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Romney has plenty of shittastic moments in his political past.  It's only his reflection in the Trump mirror where he comes off as some sort of statesman.

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"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what.""

 

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35 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

This is what people forget. The latest number I saw is 25%. Olds are dying and the youth are having none of this fascist bullshit. Yes you still see a large chunk of independents voting Republican reflexively but I don’t see that continuing after what happened on the 6th. The trumpers on my fb feed are all radio silent and the “conservatives” are all posting 10 day picture challenges of their kids 

I don't see the same thing. I have some easily brainwashed younger folks I employ. I never talk about anything political at work, but I hear them talking in a pro trump manner as a group all the time. Two of them are full on bought in trumpers. Evidently I their 20 years they have never seen a better economy! The data points and context is completely lost on them. Someday they might learn assuming the brainwashing doesn't take full hold. 

I have never talked or brought up politics in front of my young kids. One day they saw t**** on the local news and the 6 year old said he looks like the bad guy in a movie. So there is hope.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Well.....there's also an element of "we created a monster that we told to kill anyone who is not loyal to Trump....so if we're disloyal to Trump, they might just kill US."  And they aren't wrong.  They created a monster that they have no control over anymore.  The monster controls them.

Yeah, and Trump beats Romney 85-15.  Trump is king, or kingmaker, of the GOP from now until.....he decides not to be.

gotta agree with @Brisketexan here.

the other 50% of the Republican poll that "isn't approving of this mess" is a powerless collective of sad shit on a stick. splintering just guarantess total loss of power

mitt romney is done. you can't fight batshit crazy. the only thing worse than batshit crazy is sleeping with batshit crazy and thinking you will have anything left in your bank account when it all ends. you either go crazy or go home. 

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6 hours ago, mdmost said:

Sweater god, if the prosecution at the Senate trial doesn't have a 10 minute long screen shot presentation of trumpsters talking about how they will/are/were answering dotard's calls to storm the Capitol, I'm gonna go apeshit crazy. 

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6 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Y'all seem to forget that the Pubs generally did much better in down ballot races. There are still plenty of people who lean conservative or are straight up Republicans who despise Trump. The real question is what do they do now?

They go back to the Rs and we end up in the same place in 2024. Because people are stupid. 

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45 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

I've had quite a few posts like this on my FB feed over the last week, and it gives me hope.

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Why would anyone believe something that there is zero evidence of?  That’s the biggest issue.  Every accusation being positively disproven doesn’t change anything with these people. 

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5 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

What you outlined isn't significantly different from the Whig Party in 1852.  Yes, the Republican platform of 2020 was gross in its non-substance.  But take a look a the 1852 Whig Platform.  You can't tell me that it is significantly more substantive (especially on the key issue of the day).

The Party's complete lack of unifying ideas or ideology is a bug, not a feature.  It's a weakness; a sign of a dying party.

The Trumpist base isn't going to turn out to vote for establishment GOP candidates.  We've now seen that in multiple elections (most recently in the Georgia runoff).  But for whom will they turnout?  Only Trump combines the necessary conspiratorial bona fides, the overt racism, and the celebrity--and don't underestimate the role of celebrity--that one would need to motivate so many of these people who never otherwise vote.

And without those Trumpist votes, which only show up for Trump, the GOP is not a winning party.  It's not a party that can perpetuate itself and its power.  And since, as you rightly point out, that's the only attraction it has, how does it remain a party at all?

My concern is the base will primary establishment GOP candidates and then, through superior messaging and Dem incompetence, get greater and greater representation in Congress from election to election. 

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4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why would anyone believe something that there is zero evidence of?  That’s the biggest issue.  Every accusation being positively disproven doesn’t change anything with these people. 

Yeah, that really grinds my gears.

I suppose because these people are not fans of facts, they didn't follow the lawsuits and the complete failure of proof there.

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1 minute ago, SameSame said:

Jenna that’s good that’s perfect babe.

Now I need you to repeat that, every bit of it, at your sentencing.

The attention whore is strong in that one, and she is the epitome of entitled.  We'll see how public begging works out for her.  Wonder what chapter this would fall under in her book. 

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56 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Sweater god, if the prosecution at the Senate trial doesn't have a 10 minute long screen shot presentation of trumpsters talking about how they will/are/were answering dotard's calls to storm the Capitol, I'm gonna go apeshit crazy. 

 

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50 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, that really grinds my gears.

I suppose because these people are not fans of facts, they didn't follow the lawsuits and the complete failure of proof there.

I think it kinda dovetails with the whole click bait crap journalism culture we've built. Nobody cares to read past the headlines and just assumes the title of an article accurately reflects the story. Same thing happens with politics. People hear a headline or whatever and don't bother to do any real critical thinking.

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Inject this shit into [mention=550]PenelopeWitherspoon[/mention]'s veins because she not only wants but THINKS SHE DESERVES A PARDON!!!
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I mean....I have an alternative suggestion. Hear me out. It’s a creative and elegant solution. Here it is:

Hey, you literal treasonous bitch, get fucked.

So the my pillow guy is still trying to egg Trump on. You can see in his notes something about Martial Law. Ha.



The “opsec” of this guy and POTUS and numerous others in his orbit is jaw-dropping. I’m just a trial lawyer....and when I’m carrying notes of my argument into the courthouse etc, they are always in a folder, for precisely that reason: to keep from even accidentally revealing my strategy to the opposition. I have more opsec than the goddamned motherfucking White House. And I’m using tech from Office Depot.
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3 hours ago, AnotherUTFan said:

I've had quite a few posts like this on my FB feed over the last week, and it gives me hope.

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It's posts like this that make me think that if Trump issued a blanket pardon for everybody who attacked the capitol it would effectively destroy the Republican party.  I know some hardcore Republicans who voted for Trump and even THEY think that this was WRONG.  I believe they would punish the Republicans at the polls for allowing it next time around. 

 

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Is this the thread for the planned demonstrations of insurgent violence for the next couple of weeks?

Understanding the threat:

bougie-bois (a/k/a Boogaloo Boys) - from The Atlantic (Establishment focused): https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/01/boogaloo-prepare-civil-war/617683/

just one element of the greater trumper universe. Center-right sees the scam now and dashing for the exits.

The leftovers are those who believed the lies - and invested in them with their souls. We don't want them to become a thing, because they might get a lot of people killed. 

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8 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

On the other, it's a very fractious lot, and although there seem to be plenty willing to take up Trump's mantle, I don't think there's any one person that can galvanize them the way he did.

And the GOP seems divided among "true believers" and cynical opportunists, and if someone can't galvanize the electoral fractious lot to back the GOP fractious lot, all would seem to be lost.

This is where I'm at, and I like where GOLL is going.

Here's the thing to me:  Many of the major players in the GOP were major players 8 and 12 years ago.  Barrack Hussein Obama was a black, Marxist, socialist, communist, atheist, Muslim born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia, planted in Hawaii and turned into a "community organizer" in Chicago.

The Tea Party movement came about in 2009-2010, and you had Barrack Hussein Obama running for reelection in 2012, and yet no Republicans were able to get the GOP, and get the fringe/deplorables/Tea Party/what have you,  that Trump captured in 2016, to the polls and beat Obama in 2012.

Trump is lightning in a bottle.  There just is nobody in the GOP that can tap into what Trump taps into as far as fear, anger, and angst.

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8 hours ago, burntorangebongos said:

This guy was put in place After the election when Trump fired Esper. So this is what he says today probably because he gives no fucks. More and more it seems he might have been put here to go along things that didn't transpire. Fuck this guy.

 

Wow, burntorangebongos, I see you've never drank heavily and then held a press conference.

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9 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Trump is lightning in a bottle.  There just is nobody in the GOP that can tap into what Trump taps into as far as fear, anger, and angst.

Yep.  A lot of stars have to align.  The stars are out there, and they are every bit as shitty as advertised, but getting them lined up is the difficulty.

There's something about Trump that's pretty obvious, but I haven't seen it articulated a lot, or maybe it didn't sink into my thick head.

He's really incoherent and just bops from topic to topic.  He's like a human 240 character twitter feed with even less coherence.  So his followers just get a sound bite, then he moves on to another one before anyone can really digest the first or second or third one beyond the visceral reaction.  And somehow it manages not to seem quite as incoherent as it really is.

He's just a very unique combination of pathologies that combine to prey on those who are inclined to be preyed upon.

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1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Saw this in the comments:

 

The invocation of the end times eschatology in the preceding post is just so perfectly on-brand for her ilk.  It's just  . . .  "chef's kiss."

Yeah, you lil chonky troll, the man is comin round, but it's not quite what you have in mind.

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