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14 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

 


Hugo starts a new thread every five minutes so it’s hard to keep up: where did they announce their intent to execute Congress? Facebook?

 

Ummmmm.....fucking EVERYWHERE?   Seriously, there are statements by these folks on Parler, Twitter, and umpteen other sites....then there are the recorded statements they were making that day.  And then, you know, the fucking guns and zip ties they brought along with them for the party.  This is literally the easiest police investigation in history.

1 -- here is the suspect saying he wants to try and execute Pelosi/Biden for treason.

2 -- here is the suspect breaching a police line and entering the capitol by force.

3 -- here is the zip ties and weapons the suspect brought with him.

That's about as easy as an investigation and prosecution get.

7 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

It's real.

 

4 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Holy shit.  Can't believe that was real.  This country is toast.  May as well just get the civil war started already.

Dude....it started a long time ago.  The only question is when the good guys finally decide to fight back.  The full weight of the state needs to come down on seditionists.  And the rest of we the people need to punish every person and enterprise that funds GOP wingnuts.  If a business contributes to Josh Hawley, out them, and do all you can to destroy their reputation and business.  Make association with and support of this terrorist organization as horrific as it would be if they supported Al Qaeda.  It's not any different any more.  In fact, it's worse.

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33 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I agree 100%, but politically, there are tons of "moderate" people who vote democrat (hence Joe Biden), who would be turned off by an aggressive response like that, and it is a political reality that must be considered. I want the democrats to be more progressive, but I'll take the most moderate democrats in office over anyone associated with today's gop. I want to see justice served severely here, but I understand if the response remains tepid.

Fuck that. The choices are the Dems, progressive or not, or actual sedition. If a voter still chooses sedition then fuck em. We can win without them.

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32 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

He tried to have them killed. Is that not getting through some part of your head?

“Or for his cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment to remove him.” Your selective bolding of a cherry-picked segment of my argument doesn’t capture the full argument so isn’t really relevant, especially when you’re defending your predisposition to bitch about everything that Nancy Pelosi does. When I’m reading posts without paying attention to who’s posting, I can identify yours because I recognize the constant bitch-mode about Nancy Pelosi. The armchair quarterbacking gets to be a little tedious.

I don’t envy Pelosi her job, and I know that she knows a lot more about everything the job entails than you and I do. But I know the Republicans don’t hate her because they think she’s ineffective at it. And again, if they file article(s) of impeachment on Monday then that is ridiculously fast. This isn’t a tv show. This is real life. Patience, grasshopper. (And yes, I know I’m quoting a tv show but just grant me that poetic license.)

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6 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Gonna be hell figuring out which 4 people in Tyler read it.

And I'm putting you on notice: your wild exaggeration of the number of literate people in Tyler is fake news, and makes you part of the problem.

I've got my eye on you....

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7 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

What the fuck is a "Climate Control Supporter"?  Is that like when my wife subverts me and turns the A/C from 75 to 80?  'Cause yeah, I'll fucking riot up in a bitch.  

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Just now, hobbes2702 said:

Fuck that. The choices are the Dems, progressive or not, or actual sedition. If a voter still chooses sedition then fuck em. We can win without them.

I hope you're right, but I disagree. I think there are a ton of people who don't give a shit about the news and aren't making the "actual sedition" connection, they just saw protesters, like BLM etc. They don't make the distinction because its happy hour and natty lite is 2 for 1. 

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Is no one going to comment on the absolutely ridiculous taste in music these no talent assclowns have?  That video of Eric et al partying it up during an attempted coup is just a long line of village people and other gay disco pop.  Why am I not surprised. 

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

And I'm putting you on notice: your wild exaggeration of the number of literate people in Tyler is fake news, and makes you part of the problem.

I've got my eye on you....

WHY ARE YOU DOXXING ME? I COULDN'T HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE CAPITOL BECAUSE HERE IS A PICTURE OF ME BURNING THE SMITHSONIAN.

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11 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Did you not pay attention to the general election? Biden's performance was way short of what the polls predicted, and we were damn near close to another trump presidency from swing states. That tells me a lot of people told pollsters they'd vote for Biden then changed their minds. The only thing that happened late in the election cycle was "HUNTER BIDEN ARGGG" and "KAMALA IS A SOCIALIST LIKE VENEZUELA!!!" I think you give the electorate too much credit if you think trials for insurrection and sedition will move the needle towards democrats from this group of wishy washy low iq voters.

Those same voters have the attention spans of mosquitos.  2 years from now, there will be some other bullshit outrage of the day about Democrats, and they won't care at all about what happens in January/February 2021.  Nuremberg was wrapped up in less than a year.  No matter what Dems do now, by election day 2022, they'll be complaining about Kamala's outfits, Joe tousling some kid's hair, and Hunter getting a free latte at Starbucks.

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5 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Did you not pay attention to the general election? Biden's performance was way short of what the polls predicted, and we were damn near close to another trump presidency from swing states. That tells me a lot of people told pollsters they'd vote for Biden then changed their minds. The only thing that happened late in the election cycle was "HUNTER BIDEN ARGGG" and "KAMALA IS A SOCIALIST LIKE VENEZUELA!!!" I think you give the electorate too much credit if you think trials for insurrection and sedition will move the needle towards democrats from this group of wishy washy low iq voters.

And who are those people going to vote for instead.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

And I'm putting you on notice: your wild exaggeration of the number of literate people in Tyler is fake news, and makes you part of the problem.

I've got my eye on you....

I grew up around a fair number of smart people in Tyler and a shit load of mouth breathing idiots. 100% of the smart people went to college and never moved back. All the morons moved back or never left and will be sending their kids to Robert E. Lee Legacy High.

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Just now, 'stache said:

I hope you're right, but I disagree. I think there are a ton of people who don't give a shit about the news and aren't making the "actual sedition" connection, they just saw protesters, like BLM etc. They don't make the distinction because its happy hour and natty lite is 2 for 1. 

Fuck them all. Fuck their views. Fuck their opinions. Fuck what they want. If the Democratic party had any balls, they would go for the throat. There is currently a gaping schism in the GOP. They are eating their own. Dems cannot afford to let them coalesce around a message and regain their strength. It needs to be destroyed as a viable party. Now. There needs to be DC statehood and Puerto Rico statehood bills on the desk on Day 1. There need to be multiple SCOTUS nominees in the first 100 days. They started the war, and Dems are under no obligation to consider appeals to mercy or tradition.

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6 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Did you not pay attention to the general election? Biden's performance was way short of what the polls predicted, and we were damn near close to another trump presidency from swing states. That tells me a lot of people told pollsters they'd vote for Biden then changed their minds. The only thing that happened late in the election cycle was "HUNTER BIDEN ARGGG" and "KAMALA IS A SOCIALIST LIKE VENEZUELA!!!" I think you give the electorate too much credit if you think trials for insurrection and sedition will move the needle towards democrats from this group of wishy washy low iq voters.

I think there's a general consensus among pollsters that Trump voters are hard to reach, don't answer polling, and are hard to model.  A lot of democrats are home, answering their phones, and fired up to talk to a pollster.  It's not so much shy Trump voters, as Trump voters are impossible to poll in any way that really captures them given how reliant the industry is on modelling.

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3 minutes ago, Homercles said:

Is no one going to comment on the absolutely ridiculous taste in music these no talent assclowns have?  That video of Eric et al partying it up during an attempted coup is just a long line of village people and other gay disco pop.  Why am I not surprised. 

I actually have a theory about this. I think Trump likes the disco music because hitting the New York clubs in the '70s was the happiest time of his life.

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Twitter and Facebook are infuriating. There are tons of claims of, "The violence was ANTIFA" with videos showing one person pulling another person from a window.  Were there some bad actors in there?  Most likely, but the vast majority of that mob was Trump supporters.  These people are so stupid, I am not sure how they function.  

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7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I hope you're right, but I disagree. I think there are a ton of people who don't give a shit about the news and aren't making the "actual sedition" connection, they just saw protesters, like BLM etc. They don't make the distinction because its happy hour and natty lite is 2 for 1. 

And we don’t need those people to win anything. Especially with a new VRA. You don’t make policy decisions because stupid people can’t understand what’s happening. You make policy decisions that will help Americans. This scared to govern shit is so fucking tired and transparent. It’s all bullshit to prevent progressive policies from helping actual people.

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2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Did you not pay attention to the general election? Biden's performance was way short of what the polls predicted, and we were damn near close to another trump presidency from swing states. That tells me a lot of people told pollsters they'd vote for Biden then changed their minds. The only thing that happened late in the election cycle was "HUNTER BIDEN ARGGG" and "KAMALA IS A SOCIALIST LIKE VENEZUELA!!!" I think you give the electorate too much credit if you think trials for insurrection and sedition will move the needle towards democrats from this group of wishy washy low iq voters.

OK.  I will grudgingly accept this point and apologize to you for the call-out. 

I will also pour myself a cocktail and consider the idea that you might be correct that we live in the kind of country where we have to be nice to the traitors who tried to overthrow the government so we don't upset 50 million idiots.

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I hate to point this out but has anyone watched Fox/OAN type of news the last 24 hours?  There are a 100 million American citizens getting their "news" from these and it is not based in reality.  I switched on Hannity last night for about the first 60 seconds of his show.  If anyone can find it and post it, it's actually enlightening about the kind of falsehoods and lies they are still telling their viewers.  Half the country is being told that this was ANTIFA, or some bad guys.  They are saying Trump had nothing to do with it (yes there is video showing he incited it but they don't show their viewers that).  Hannity went on about the media got a weak man like Biden elected and good luck to the country when all the powerful dictators around the world take advantage of a weak and frail man like Biden.  Its disgusting and frightening but until you figure out a way to stop the propaganda you can not win this cold civil war.  

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1 minute ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Twitter and Facebook are infuriating. There are tons of claims of, "The violence was ANTIFA" with videos showing one person pulling another person from a window.  Were there some bad actors in there?  Most likely, but the vast majority of that mob was Trump supporters.  These people are so stupid, I am not sure how they function.  

Those “bad actors” were trump supporters. They are one in the same.

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1 minute ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Twitter and Facebook are infuriating. There are tons of claims of, "The violence was ANTIFA" with videos showing one person pulling another person from a window.  Were there some bad actors in there?  Most likely, but the vast majority of that mob was Trump supporters.  These people are so stupid, I am not sure how they function.  

These people STILL BELIEVE PIZZAGATE IS REAL. They don't need evidence of anything to make such claims. Their deeply held belief is sufficient.

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1 hour ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Yeah no shit.  What if there is a situation where it actually calls for the president to have access to those codes.  Every country who might want to take offensive nuclear action against us right now knows that we're hobbled because of this nonsense.  That's reason enough to get rid of him today.

If this is true and republican leadership isn’t livid about this, isn’t that tacit admission that he’s unfit?

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4 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

I actually have a theory about this. I think Trump likes the disco music because hitting the New York clubs in the '70s was the happiest time of his life.

And we could have been saved from all of this by a cocaine overdose on one of multiple occasions, I'm sure.

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These people STILL BELIEVE PIZZAGATE IS REAL. They don't need evidence of anything to make such claims. Their deeply held belief is sufficient.

There are people in my neighborhood that are calling this a “mostly” peaceful protest. Guess what - they are white, Trump supporters. They are still posting Biden memes of him sniffing the guy from Q with the horn. They are delusional trash. Oh, I’m in suburban Houston, aggyville, if you will.
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1 minute ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Watching MSNBC and Frank Figliuzzi brings up a great point that if any adversaries are looking to hit us, now is the time to expect it. Awesome sauce. 

Why bother?

Now's the time to annex another Eastern European country or claim some islands in the South China Sea, but why interrupt us tearing ourselves apart when they can just sit back and enjoy the shit-show?

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Assuming this is the statute, it's a 10 year max, surprisingly.  https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1752

Fits to a tee though.

I'm kind of surprised how many different treasony, seditiony, insurrectiony criminal statutes we have.  Wait, no I'm not.

Won't everyone arrested most likely get accessory for murder/manslaughter tacked on?

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1 minute ago, ultimaton said:

Why bother?

Now's the time to annex another Eastern European country or claim some islands in the South China Sea, but why interrupt us tearing ourselves apart when they can just sit back and enjoy the shit-show?

Twisting the knife while we are weak, why else? To prove more that democracy is not as good as autocracy. 

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7 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

They had pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, guns, zip ties, nooses - and you don’t know what the goal was? They stormed the Capitol with the entire legislature inside!

and the next 3 in the line of succession.  Meadows is #4.

If they kill Pence, Pelosi, and Grassley then the next up is the CoS.

Congress adjourns without certifying the vote, Trumpco tells states to "find more votes and recertify".  Yay dictator.

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The moon is high up on a mountain
The lunatics have taken over the asylum
Waiting on the rapture
Singing, "We're here to keep your prices down
We'll feed you to the hounds
To the daily mail, to get up, together"
You made a pig's ear, you made a mistake
Paid off security and got through the gate
You got away with it but we lie in wait, eh
Eh, eh
Where's the truth what's the use
I'm hanging around lost and found
And when you're here innocent
Fat chance, no plan
No regard for human life
You'll keep time, you've no right
You're fast to lose, you will lose
You jumped the queue, you're back again
President for life, love of all
The flies in the sky, the beasts of the earth
The fish in the sea have lost command
 
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3 minutes ago, ultimaton said:

Why bother?

Now's the time to annex another Eastern European country or claim some islands in the South China Sea, but why interrupt us tearing ourselves apart when they can just sit back and enjoy the shit-show?

Bill Cohen just put it differently.  With Trump still seated, a foreign adversary could pull some shit on an ally and get away.  They also could give Trump safe harbor (financially and otherwise) in exchange for not ordering a response.

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1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

Right? What's the point? A few more Q ramblings and allegations of Dominion ties to China aught to do it.

Not to mention, we sort of need an agreed upon outside villain right now. An attack might actually do us a lot of good. 

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Just now, Red Five said:

Not to mention, we sort of need an agreed upon outside villain right now. An attack might actually do us a lot of good. 

Yeah, that will give us all a minority group to fuck with for a while instead of each other. 
unless that attack is from space, it would be bad for American 

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5 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

Bill Cohen just put it differently.  With Trump still seated, a foreign adversary could pull some shit on an ally and get away.  They also could give Trump safe harbor (financially and otherwise) in exchange for not ordering a response.

Gotcha

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