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1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

in the same vein of "but wait i have a black friend", i actually do have a midget friend*.  he's fantastic and hilarious and he hates any term besides midget.  he thinks it's patronizing and stupid.

of course i only use that term in two instances - when talking about him, or when using the tmc analogy.  both rarely come up, so i sleep ok at night.

 

*his instagram is largely him in a mini-trump outfit, full-on, including wig, doing lip syncs and impressions.  it's pretty great.

You know who else rarely comes UP?  Your midget friend.   

Yeah, the only one I know somewhat doesn't like any other term but that either.  

I would like to see the instagram of your friend in Trump attire though.  

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28 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I don't know what's worse...that you still call them midgets...or that you had to "shorten" that term, and then elongate it back out again afterwards.  You sick sonofabitch.

Also, yeah---can attest based on in-laws the Kansas City, KS/Kansas City, MO battle is real.  Holy shit with the: one side is worse, one side is better, the suburbs of one are better than the suburbs of the other, the exurbs of one are worse than the other.  It's all one stale, boring-as-fuck metroplex but they have carved themselves out more tribes than an Oklahoma casino.  The little plaza area in downtown KCMO is kinda cool, and nothing about the whole area is awful like Saint Louis, but it's like a fucking Flintstones cartoon, it's the same repetitive landscape and strip center for 25 miles in every direction.  But they're so damn territorial, as if one master-planned paper-mache housing development is different from the one literally right down the street/across the state border.  And the record---the whole area has mediocre BBQ.  I get the popularity of North Carolina BBQ, but I've tried to hit up every authentic and/or famous joint in Kansas City in all our travels there and it's fucking crap.  It's not bad, but it's so fucking overrated it's insane.  

So, basically Dallas but fewer BMWs.

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2 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Lubbock is greater than college station even though Lubbock frequently smells like cowshit. At least it did the last time I was there. 

While I don't recommend driving to Lubbock, I assume you did so on US 84 where the stockyards are.

Don't do that.

Drive through on US 87 instead.

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2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

in the same vein of "but wait i have a black friend", i actually do have a midget friend*.  he's fantastic and hilarious and he hates any term besides midget.  he thinks it's patronizing and stupid.

of course i only use that term in two instances - when talking about him, or when using the tmc analogy.  both rarely come up, so i sleep ok at night.

 

*his instagram is largely him in a mini-trump outfit, full-on, including wig, doing lip syncs and impressions.  it's pretty great.

Please let him be Wee Man.

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1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

the sad thing is, he probably could've gotten away with the fist pump photo if it was just the fist pump photo.  the fact that he still objected to the certification, after the fucking siege, is the kicker.  those two tied together should be a political death sentence.  it won't be, but it should be.

i can't remember who it was, but i wanna say john dean or maybe carl bernstein on cnn, talking about cruz and hawley and their motivations re:2024.  whoever it was basically said, "they thought it would give them a leg up to access trump's base.  it was stupid, pointless, and neither one of these men will ever be president."

that might or might not be an accurate statement, but it felt really good to hear it, and it should be something that is repeated as often as possible.

ted cruz and josh hawley will never be president.

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2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

in the same vein of "but wait i have a black friend", i actually do have a midget friend*.  he's fantastic and hilarious and he hates any term besides midget.  he thinks it's patronizing and stupid.

of course i only use that term in two instances - when talking about him, or when using the tmc analogy.  both rarely come up, so i sleep ok at night.

 

*his instagram is largely him in a mini-trump outfit, full-on, including wig, doing lip syncs and impressions.  it's pretty great.

 

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I think that guy died.  But to tie it back to the OP...he had a bigger spine than Josh Hawley.  

Some of these Congressmen could have such brilliant futures (Hawley, Gaetz, Cruz) if they just acted some semblance of decency.  But it's a race right now and the maths prove it out.  The 20mm Trumpers that were "discovered" between 2015-2021...there's a finite shelf-life to them.  they'll either return to complacency/GOP ambivalence and disengage politically and/or die in the next few cycles.  So you have to hurry up and appeal to them to capture the momentum.  It's an eventual race to the bottom but there is a short-term gain to be had there. 

That's all Trump bootlicking was about.  You can gerrymander, stack courts to decide voter suppression efforts on your behalf, get an upper-hand in fundraising/PAC activity, etc.  Or just follow Drogin's playbook with Cruz from 2012.  His digitized targeting of people feeling marginalized, combined with Cambridge Analytica, and some super PAC work...they found out a short-cut that's not only easier, but cheaper, and completely legal---just appeal to the lowest common denominator and encourage them to come out and participate in politics feeling like they're special again.  They found the ~20mm voters that were missing from the GOP all along and just messaged them accordingly.  And now, if their messiah is gone---someone else needs to shepherd them or at least half of them will fade back into the woodwork.  Drogin envisioned all of this, give him credit, almost 10 years ago, but didn't quite have the technology nor the budget.  But now, it's in the hands of thousands of political consultants and campaign managers.  And there's a short fuse on how long somebody can exploit this group for their own means.  It'll be a footnote in textbooks 50 years from now, but there's 20+ years left in the tank on this thing still.  It just needs a driver.  

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18 minutes ago, Lobo said:

And there's a short fuse on how long somebody can exploit this group for their own means.  It'll be a footnote in textbooks 50 years from now, but there's 20+ years left in the tank on this thing still.  It just needs a driver.  

Why do you think it'll stop? Stupid people will always be stupid and poor. And Republicans will take advantage of them forever. These people won't all of a sudden get smarter and realize that they're being used. 

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29 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I think that guy died.  But to tie it back to the OP...he had a bigger spine than Josh Hawley.  

Some of these Congressmen could have such brilliant futures (Hawley, Gaetz, Cruz) if they just acted some semblance of decency.  But it's a race right now and the maths prove it out.  The 20mm Trumpers that were "discovered" between 2015-2021...there's a finite shelf-life to them.  they'll either return to complacency/GOP ambivalence and disengage politically and/or die in the next few cycles.  So you have to hurry up and appeal to them to capture the momentum.  It's an eventual race to the bottom but there is a short-term gain to be had there. 

That's all Trump bootlicking was about.  You can gerrymander, stack courts to decide voter suppression efforts on your behalf, get an upper-hand in fundraising/PAC activity, etc.  Or just follow Drogin's playbook with Cruz from 2012.  His digitized targeting of people feeling marginalized, combined with Cambridge Analytica, and some super PAC work...they found out a short-cut that's not only easier, but cheaper, and completely legal---just appeal to the lowest common denominator and encourage them to come out and participate in politics feeling like they're special again.  They found the ~20mm voters that were missing from the GOP all along and just messaged them accordingly.  And now, if their messiah is gone---someone else needs to shepherd them or at least half of them will fade back into the woodwork.  Drogin envisioned all of this, give him credit, almost 10 years ago, but didn't quite have the technology nor the budget.  But now, it's in the hands of thousands of political consultants and campaign managers.  And there's a short fuse on how long somebody can exploit this group for their own means.  It'll be a footnote in textbooks 50 years from now, but there's 20+ years left in the tank on this thing still.  It just needs a driver.  

.....and all roads point to the Thelma-and-Louise cliff.  The big question is....will the rest of us (the country) be passengers in the car when it goes over?

The GOP has decided, without hesitation or equivocation that 1) they intend to control power in this country, and 2) they're willing to destroy the Republic in order to accomplish that goal.  In short, if they can't have America, all to themselves, then nobody can have ANY of it.

Stop treating the GOP as anything but a poisonous domestic terrorism movement.

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34 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

.....and all roads point to the Thelma-and-Louise cliff.  The big question is....will the rest of us (the country) be passengers in the car when it goes over?

The GOP has decided, without hesitation or equivocation that 1) they intend to control power in this country, and 2) they're willing to destroy the Republic in order to accomplish that goal.  In short, if they can't have America, all to themselves, then nobody can have ANY of it.

Stop treating the GOP as anything but a poisonous domestic terrorism movement.

Hate to agree but I do.  Dade Phelan is obviously trying to build bipartisan support for higher office but there's no fucking way the Texas GOP supports that goddamned RINO Bipartisan traitor (Allan West's words, not mine).  He's been house speaker for a week and his twitter feed is 2:1 criticism from his own party.

Also I'm here to defend Mizzou's J-school because that's where I send tuition checks.  There are a ton of smart people in CoMo who are from other states.

From the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/15/us/politics/josh-hawley-super-pac.html

Former staff members for Claire McCaskill, a Democrat who lost re-election in 2018 to Senator Josh Hawley, have started a super PAC to defeat Mr. Hawley the next time he runs for office — part of a broad backlash against him for leading the effort last week to overturn the results of the presidential election.

“Senators swear an oath to the Constitution and loyalty to this country, not aid and abet an attempted coup against both,” the super PAC’s first ad, posted on Friday, says. The group is called Just Oust Seditious Hacks, a backronym for JOSH.

“Josh Hawley is convinced that his efforts to overturn the 2020 election and deny Joe Biden the presidency — even after helping fuel the U.S. Capitol riots — will make him president in 2024,” the new super PAC said in a statement. “He’s betting that the same far-right, nationalist mobs that supported Donald Trump will put him in the White House to continue Trump’s work. JOSH PAC will run a permanent campaign to stop him now.”

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3 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

in the same vein of "but wait i have a black friend", i actually do have a midget friend*.  he's fantastic and hilarious and he hates any term besides midget.  he thinks it's patronizing and stupid.

of course i only use that term in two instances - when talking about him, or when using the tmc analogy.  both rarely come up, so i sleep ok at night.

 

*his instagram is largely him in a mini-trump outfit, full-on, including wig, doing lip syncs and impressions.  it's pretty great.

Why are we just now learning about this guy?  

He's a perfect fit for this place.  

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1 hour ago, NorthLoop said:

Why do you think it'll stop? Stupid people will always be stupid and poor. And Republicans will take advantage of them forever. These people won't all of a sudden get smarter and realize that they're being used. 

it's about getting your message to them and activating them as voters.  trump did that.  you can't just be the next republican running for president and expect their support, even if trump tells everyone to vote for them.  a good chunk of them will go back to being non-voters if trump is not on the ballot.

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i think everything you need to know about hawley can be illustrated by his own twitter account...the night before the 6th, he went on an absolute tirade on twitter about the 7 or 7 people coming to his house and holding a vigil and leaving a constitution there, calling them "scumbags," "antifa," and all the other nonsense despite no violence or any shenanigans - posting about 8 times about it and linking his fox news interview on ingraham's nutty show claiming his wife and newborn were being threatened, etc...

yet, absolutely nothing about any "scumbags" or anything else about the capitol riot except for a single retweet from his press office with some boilerplate bullshit about thanks to the police, followed up with crying about simon and schuster canceling his grift opportunity.

incredible.

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You all remember Daniel Uhfleder? He's the attorney who walked around the Florida beaches wearing the Grim Reaper costume. He is focusing on Josh Hawley now.

Long series of tweets behind spoiler. I am quite unhappy that Hawley and Cruz will probably have zero repercussions from this episode, that the delay will result in a softening of the memory and nothing will happen. They are going around on Fox and twitter and gaslighting it at this very moment (Hawley) and creating other diversions (Ted) because the chaos benefits them.

 

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On 19/01/2021 at 2:28 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This guy is so bad.  
 

From July 2019

ADL criticizes Missouri senator for speech containing phrases historically used to ‘demean Jews’

https://heartland.adl.org/news/adl-criticizes-missouri-senator-for-speech-containing-phrases-historically-used-to-demean-jews/
 

He knows all the dog whistles. 

Before I even opened that article, based on the headline alone, I knew I was about to see the word "cosmopolitan." The Stephen Millers and jackoff Hawleys love that word and they're seemingly certain that the rest of us aren't familiar with world literature in the 1920's and 30's. You'd have to be a fucking idiot surrounded by poorly read people to think that most of us aren't going to catch on to what you're alluding there. What a fucking asshole.

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6 minutes ago, Chooky said:

Before I even opened that article, based on the headline alone, I knew I was about to see the word "cosmopolitan." The Stephen Millers and jackoff Hawleys love that word and they're seemingly certain that the rest of us aren't familiar with world literature in the 1920's and 30's. You'd have to be a fucking idiot surrounded by poorly read people to think that most of us aren't going to catch on to what you're alluding there. What a fucking asshole.

That they know this and don't care is what we were discussing well over a year ago. They. Don't. Care.

The far right made a move over a decade ago to put some 'academic respectability' on their white robes and hoods. They started to play the long game. The low level Proud Boys will always squabble among themselves, split and reform (see: Identity Evropa and all the other groups), but the Stephen Millers and Josh Hawleys can use them and not get their hands dirty. So, yeah Hawley will trot out the pet phrases and time their release to great effect. Speaking just as the Klan did at the Chamber of Commerce meetings, and when someone says he is a racist, he will turn to his crowd and say, "see what did I tell you?" and they will eat it up.

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On 1/20/2021 at 7:37 AM, sidis said:

i think everything you need to know about hawley can be illustrated by his own twitter account...the night before the 6th, he went on an absolute tirade on twitter about the 7 or 7 people coming to his house and holding a vigil and leaving a constitution there, calling them "scumbags," "antifa," and all the other nonsense despite no violence or any shenanigans - posting about 8 times about it and linking his fox news interview on ingraham's nutty show claiming his wife and newborn were being threatened, etc...

yet, absolutely nothing about any "scumbags" or anything else about the capitol riot except for a single retweet from his press office with some boilerplate bullshit about thanks to the police, followed up with crying about simon and schuster canceling his grift opportunity.

incredible.

still gets me. the complete lack of anything resembling honesty or logic. there is no way at all you will ever reason with this dickhead or these people. none. 

btw A lot of people are saying that Josh Hawley supports domestic terrorism

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19 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Always felt people like hawley and Rafael had “interesting” home lives.  Feels like hawley was homeschooled.

He went to a nice private school. His dad ran a bank, and they lived in Lexington, but he didn't go to high school there, he went to Rockhurst High School in Kansas City--a Jesuit school (tuition now is about 13,000 per year). There was an article in the Kansas City Star (paywalled) that discussed the local residents some of whom were not impressed with him acting like he was a down home boy. The attitude that I picked up from the interview was not unlike the disdain that some Texans have towards Dan Patrick donning jeans and playing cowboy.

So private school, then Stanford, then Yale. Those elites that pretend not to be and wouldn't be caught dead eating an Egg McMuffin at  the McDonald's in Republic, Missouri with their constituents unless they are actively campaigning.

 

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4 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

He went to a nice private school. His dad ran a bank, and they lived in Lexington, but he didn't go to high school there, he went to Rockhurst High School in Kansas City--a Jesuit school (tuition now is about 13,000 per year). There was an article in the Kansas City Star (paywalled) that discussed the local residents some of whom were not impressed with him acting like he was a down home boy. The attitude that I picked up from the interview was not unlike the disdain that some Texans have towards Dan Patrick donning jeans and playing cowboy.

So private school, then Stanford, then Yale. Those elites that pretend not to be and wouldn't be caught dead eating an Egg McMuffin at  the McDonald's in Republic, Missouri with their constituents unless they are actively campaigning.

 

Quite the cosmopolitan. 

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Usually you can trace it back to college. Losers like Josh and ‘Batin Ted

 

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“He was very certain of his political ideology, even at that age, even at 18,” says Brooke Eisele, who also wrote for the Review and was a close friend of Hawley’s from the time they both lived in the same freshman dorm. “I think a lot of us came in with our predispositions and kind of felt things out and shaped ourselves there. He came in with a rock-solid view of the world.”

This is how ideologues are made. If you think you’ve got it all figured out at 18 then you’re a fool in the making.

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27 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

Everyone says the right things after the major insurrection that nearly destroyed democracy, but it will all be fine in 6 months. 

6 weeks, tops. No real punishment is coming to Hawley and Cruz. We can only hope that the don't win re-election, and I won't be holding my breath. By then, half the country will be up in arms about radical left controversy #25,782 on Fox News, and they'll slide right in as "the strong conservatives America needs right now."

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3 hours ago, staboner said:

still gets me. the complete lack of anything resembling honesty or logic. there is no way at all you will ever reason with this dickhead or these people. none. 

btw A lot of people are saying that Josh Hawley supports domestic terrorism

i heard josh hawley killed 5 hookers

 #jhk5h

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