to need to look around and hopefully bring in a great staff from the get go instead of bringing his bros and asking for a mulligan when they fail.
I’ve always felt there are probably a lot of guys who could do well here, but you have to be able to recruit well and have to bring in the right staff early on because this is not a fan base forgiving of bad decisions and hubris.

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On 1/5/2021 at 7:46 PM, MrPhlegm said:
On 1/3/2021 at 12:51 PM, Kurt Bowels said:
If he relapses, we the public will know. There are two kinds of addicts, those that can hide it well (closet addicts) and those that can't handle themselves at all. Pretty obvious from the experiences in Washington and especially SC,Dark After Dark is terrible at hiding it. I could tell he was shit-faced just watching him coach on TV.

frank erwin did ok and he was shitfaced about 99% of the time

What was Erwin’s twitter handle??

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On 1/5/2021 at 7:46 PM, MrPhlegm said:
On 1/3/2021 at 12:51 PM, Kurt Bowels said:

 

frank erwin did ok and he was shitfaced about 99% of the time

Thanks for the compliment,  but when I'm shitfaced, it is outside the glare of the klieg lights.

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On 1/5/2021 at 7:46 PM, MrPhlegm said:
On 1/3/2021 at 12:51 PM, Kurt Bowels said:
If he relapses, we the public will know. There are two kinds of addicts, those that can hide it well (closet addicts) and those that can't handle themselves at all. Pretty obvious from the experiences in Washington and especially SC,Dark After Dark is terrible at hiding it. I could tell he was shit-faced just watching him coach on TV.

frank erwin did ok and he was shitfaced about 99% of the time

Frank was one of those politician lawyers that benefited from being "on retainer" while doing no legal work, before that kind of thing became frowned upon.

I'm not sure he had to do any real work other than bother people at UT, and generally be a professional sumbitch.

Alcoholics are well-suited to be professional sumbitches.  As long as their health holds out.  Erwin died at 60.

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Frank was one of those politician lawyers that benefited from being "on retainer" while doing no legal work, before that kind of thing became frowned upon.
I'm not sure he had to do any real work other than bother people at UT, and generally be a professional sumbitch.
Alcoholics are well-suited to be professional sumbitches.  As long as their health holds out.  Erwin died at 60.
good for him
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Joseph Cook: Sarkisian's hire marks a shift from decades of thinking

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The hire of Steve Sarkisian as head coach of the Texas football program is a significant shift from the school’s established hiring pattern. Sarkisian has head coaching experience, just like the last seven hires dating back to Darrell K Royal’s in 1957. But from Bill Juneau’s hire in 1917 to Tom Herman’s in 2016, Texas either promoted from within or hired another school’s head coach. Sarkisian is the first hire of another school’s assistant coach since UT hired Ralph Hutchinson from Princeton in 1902.

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As the chart shows, Hutchinson had previous head coaching experience at Dickinson and the Greensburg Athletic Association. When hired by Texas, Hutchinson was an assistant to Garrett Cochran, a former Princeton player.

There were several coaches over 100 years ago whose tenure at Texas was their first as a football coach. Their place in history is established in old copies of The Cactus and somewhere deep within university archives, but college football has changed significantly since their time. The Texas head coaching position is no longer given to those whose first game on the sidelines in Austin is their coaching debut.

Coaches also don’t make career moves like W.E. Metzenthin, who went from Texas head coach in 1908 to Texas assistant under Dexter Draper in 1909. Sarkisian stands out when looked at through a more modern lens. After 70 years of hiring sitting head coaches, Texas went a different direction with its most recent hire. Of course, there were cases such as Fred Akers and David McWilliams, Royal assistants who spent short stints away from the Forty Acres before ascending to the seat of their former boss.

Those two were the only Royal assistants who roamed the Royal-Memorial Stadium sidelines. From John Mackovic, to Mack Brown, to Charlie Strong, and Tom Herman, Texas looked elsewhere to find the next big thing, Herman’s Texas-Ex status notwithstanding. Sarkisian has never once worn the Longhorn prior to Tuesday, when he’ll relinquish Alabama offensive coordinator duties and “move up” to head coach, a first for a Longhorn head coach in almost 120 years.

Other Historical Tidbits

- @Scipio Tex gave historical background to many of these hires back in October. For a history lesson, I recommend looking back on what he wrote.

- Almost 120 years ago, John Hart went from playing halfback for the Yale Bulldogs to coaching Texas to a 6-3-1 record. Hart beat Oklahoma in the first game of the year, played Texas A&M to a scoreless tie, then was held scoreless against Texas A&M again in the final game of the year in a 12-0 loss. He did not return and never coached at the collegiate level again.

- David Allerdice’s 1914 Longhorns played eight games and surrendered 21 total points. They are recognized as the Billingsley Report’s national champions for the 1914 season when factoring in margin of victory, however the Billingsley Report’s regular ratings, which don’t use margin of victory, recognize Illinois as the 1914 champion. Both teams are worthy recipients; just as the Longhorns surrendered 21 total points in eight games, the Illini surrendered 22 and were Western Conference champions. Texas at the time was independent.

- Dana X. Bible led Texas to an 8-1-1 record in 1941, tying Baylor in Waco and losing 14-7 to TCU. Texas made up for it with wins over No. 2 Texas A&M at Kyle Field, and an end-of-season dismantling of Oregon in Austin. Texas finished second in the Southwest Conference behind the un-tied Aggies but finished five spots ahead of Homer Norton’s AMC team in the AP poll. Berryman and the Williamson System recognize Texas as 1941 national champions.

- 1914 and 1941 join 1968, 1977, and 1981 as national championships the school does not claim.

 

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Steve Sarkisian receives interesting answer from Charlie Strong about Texas

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Steve Sarkisian has one game left as Alabama’s offensive coordinator when the Crimson Tide take on the Ohio State Buckeyes in the national championship. Afterwards, Sarkisian begins his work with the Texas Longhorns as their new head coach.

While his full staff isn’t quite in place, one former Texas head coach had a bit of advice for Sarkisian. Charlie Strong, who’s a defensive analyst on the Alabama staff, talked with Sarkisian about the Texas job itself.

Sarkisian spoke to the media leading up to the national championship and revealed Strong’s epic response to asking about coaching the Longhorns.

“I also asked Sark if he’s talked with Charlie Strong, now on Alabama’s staff, about the job,” Brian Davis of the Austin American-Statesman tweeted. “‘Oh, Charlie said he loved Texas. Said you’ll do great there.’”

It seems there was a bit of comedy in Strong’s response considering he coached Texas from 2014-16 and compiled a 16-21 record before Texas relieved him of his duties. Strong rebounded at South Florida, going 21-16 but was fired after a 4-8 season in 2019. That’s when he joined the Alabama staff as a defensive analyst this season.

Last week, reports surfaced indicating Sarkisian was keeping a close eye on several staffers at Alabama to join forces as his Big 12 program. Offensive line coach Kyle Flood is reportedly leaving the Crimson Tide to lead up front while there are others who may follow suit.

Horns247's Chip Brown is reporting Oklahoma coach Dennis Simmons, one of Sarkisian's former teammates at BYU, is drawing major interest from the Texas side to take over in the same position — wide receivers coach.

Alabama head coach Nick Saban knows it’s a challenge for Sarkisian to manage both jobs, but appreciated Sarkisian’s efforts over the last week-plus.

Speaking with the media ahead of the national championship game, Saban had a glowing review of Sarkisian’s ability to manage both jobs at once for the time being.

Nick Saban: ‘I think our coaching staff has done a really good job working with our players,’” BamaOnline’s Charlie Potter tweeted. “‘Sark is the one guy that has shown great maturity, I think, in how he handled his situation. ... I have no complaints at all with the way our coaches have handled the situation.’”

Earlier in the week, Sarkisian spoke about his excitement for Texas but added that his priority is with Alabama and beating Ohio State to cap off the season.

“Clearly, I'm excited about the opportunity at Texas,” Sarkisian said in his championship game availability on Wednesday. “It's a tremendous one for me. Looking forward to getting started there. But the commitment I made to Coach Saban two years ago is the same commitment I've made to these players, and that's focusing on this game, giving this game the attention that it deserves so our players have an opportunity to go out and play to the best of their abilities.

“That's what we've always preached here is to put our players in the best position to be successful on the field and off the field, and this week has been no different.”

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No. 3 Ohio State (7-0) is scheduled to take on No. 1 Alabama (12-0) in the College Football Playoff National Championship on Jan. 11 down in Miami, FL at 8 p.m. ET.

 

Ole Chuckles needs to be checked for a severe case of CTE. lulz 

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7 minutes ago, Zeus said:

oh no the chart!111

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What doesn't make sense is that "Syrup or Brown Ale" should be full alignment, though "Amber or Honey" folks would probably argue otherwise. The point is that Mensa had the chart upside down.

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2 hours ago, WinningIsHard said:

 

Ole Chuckles needs to be checked for a severe case of CTE. lulz 

I have no doubt that is what he said, he probably mentioned the good things as 

free private jet trips to Tulsa

free lunch during deposition and advancment towards law degree

not really having to spend time worrying about special teams which means more time with the family

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On 1/7/2021 at 1:28 PM, Machinator said:

 

Very interesting tweet because it was DeVonta Smith who was motioned into the most promising spots this game and yet he was on the low end in the title and playoff game beforehand.. so motion tendencies is not as important as a key indicator of the target.. just an interesting thing to notice after watching the title game

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Just past the halfway mark (5:58) he addresses the "eyes" and that the dialogue will include bringing in alum like Earl, Vince, and Ricky who recognize the importance of the song.  Nailed it IMO.  

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Some nice insight into SARK as a leader in this article...

Thx for posting article @Eggo

 

How BYU QB Steve Sarkisian wrecked Texas A&M’s Wrecking Crew for 6 touchdowns 25 years ago - Athletic

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The moment Phil Bennett picked up the phone, knowing the topic of conversation, he said, “Thanks for bringing up my 44-year nightmare.”

That’s how long the North Texas defensive coordinator has coached football, and few losses stick with him the way the 1996 Pigskin Classic does. It was 25 years ago this week that Bennett, then Texas A&M’s defensive coordinator, and the No. 13 Aggies traveled to Provo, Utah, for a preseason kickoff game. BYU quarterback Steve Sarkisian and the Cougars’ high-powered offense razed the Aggies’ vaunted Wrecking Crew defense for 536 passing yards, six touchdowns and a 41-37 victory.

“I’ve never gotten over that game,” Bennett said, “ever.”

Although Sarkisian, 47, is the center of attention for his new gig as Texas head coach, trying to restore the Longhorns to their past glory, he holds a seminal place in BYU lore. His on-field exploits helped engineer one of the best seasons in Cougars program history, a season that began with a memorable display of quarterbacking a quarter century ago. That it came against the program that is now his in-state and future SEC rival is just a convenient twist of fate.

“He was incredibly accurate as a passer,” said former NFL tight end Chad Lewis, who played for the Cougars on Aug. 24, 1996. “Wherever he put it, we were going to go catch it.

“He was just such a perfect leader for our team.”

It was a game that almost didn’t happen.

The Pigskin Classic, a preseason game that didn’t count against the NCAA 11-game limit, took place every August from 1990 to 2002. It began as a neutral-site affair in Anaheim, Calif., before shifting to on-campus sites in 1995. Texas A&M, following a 9-3 season capped by a win against Michigan in the Alamo Bowl and a top-15 finish in the rankings, was offered a chance to host the ’96 game but was unwilling to guarantee a sellout, a requirement by the game’s organizers.

Before the game came together, head coach R.C. Slocum mentioned the possibility of playing a kickoff game to his staff. Bennett, whose defense had just lost key secondary pieces such as cornerback Ray Mickens and safety Dennis Allen, had only one request: Don’t play anybody who throws the ball a lot.

The Aggies explored playing Northwestern at Soldier Field in Chicago, but those plans were shuttered because of a conflict with the Democratic National Convention, which was being held in the city around the same time. With A&M instead paired with BYU, Slocum summoned Bennett to deliver the news.

Bennett still recalls his response to Slocum: “Are you fucking crazy?”

Bennett’s fears were warranted. The Aggies had two cornerbacks (Donovan Greer and Andre Williams) coming off knee surgery. BYU coach LaVell Edwards and offensive coordinator Norm Chow were ahead of the curve in offensive football then, spreading it out and throwing the ball much more frequently than their peers.

And though the Cougars were unranked and coming off a 7-4 season in which they missed the postseason, they spent the offseason leading up to 1996 practicing “with a chip on our shoulder and something to prove,” Sarkisian said. The 1995 season broke BYU’s 17-year bowl appearance streak and the team was eager to shake off that disappointment.

“That offseason was pretty intense,” Sarkisian said. “When that game got scheduled, our mindset was that it was a chance to prove ourselves.”

The ’96 Cougars were talented. Five BYU players who started against A&M wound up being NFL Draft picks: offensive linemen Eric Bateman and John Tait, defensive lineman Harland Ah You, tight end Itula Mili and receiver Ben Cahoon. Cahoon caught a key 33-yard pass from Sarkisian in the fourth quarter against A&M. Lewis, the tight end opposite Mili, went undrafted but had a productive nine-year career with the Philadelphia Eagles.

But the Aggies had the Wrecking Crew. Slocum’s mid-1990s defenses had a reputation for being big, physical and stingy. From 1993-95 only six of A&M’s 35 opponents reached the 20-point threshold. And the last time Texas A&M met BYU, it was ugly: The Aggies dominated the Cougars 65-14 in the 1990 Holiday Bowl, separating both of quarterback Ty Detmer’s shoulders. The Los Angeles Times headline: Aggies Hang Detmer on Trophy Wall.

The night before the ’96 clash, Edwards pulled up video highlights (or rather, a horror film for BYU) from the Holiday Bowl that assistant Duane Busby had compiled. He showed it to the team, and after it concluded, a recording of Detmer, who was in training camp with the Eagles at the time, appeared on screen. The former Heisman Trophy winner encouraged the Cougars to get revenge.

“That was a powerful video,” Lewis said. “It was incredibly motivating for our team. After we saw that, it was ‘Game on.’”

Sarkisian, a Torrance, Calif., native, took an unconventional path to BYU. Coming out of high school, only UC-Davis, a Division II school at the time, offered a football scholarship. He instead took a baseball scholarship to USC, but never really got comfortable.

He transferred to El Camino College, where he returned to football and thrived. After two seasons, he transferred to BYU. Sarkisian started immediately as a junior and had his ups and downs. But he finished the 1995 season by completing 31 of 34 passes for 399 yards and three touchdowns against Fresno State in the Cougars’ season finale.

When those stats flashed across the ABC game broadcast before kickoff against A&M, Dick Vermeil, the eventual Super Bowl-winning coach who served as the game’s analyst alongside play-by-play man Brent Musburger, said, “you can look for him to be better today, but maybe not recreate those kinds of statistics. He hasn’t faced a pass rush like he’s going to see today.”

Instead, BYU’s big and talented offensive line barely allowed the A&M defense to touch Sarkisian. And the senior quarterback was nearly flawless.

The Cougars started fast, scoring on their first possession after Sarkisian hit Mili for a 48-yard gain and Lewis for a diving 5-yard touchdown catch for an early six-point lead. But the Aggies, led by Tennessee transfer quarterback Branndon Stewart and a strong rushing attack, settled in and took control, jumping out to a 20-6 lead early in the second quarter.

Special teams helped BYU get back in it, as A&M returner Michael Jennings bobbled a bouncing punt, which the Cougars recovered. Sarkisian and the BYU offense found a rhythm, and he hit Mili and receiver Kaipo McGuire for touchdown passes to tie the score at 20 just before halftime.

The second half turned into a shootout. Sarkisian caught fire, completing 17 consecutive passes at one point before A&M safety Rich Coady picked him off in the third quarter. Sarkisian, Mili, Lewis, McGuire and receiver Levi Kealaluhi ate up chunks of yards in the middle of the field.

“They figured out how to attack us,” said A&M linebacker Dat Nguyen, named an All-American in 1998. “We were covering more space than we were used to. We couldn’t stop them.”

“We knew they were a heavy man-to-man team,” Sarkisian said. “We were able to chase them out of man coverage with some of our man beaters, and that forced them into playing more zone, which maybe they weren’t as comfortable doing. That got us into our comfort zone of finding those soft spots and getting completions.”

Stewart, with the help of 100-yard performances from running backs Eric Bernard and Sirr Parker, continued to respond. With the score tied at 34 early in the fourth, a dramatic finish awaited.

Late in regulation, Stewart hit Albert Connell on a slant for a touchdown, but it was called back on an ineligible man downfield penalty. With 87 seconds left, the Aggies settled for a 52-yard field goal and a three-point lead, leaving Sarkisian and the Cougars one more chance to tie the score or win it.

It took BYU just three plays to get downfield. Sarkisian hit McGuire for an 11-yard gain, then hit Kealaluhi, nicknamed “K.O.,” over the middle for 21 yards to cross midfield.

When the next play call came in, Kealaluhi wasn’t thrilled. His job was to run a go-route down the sideline to influence a safety to help, which would open up the middle of the field so Sarkisian could hit a tight end.

But Sarkisian had noticed that A&M’s cornerbacks “were nosy. They were looking in the backfield trying to maybe help others do their job rather than just doing their job.” So the Cougars opted to take a downfield shot from the Aggies’ 46-yard line.

When Kealaluhi came off the line of scrimmage, he thought, “Oh, I’m never gonna get this ball.” But once he noticed Sarkisian firing it his way, he accelerated, beat Williams, and caught it over his shoulder. Hit perfectly in stride, Kealaluhi sprinted across the goal line, slid onto his back and held the ball up above his face before dropping it and covering his facemask with both hands in disbelief. The crowd exploded. Moments later, a Stewart fumble on the final A&M possession sealed BYU’s victory.

On the touchdown call, Musburger yelled, “Levi Kealaluhi, the K.O. punch!”

“No way that just happened,” Kealaluhi recalled thinking. “To be thrown the ball in that situation when the game’s on the line, that’s all you dream of. … That was probably the highlight of my career.”

“We did something no one thought we could do,” Sarksian said. “We knocked off one of the perennial powers in college football at that time when no one was really giving us the chance to do it.”

Even Edwards was surprised, at least at how it all unfolded. Surrounded by jubilant fans who had rushed the field, he told sideline reporter Jack Arute after the game, “This is certainly not the score I would have predicted.”

Of the field rush, Sarkisian joked: “After celebrating, my next thought was, ‘I wanna get out of here, because I don’t know who all these people are.’

“But it was a great day, and it was a great start to a really memorable season.”

BYU went 14-1, losing only at Washington that season. The Cougars won the Western Athletic Conference, beat Kansas State in the Cotton Bowl and finished the year ranked fifth in the Associated Press poll.

“It’s the only time in BYU history that they’ve ever played on New Year’s Day,” Sarkisian said. “So we hold that in high regard.”

Added Kealaluhi: “It’s a memory that will always go down in history. When someone taps you on the back and reminds you of what you did for a program or how you made them feel, there’s nothing like it.”

Meanwhile, the loss was a sign of further trouble for the Aggies. Three weeks later, they lost to Louisiana (then known as Southwestern Louisiana) to start 0-2. They finished 6-6 with a blowout loss to Texas to end the season, one of only two .500 seasons that Slocum had in his 14-year tenure.

“Coach Slocum took us back into two-a-days (after the BYU loss),” offensive lineman Steve McKinney said, remembering a relentless two weeks of practice before A&M, “went down to Louisiana and completely laid an egg.”

Multiple players on that 1996 A&M team would get a better ending as part of the 1998 team that upset Kansas State and won a Big 12 championship, though.

Sarkisian’s final line against the Aggies: 33 of 44 passing, 536 yards, six touchdowns, one interception. He went on to throw for more than 4,000 yards in 1996, set a school record for completion percentage, surpassing Steve Young, led the nation in passer rating, won the Sammy Baugh Trophy and was named WAC Offensive Player of the Year. Sarkisian went undrafted and spent three years in the Canadian Football League before entering coaching in 2000.

Beyond the numbers and accolades, Kealaluhi remembers a poised, reliable leader. When the pressure was on and chaos reigned, Sarkisian was calm and steady.

“He’s one of the best, if not the best leader I’ve ever been around,” Kealaluhi said. “He had this swag about him. … I actually strive to be like him as a coach and a leader. He had this way to make us feel comfortable when we knew it was on the line.”

The old quarterback is now trying to impart his wisdom on a pair of young ones, as Sarkisian oversees a competition between Hudson Card and Casey Thompson for the right to be Texas’ QB1. Sarkisian’s successful history coaching quarterbacks is well-documented, fueled in part by his own playing experience. Sarkisian credits Chow, the late Roger French and former BYU national championship quarterback Robbie Bosco for tutoring him in the BYU offense, which gave Sarkisian freedom to change plays and route combinations at the line of scrimmage. That authority paid off that August day against Texas A&M.

Sarkisian also still carries much of what he learned from Edwards, a college football coaching legend and pioneer who died in 2016. Now in his third head coaching job thanks in large part to his offensive mind, Sarkisian tries to maintain not only the core schematic principles that he learned in Provo, but also build relationships the way Edwards did.

“A lot of my talks with him were not about football,” Sarkisian said. “It was about being a man and being the best man you can be, and also the confidence that he had in me. I’ve always tried to hold on to that.

“As coaches, we’re more than X’s and O’s, we’re more than just schemes and techniques. We’re leaders of men. But that quiet confidence he instilled in me as a player is something I’ve always tried to do with the guys that I’ve coached. Make sure that every Saturday that they take the field, that my coach believes in me.”

 

 

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So many mixed feelings about Sark.  When he was first rumored to get the job, I was lukewarm. I managed to convince myself over time he would be great, primarily because of stories about how good of an offensive coordinator he supposedly has become, and the opportunity he had to learn under Saban.

So went and looked at the Saban coaching tree and there sure are a lot of busts on there. For some reason I was thinking his tree was stronger.

It’s way way too early to form an opinion on Sark but the way they lost that game we definitely concerning. That Saban coaching tree makes me wonder if more of his success has been due to primarily early and extensive cheating in his Bama tenure, and less about coaching greatness. 

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7 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

There are a lot of “busts” on every coaching tree if you define bust as a guy who got fired.   On the other hand that list is filled with really good football coaches.  Running a program and not getting fired is almost impossibly hard at the FBS level.  Only a very few can do it. 

This is so true 

to quote the great Bum Phillips 

There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired. 

very few times do you see it not happen

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