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56 minutes ago, elfenix said:

hey nice to see you guys in here again maybe you can stop fucking up the rest of the board by leaving your political snail trails all over it kthxhi

 

Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

more like idiotic thought crop dusting. stinks in here again

nah, they should be posting here. this is where the stink belongs. that's the whole point. 

i'm going to be aggressively moving threads here that get political. this board is where that belongs.

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6 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

 

nah, they should be posting here. this is where the stink belongs. that's the whole point. 

i'm going to be aggressively moving threads here that get political. this board is where that belongs.

you should ban repeat offenders from DT and from 6th street

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19 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

 

nah, they should be posting here. this is where the stink belongs. that's the whole point. 

i'm going to be aggressively moving threads here that get political. this board is where that belongs.

Exactly. Those dude make political posts over there all the time they just choose their words more carefully to try to hide it. 

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34 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

 

nah, they should be posting here. this is where the stink belongs. that's the whole point. 

i'm going to be aggressively moving threads here that get political. this board is where that belongs.

Will you also be aggressively giving timeouts when they are flat out trolling and adding nothing of substance?  Because that needs to happen.

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37 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

 

nah, they should be posting here. this is where the stink belongs. that's the whole point. 

i'm going to be aggressively moving threads here that get political. this board is where that belongs.

yes it does, y'all should. so many 'no CR!!' crybabies yet totally CR everywhere else. 

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2 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

nah, they should be posting here. this is where the stink belongs. that's the whole point. 

i'm going to be aggressively moving threads here that get political. this board is where that belongs.

The annoying thing is that they know they can take a DT thread they don't like or that triggers them in some way, and with one or two comments get it moved to here.

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1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

it's not just them. 

I still think that the best way to resolve message board disputes is having the opposing parties meet up in person for a fight officiated by a mod. A board I used to post on would do this. There was this militant atheist and youth pastor that would always get into it in threads until they were told to throw down. Youth pastor ended up choking out the atheist. They quit bickering after that.

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2 hours ago, F250 said:

I still think that the best way to resolve message board disputes is having the opposing parties meet up in person for a fight officiated by a mod. A board I used to post on would do this. There was this militant atheist and youth pastor that would always get into it in threads until they were told to throw down. Youth pastor ended up choking out the atheist. They quit bickering after that.

In the infancy of the old board, I had a couple of posters that I bickered with constantly. Eventually we end up meeting at a tailgate, had beers together, and our internet interactions went from bitter bickering 100% of the time to actual discussions 50% of the time and just shooting the shit in random threads the other 50%. Humanizing a screen name goes a long way.

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In the infancy of the old board, I had a couple of posters that I bickered with constantly. Eventually we end up meeting at a tailgate, had beers together, and our internet interactions went from bitter bickering 100% of the time to actual discussions 50% of the time and just shooting the shit in random threads the other 50%. Humanizing a screen name goes a long way.

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3 hours ago, F250 said:

I still think that the best way to resolve message board disputes is having the opposing parties meet up in person for a fight officiated by a mod. A board I used to post on would do this. There was this militant atheist and youth pastor that would always get into it in threads until they were told to throw down. Youth pastor ended up choking out the atheist. They quit bickering after that.

3 hours ago, slorch said:

alcohol is the solution.

Or just separate Daily Texan into two forums - Daily Texan/Current Events and Shooting the Shit.

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1 hour ago, Eastwood said:

In the infancy of the old board, I had a couple of posters that I bickered with constantly. Eventually we end up meeting at a tailgate, had beers together, and our internet interactions went from bitter bickering 100% of the time to actual discussions 50% of the time and just shooting the shit in random threads the other 50%. Humanizing a screen name goes a long way.

I rarely post on here (other than the Food & Travel board) because if I offer any kind of opinion or statement about politics, I tend to get told to go fuck myself, stupid aggy, rascist, fascist, etc...

Hence, I lurk.  I have, though, noticed a huge leftward shift of many of the posters that seemed to be on the center right of the political scale.  It's been interesting.

Take my view as you will....YMMV

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6 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

It’s not a huge leftward shift. It’s that the republicans have shifted so far to the right that Adolf Hitler in hell thinks they’ve gone too far and it makes center right people appear liberal in comparison.

Its annoying that people like you don’t see that. 

Could you list out these Republican/right shifts sticking strictly to policy issues?

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I was one of the center right. Still am. A lot of people have gone way, way right. That includes many of my own family. I had a serious heart to heart with them a couple of months ago where I basically told them, "you guys raised me. You guys made me the man I am today. Those same people who raised me would be ashamed if I acted the way that people you are championing are acting. I hope you take that to heart because I am not seeing the people who raised me in you today."

There has been a large divergence from conservative Republicanism. I didn't go anywhere.

I haven't gone anywhere either.  But, I've got numerous friends that were center left and reasonable that now think full blown socialism is a good idea.

 

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4 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Could you list out these Republican/right shifts sticking strictly to policy issues?

Dude. The Republican party has no platform whatsoever. Are you living under a rock? It’s just a cult of personality worshiping trump. Its the nazi party minus any real give a shit about country, whether fake or not. They just want to burn it down. 

Tell me what policy position they espouse I should bother to refute? Link the Republican Party platform and its positions.

Im starting to see why people call you an aggy moron, if In fact they do. 

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1 minute ago, Ag with kids said:

I haven't gone anywhere either.  But, I've got numerous friends that were center left and reasonable that now think full blown socialism is a good idea.

 

Ok. You’re a dumbass. Got it.

Tell us what your former friends “full blown socialism “ actually entails. Unless it’s just a buzzword you heard on Fox. 

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1 minute ago, JimmyJames said:

Dude. The Republican party has no platform whatsoever. Are you living under a rock? It’s just a cult of personality worshiping trump. Its the nazi party minus any real give a shit about country, whether fake or not. They just want to burn it down. 

Tell me what policy position they espouse I should bother to refute? Link the Republican Party platform and its positions.

Im starting to see why people call you an aggy moron, if In fact they do. 

a) Thank you for reinforcing why I don't post on CR much - even though I used to post a lot more on Shaggy/Hornfans.

ii) Just because you don't know what Republicans (or the right/libertarians) want doesn't mean I need to explain things to you.

3) Again, you've stated that the Republicans are the "nazi party minus any real give a shit about country".  It shouldn't be too hard to expound on the ACTUAL policies and positions that make them "nazis".  But, be specific.  Please don't just use platitudes.

IV) Godwin thanks you for invoking him...

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9 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Ok. You’re a dumbass. Got it.

Tell us what your former friends “full blown socialism “ actually entails. Unless it’s just a buzzword you heard on Fox. 

Well, I listen to NPR, so...

And I didn't say they were "former friends".  I'm not the kind of asshole that throws away friendship just because we have different views...

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1 minute ago, Ag with kids said:

a) Thank you for reinforcing why I don't post on CR much - even though I used to post a lot more on Shaggy/Hornfans.

ii) Just because you don't know what Republicans (or the right/libertarians) want doesn't mean I need to explain things to you.

3) Again, you've stated that the Republicans are the "nazi party minus any real give a shit about country".  It shouldn't be too hard to expound on the ACTUAL policies and positions that make them "nazis".  But, be specific.  Please don't just use platitudes.

IV) Godwin thanks you for invoking him...

Nice deflection. Maybe you should post here less because you don’t have anything to contribute apparently.

I asked you for the Republican Party policy positions that you wanted me to refute and you of course deflected because they simply do not exist.

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1 minute ago, JimmyJames said:

Nice deflection. Maybe you should post here less because you don’t have anything to contribute apparently.

I asked you for the Republican Party policy positions that you wanted me to refute and you of course deflected because they simply do not exist.

You're the one that stated "It’s that the republicans have shifted so far to the right that Adolf Hitler in hell thinks they’ve gone too far and it makes center right people appear liberal in comparison."

I asked you to clarify what these positions were.

Why should I have to do your homework for you?

JFC

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24 minutes ago, Eastwood said:

I was one of the center right. Still am. A lot of people have gone way, way right. That includes many of my own family. I had a serious heart to heart with them a couple of months ago where I basically told them, "you guys raised me. You guys made me the man I am today. Those same people who raised me would be ashamed if I acted the way that people you are championing are acting. I hope you take that to heart because I am not seeing the people who raised me in you today."

There has been a large divergence from conservative Republicanism. I didn't go anywhere.

That's the thing.  I've had several relatives/friends pull the "you used to be a Republican, you used to campaign for Republicans, why'd you leave the party?"

I never left the part, it left me.  I'm still fairly close to having the same beliefs (I did have a Libertarian phase) I did 20 years ago, mixed in with a change of opinion over a few things that some Republicans want to turn into hills to die on, but otherwise I'm not far off from where I was 20 years ago.  

Well, one big change is I'm more than happy to acknowledge how many Republican policies aren't working with shit.  20 years ago, I was in my early 20s and still naive.  Now I see the same policies from when I was a kid still being touted, and still not working, and the politicians pushing those policies have done a good job of convincing far too many Republicans that someday these policies will work.

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11 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

a) Thank you for reinforcing why I don't post on CR much - even though I used to post a lot more on Shaggy/Hornfans.

ii) Just because you don't know what Republicans (or the right/libertarians) want doesn't mean I need to explain things to you.

3) Again, you've stated that the Republicans are the "nazi party minus any real give a shit about country".  It shouldn't be too hard to expound on the ACTUAL policies and positions that make them "nazis".  But, be specific.  Please don't just use platitudes.

IV) Godwin thanks you for invoking him...

Post the Republican Party platform. Show us what they think. You might have a hard time finding it though…

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5 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

You're the one that stated "It’s that the republicans have shifted so far to the right that Adolf Hitler in hell thinks they’ve gone too far and it makes center right people appear liberal in comparison."

I asked you to clarify what these positions were.

Why should I have to do your homework for you?

JFC

Immigration, abortion, voting rights, tax policy, federalism. Not to mention the three I listed above in my previous post.

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20 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

ii) Just because you don't know what Republicans (or the right/libertarians) want doesn't mean I need to explain things to you.

I don't think you know what Republicans want either.

Hell, I don't even know if you could identify what makes a Republican a Republican these days.

I'm not bashing you by the way - right now, the GOP has officially decided to define itself by its loyalty to Trump, a guy who will join whatever party benefits him the most at the time, and who gives no shits about the GOP platform, no shits about having conservative values/morals.  A guy who will destroy the careers of actual lifelong Republicans who are far more conservative than he is, simply because he doesn't like what they said, or because they don't praise him enough.

What is a Republican these days?  Is it a Liz Cheney who for decades has been fairly hardline conservative, and has alienated her family because she doesn't think her sister should marry a woman? Apparently not, because she wasn't loyal enough to one man, and now the GOP wants her replaced.  Mitch McConnell who is the GOP personified, or William Barr, Trump's former AG and another Mr. GOP?  Nope, because former President Trump, and defacto head of the GOP is out there calling them both RINOs.

Right now the GOP has a bit of a purge going on, and it's not because they are arguing over the platform, it's about whether or not they are loyal to a single man, a former friend of the Clintons and who was a Democrat for years.

Edit: You have these Republicans who have been in office for decades, and all of the sudden there's a new crop of Republicans like Cawthorn, Boebert, MTG, Butthead Gaetz, who are coming in and they are deciding who is Republican and who isn't, and they are attacking plenty of old-school Republicans simply because those Republicans didn't buy into the cult of personality.  Hell, I kind of think Ted Cruz is the way he is, because he doesn't want an MTG/Boebert/Cawthorne crawling up his ass.

 

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42 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Could you list out these Republican/right shifts sticking strictly to policy issues?

Could you?

Sub-question:  how many of these are not related to some kind of social issue, or trendy news event of the past week/month/year, or are some kind of convoluted application of...something (CRT, Sharia Law, etc).

 

 

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6 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Immigration, abortion, voting rights, tax policy, federalism. Not to mention the three I listed above in my previous post.

Again...vague talking points.  State the position of the Republicans and then give an explanation of why it's bad in your opinion.

I can post a list of things I disagree with the left on.  That's not difficult.

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7 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Again...vague talking points.  State the position of the Republicans and then give an explanation of why it's bad in your opinion.

I can post a list of things I disagree with the left on.  That's not difficult.

Immigration, look at W and look now. Those aren’t vague talking points. You just appear to support a party without knowing anything about them. You can look up all of this pretty easily. You’ll have trouble finding policy positions for the party though. Do you know why that is?

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1 minute ago, Ag with kids said:

Again...vague talking points.  State the position of the Republicans and then give an explanation of why it's bad in your opinion.

I can post a list of things I disagree with the left on.  That's not difficult.

#1 position of Republicans today:  Loyalty to Trump.

It took a fucking year for the RNC Chairwoman to publicly admit that Biden won, and that was only last week, all because she didn't want to upset Trump or his followers.

Spokeswoman for the GOP two days ago:

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"As a leader of our party, defending President Trump and his record of achievement is critical to the GOP"

 

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