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1 hour ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

Dunk on that thinking all you want. But, the same people that are going to dunk on this are the ones who, for 10 years, assumed "the staff has it under control" while the cfb world passed by. Maybe it's fair not to assume. Especially when you have an understanding of how elite programs evaluate and recruit and you look around and think, this ain't it. Dunk away, but it was a fair criticism in context. 

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1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

Exactly.   And the “he didn’t get enough help narrative” is bullshit regardless.  Our administration was downright desperate for him to succeed for a variety of reasons, culminating with the infamous Driveway Summit where our school president made a house call to beg Tulsa’s pissant offensive coordinator to join the staff.   

Anyone who attended a booster event when Charlie was first hired and toured around the state could see this wasn’t going to work.   That guy was an idiot.

Are the stories that Strong wanted to hire Chad Morris as OC but was turned down by Patterson due to money not accurate? Strong might've lasted longer if he'd made better assistant hires initially but it would've only delayed the inevitable. He was not ever going to win big at Texas.

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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

You’re a good poster, but the Strong part is just wrong. That guy was a fucking dumbass and in over his head from day one. He failed on every front and more help wasn’t going to solve it. Like any bad management hire, simply surrounding him with more resources and people would have only created a costlier mistake. 

 

2 hours ago, Fud said:

Strong seemed to be set up for success at USF. How did that go? 

fair enough, the last part of CTJs comment is absolutely the truth.

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The increased recruiting volume is a welcome improvement as long as it doesn’t become an impersonal, numbers based task. The personal connections with recruits are what wins the deal. It sounds like they are using extra people to help facilitate those personalized interactions which is good. Just don’t make it fake. Kids spot fake a mile away. 

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4 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

The increased recruiting volume is a welcome improvement as long as it doesn’t become an impersonal, numbers based task. The personal connections with recruits are what wins the deal. It sounds like they are using extra people to help facilitate those personalized interactions which is good. Just don’t make it fake. Kids spot fake a mile away. 

I agree. They should definitely use the recruits names, remember what sport they play, and not just refer to them as numbers. 

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1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Are the stories that Strong wanted to hire Chad Morris as OC but was turned down by Patterson due to money not accurate? Strong might've lasted longer if he'd made better assistant hires initially but it would've only delayed the inevitable. He was not ever going to win big at Texas.

Strong was always going to go with Watson. He just needed a reason why he couldn’t get a better OC like Morris. 

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3 hours ago, NoName said:

this is the kind of thing you can say when you are Bama or Clemson or tOSU.

i think Strong could have been ok but was set up to fail from the start with Steve fucking Patterson hiring the guy and then not setting up the support structure around him.

"making the job a lot more difficult than it ever needed to be is Tom Herman's middle name.

Steve Patterson is an epic fuck up but Strong wasn't ready for this type of job.  the support structure wasn't the issue.  he wasn't going to be OK.  OK is what Tom Herman was.

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19 minutes ago, FunkSoulBrother said:

Strong was always going to go with Watson. He just needed a reason why he couldn’t get a better OC like Morris. 

yeah Morris was not attainable as an OC, he knew he'd be a HC the next year. It was just a pie in the sky name thrown out there to get rejected so he could have his real choice.

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Jesus Christ. The people still attempting to explain away Charlie Strong AFTER he inherited a great situation at South Florida and buttfucked it straight back into irrelevance is something to behold. Yes, it was always going to be Watson.  I'm amazed you people forgot that not only did Morris never get real consideration, but Strong ALSO showed no consideration for Lincoln Riley, and Tom Herman allegedly told Strong No, laughing while he did so. So it's even worse than you people seem to remember. All of those were actual names that were available at the time and were presented to Strong. 

"Oh, listen, Charlie was bad, but his support structure was bad." WHO GIVES A FUCK. Strong was fucking horrible. Statistically the worst coach in Texas history, if I'm not mistaken. Just a fucking dud wrapped in stupidity, and he proceeded to move onto his next position and set that on fire while simultaneously trying to extinguish it solely with his own rancid diarrhea. Just bent over and shitting into the flames he kindled. Fuck him. Stop even wasting time trying to fucking equivocate or explain away any aspect of his monumental and complete failure as a HC by whatever metric you may choose to use. Fucking fuck.

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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Jesus Christ. The people still attempting to explain away Charlie Strong AFTER he inherited a great situation at South Florida and buttfucked it straight back into irrelevance is something to behold. Yes, it was always going to be Watson.  I'm amazed you people forgot that not only did Morris never get real consideration, but Strong ALSO showed no consideration for Lincoln Riley, and Tom Herman allegedly told Strong No, laughing while he did so. So it's even worse than you people seem to remember. All of those were actual names that were available at the time and were presented to Strong. 

"Oh, listen, Charlie was bad, but his support structure was bad." WHO GIVES A FUCK. Strong was fucking horrible. Statistically the worst coach in Texas history, if I'm not mistaken. Just a fucking dud wrapped in stupidity, and he proceeded to move onto his next position and set that on fire while simultaneously trying to extinguish it solely with his own rancid diarrhea. Just bent over and shitting into the flames he kindled. Fuck him. Stop even wasting time trying to fucking equivocate or explain away any aspect of his monumental and complete failure as a HC by whatever metric you may choose to use. Fucking fuck.


 

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11 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Jesus Christ. The people still attempting to explain away Charlie Strong AFTER he inherited a great situation at South Florida and buttfucked it straight back into irrelevance is something to behold. Yes, it was always going to be Watson.  I'm amazed you people forgot that not only did Morris never get real consideration, but Strong ALSO showed no consideration for Lincoln Riley, and Tom Herman allegedly told Strong No, laughing while he did so. So it's even worse than you people seem to remember. All of those were actual names that were available at the time and were presented to Strong. 

"Oh, listen, Charlie was bad, but his support structure was bad." WHO GIVES A FUCK. Strong was fucking horrible. Statistically the worst coach in Texas history, if I'm not mistaken. Just a fucking dud wrapped in stupidity, and he proceeded to move onto his next position and set that on fire while simultaneously trying to extinguish it solely with his own rancid diarrhea. Just bent over and shitting into the flames he kindled. Fuck him. Stop even wasting time trying to fucking equivocate or explain away any aspect of his monumental and complete failure as a HC by whatever metric you may choose to use. Fucking fuck.

 

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Spring Game visitors list:

Devon Campbell, Arlington Bowie
BJ Allen, Aledo (TEXAS)
Maalik Murphy, Junipero Serra (CA) (TEXAS)
Trevell Johnson, Arlington Martin (TEXAS)
Armani Winfield, Lewisville (TEXAS) (maybe)

We anticipate this list could grow over the next few days, and there are a few names we're still confirming. We might also see some players just wait until the dead period is lifted in June.

 

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4 hours ago, Lonestar88 said:

We all know Steve Patterson sucked, so I don't know what the argument is. Strong was in over his head, and so was the leadership above him. They aren't mutually exclusive ideas.

Patterson was a bad hire who, not shockingly, made bad hires.  If Strong knew what the hell he was doing he would have demanded certain requirements before taking the job.  

Narrator....Strong did not know what he’s was doing.  

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2 hours ago, Machinator said:

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Spring Game visitors list:

Devon Campbell, Arlington Bowie
BJ Allen, Aledo (TEXAS)
Maalik Murphy, Junipero Serra (CA) (TEXAS)
Trevell Johnson, Arlington Martin (TEXAS)
Armani Winfield, Lewisville (TEXAS) (maybe)

We anticipate this list could grow over the next few days, and there are a few names we're still confirming. We might also see some players just wait until the dead period is lifted in June.

 

Take that shit to the Charlie strong thread 

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7 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

"Oh, listen, Charlie was bad, but his support structure was bad." WHO GIVES A FUCK. Strong was fucking horrible. Statistically the worst coach in Texas history, if I'm not mistaken. Just a fucking dud wrapped in stupidity, and he proceeded to move onto his next position and set that on fire while simultaneously trying to extinguish it solely with his own rancid diarrhea. Just bent over and shitting into the flames he kindled. Fuck him. Stop even wasting time trying to fucking equivocate or explain away any aspect of his monumental and complete failure as a HC by whatever metric you may choose to use. Fucking fuck.

By the metric of Benjamins, he did ok.

 

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7 hours ago, Viper said:

yeah Morris was not attainable as an OC, he knew he'd be a HC the next year. It was just a pie in the sky name thrown out there to get rejected so he could have his real choice.

Well, many of us fan boys wanted Lincoln Riley.  Turns out we paid Watson more than ou paid Riley.  Why are we apologizing for Strong again?  I don't get why some of you love that guy so much.

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Nick Harris:  Full list of recruits expected to visit Texas after dead period

 

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Full list of recruits expected to visit Texas after dead period

Nick Harris
 

The NCAA dead period is finally being lifted after its expiration on May 31 and schools across the country are already getting a head start on scheduling visits for recruits in the 2022, 2023 and 2024 classes.

For Texas, the Longhorns are planning on hosting four visit weekends during the month of June with one of them expected to have a big group of some of the best 2023 recruits in the region and another expected to have just about every major target in the 2022 class.

In this article, we'll take a look at the full list of recruits that are expected to make their way to the Forty Acres in June to see the Texas campus (list is subject to change):

 

2022 PROSPECTS

June 4

Lake Charles (La.) College Prep four-star running back TreVonte' Citizen (official visit)

June 11-13

Frisco (Texas) Liberty four-star wide receiver Evan Stewart (official visit)

Texarkana (Texas) Texas High four-star defensive end Derrick Brown (official visit)

Frisco (Texas) four-star offensive guard Cole Hutson (official visit)

Reno (Nev.) McQueen four-star linebacker Robby Snelling (official visit)

Las Vegas (Nev.) Liberty three-star athlete Anthony Jones (official visit)

June 18-20

Gardena (Calif.) Junipero Serra four-star quarterback Maalik Murphy (official visit)

Lewisville (Texas) four-star wide receiver Armani Winfield (official visit)

Klein (Texas) Cain four-star running back Jaydon Blue (official visit)

Galena Park (Texas) North Shore four-star defensive tackle Kristopher Ross (official visit)

Aledo (Texas) four-star safety Bryan Allen Jr. (official visit)

Arlington (Texas) Martin three-star linebacker Trevell Johnson (official visit)

Galena Park (Texas) North Shore five-star cornerback Denver Harris (official visit)

Humble (Texas) Summer Creek five-star offensive tackle Kelvin Banks (official visit)

El Paso (Texas) Burges four-star running back Tavorus Jones (official visit)

Santa Ana (Calif.) Mater Dei four-star wide receiver C.J. Williams (official visit)

Beaumont (Texas) West Brook four-star safety Bryce Anderson (unofficial visit)

Ponchatoula (La.) five-star safety Jacoby Mathews (unofficial visit)

Bremond (Texas) four-star defensive tackle Jaray Bledsoe (official visit)

Mission Hills (Calif.) Bishop Alemany four-star linebacker Niuafe Tuihalamaka (official visit)

Saint James (La.) four-star wide receiver Shazz Preston (official visit)

Southaven (Miss.) three-star defensive tackle Aaron Bryant (official visit)

Spearman (Texas) four-star athlete Brenen Thompson (unofficial visit)

June 25-27

Port Arthur (Texas) Memorial four-star cornerback Jaylon Guilbeau (official visit)

Hewitt-Trussville (Ala.) four-star defensive end Justice Finkley (official visit)

Pilot Point (Texas) four-star linebacker Ish Harris (official visit)

Buford (Ga.) three-star athlete Isaiah Bond (official visit)

 

2023 PROSPECTS

Note: All 2023 visitors are expected to visit during the June 11-13 weekend. This list will be the most fluid since they will all be unofficial visits with last-second subtractions and additions possible.

New Orleans (La.) Isidore Newman five-star quarterback Arch Manning

El Campo (Texas) five-star running back Rueben Owens

DeSoto (Texas) four-star wide receiver Johntay Cook

North Richland Hills (Texas) three-star wide receiver Ashton Cozart

Odessa (Texas) Permian four-star offensive guard Harris Sewell

Denton (Texas) Ryan five-star defensive end Anthony Hill

Houston (Texas) C.E. King four-star defensive end Dylan Spencer

Katy (Texas) Morton Ranch five-star defensive end David Hicks Jr.

Cypress (Texas) Ranch four-star defensive end Ashton Porter

Arlington (Texas) Martin four-star cornerback Javien Toviano

Shiner (Texas) four-star athlete Dalton Brooks

 

 

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9 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

The increased recruiting volume is a welcome improvement as long as it doesn’t become an impersonal, numbers based task. The personal connections with recruits are what wins the deal. It sounds like they are using extra people to help facilitate those personalized interactions which is good. Just don’t make it fake. Kids spot fake a mile away. 

Thanks, Drew.

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Mike at Night: Notes on spring game visitors

 

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Mike at Night: Notes on spring game visitors

Mike Roach
 

— Five-star offensive lineman Devon Campbell confirmed with me tonight that he would attend the Texas spring game this weekend. This is obviously great news coming just two weeks after Campbell and his uncle took a self-guided trip to Austin. As I reported a few weeks ago, Campbell plans to make several unofficial visits to Texas throughout the year in addition to an official trip in either the summer or fall. Texas remains in an excellent spot for the elite guard prospect, and getting him back to Austin this weekend is an incredibly positive sign.

— I spoke with Maalik Murphy tonight who is booked for a return to Austin this weekend along with his quarterback trainer Danny Hernandez. Murphy is coming off of a shortened junior spring season where he got some valuable game reps. Now that he's headed into his senior year, Murphy has all eyes forward to make sure he can make the most of it before enrolling in school. Murphy said he plans to do some recruiting with the other prospects on campus this weekend and he's recently been texting with guys like Campbell to try and build the 2022 class.

— 2023 DeSoto WR Johntay Cook is a maybe for the game. He'd like to make it but he has a track meet that might interfere with the ability to visit. The same can be said for Rueben Owens. The lone commit in the 2023 class has a track meet that will interfere with his visit as well. There's a report that 2023 quarterback Arch Manning will also be in attendance. We have not confirmed if that's the case or not but we are checking on that. We thought that if he was visiting, Owens would be along with him. The two have been growing a bond as Owens has been trying to get him to Austin and Owens recently spent the day with Manning after traveling to New Orleans for a 7v7 tournament.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

Can we please stop bringing up previous coaches in this forum? I’d prefer to get out of that nightmare loop. If I’m successful and need to fucking torture myself, I’ll visit the appropriate football threads. Thank you... no, fuck you!

DKR was a good coach so stfu bitch.

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I was over at Lewisville this afternoon to catch up with Texas commit Armani Winfield and top 2023 target Jordan Renaud.

*** Unfortunately, I was told when I arrived that Winfield would not be practicing this afternoon. Winfield recently underwent a medical procedure which had been holding him out of practice for the week.

I was able to dig up that Winfield did make a trip down to Austin a couple of weeks ago which is more than a good sign for his commitment status. I think it goes without saying, but Winfield is unlikely to make it back to Austin this weekend.

 

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247 in-state top 30... yikes

1) Quinn Ewers
2) Caleb Burton
3) Omari Abor
4) Harold Perkins
5) Denver Harris
6) Devon Campbell
7) Malick Sylla
'8) Jaydon Blue
9) Kelvin Banks
10) Conner Weigman
11) Evan Stewart
12) Bryce Anderson
13) Bryan Allen Jr
14) Cade Klubnik
15) Jaylon Guilbeau
16) Kobie McKinzie
17) Bear Alexander
18) PJ Williams
19) Donovan Green
20) Terrance Brooks
21) Hunter Erb
22) Chace Biddle
23) Jamarion Miller
24) Chris Marshall
25) Julian Humphrey
26) Armani Winfield
27) Brenen Thompson
28) Austin Jordan
29) Tavorus Jones
30) Jaylen Early


32) Jordan Hudson
34) Kam Dewberry
40) Jaray Bledsoe
42) Kip Lewis
45) Neto Umeozulu
46) Kristopher Ross
57) Cole Hutson
64) Derrick Brown
71) Connor Robertson
79) Trevell Johnson

They have Maalik Murphy at #69 in the country (nice) and #8 in California

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3 minutes ago, Fud said:

247 in-state top 30... yikes

1) Quinn Ewers
2) Caleb Burton
3) Omari Abor
4) Harold Perkins
5) Denver Harris
6) Devon Campbell
7) Malick Sylla
'8) Jaydon Blue
9) Kelvin Banks
10) Conner Weigman
11) Evan Stewart
12) Bryce Anderson
13) Bryan Allen Jr
14) Cade Klubnik
15) Jaylon Guilbeau
16) Kobie McKinzie
17) Bear Alexander
18) PJ Williams
19) Donovan Green
20) Terrance Brooks
21) Hunter Erb
22) Chace Biddle
23) Jamarion Miller
24) Chris Marshall
25) Julian Humphrey
26) Armani Winfield
27) Brenen Thompson
28) Austin Jordan
29) Tavorus Jones
30) Jaylen Early


32) Jordan Hudson
34) Kam Dewberry
40) Jaray Bledsoe
42) Kip Lewis
45) Neto Umeozulu
46) Kristopher Ross
57) Cole Hutson
64) Derrick Brown
71) Connor Robertson
79) Trevell Johnson

They have Maalik Murphy at #69 in the country (nice) and #8 in California

Caleb Burton at #2 is some kind of choice. Not a good one, mind you.

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Updated Top247

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1. Quinn Ewers (Ohio State)

8. Caleb Burton (Ohio State)

11. Omari Abor

16. Kevin Coleman

18. Harold Perkins

20. Denver Harris

23. Devon Campbell

30. Malick Sylla (Texas A&M)

31. Jaydon Blue (Texas)

34. Kelvin Banks

36. Conner Weigman (Texas A&M)

37. Evan Stewart

42. Kamari Wilson

47. CJ Williams

51. Raleek Brown (OU)

55. Jacoby Mathews

59. Bryce Anderson

60. Bryan Allen Jr. (Texas)

64. Cade Klubnik (Clemson)

66. Jaylon Guilbeau (Texas)

67. Earnest Greene

68. Kobie McKinzie (OU)

69. Maalik Murphy (Texas)

81. Bear Alexander (Georgia)

82. PJ Williams (Texas A&M)

95. Donovan Green (Texas A&M)

98. Shazz Preston

99. Hero Kanu

102. Terrance Brooks

104. Hunter Erb (Texas A&M)

109. Chace Biddle

116. Justice Finkley

119. Jamarion Miller

120. Niuafe Tuihalamaka

125. Chris Marshall

128. Julian Humphrey

134. Armani Winfield (Texas)

140. Talyn Shettron (OU)

143. Jovantae Barnes

153. Sebastian Cheeks

163. Brenen Thompson

165. Austin Jordan

167. Tavorus Jones

174. Jaylen Early

181. DJ Allen

185. Jordan Hudson (OU)

189. Isaiah Sategna (Texas A&M)

199. Ephesians Prysock

201. TreVonte' Citizen

207. DJ Wesolak

214. Bobby Taylor (Texas A&M)

222. Kam Dewberry

230. Jadarian Price (Notre Dame)

237. Isaiah Bond

239. Cristian Driver

 

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37 minutes ago, Fud said:

247 in-state top 30... yikes

1) Quinn Ewers
2) Caleb Burton
3) Omari Abor
4) Harold Perkins
5) Denver Harris
6) Devon Campbell
7) Malick Sylla
'8) Jaydon Blue
9) Kelvin Banks
10) Conner Weigman
11) Evan Stewart
12) Bryce Anderson
13) Bryan Allen Jr
14) Cade Klubnik
15) Jaylon Guilbeau
16) Kobie McKinzie
17) Bear Alexander
18) PJ Williams
19) Donovan Green
20) Terrance Brooks
21) Hunter Erb
22) Chace Biddle
23) Jamarion Miller
24) Chris Marshall
25) Julian Humphrey
26) Armani Winfield
27) Brenen Thompson
28) Austin Jordan
29) Tavorus Jones
30) Jaylen Early


32) Jordan Hudson
34) Kam Dewberry
40) Jaray Bledsoe
42) Kip Lewis
45) Neto Umeozulu
46) Kristopher Ross
57) Cole Hutson
64) Derrick Brown
71) Connor Robertson
79) Trevell Johnson

They have Maalik Murphy at #69 in the country (nice) and #8 in California

Burton at 2 is certainly something. Hudson, Bledsoe, Derrick Brown and Neto all seem very underrated. I'd say Hutson, Ish Harris, and Trevell Johnson are underrated too.  I see Elko and Fong are keeping the romance alive. A looooot of aggy love in those rankings. 

 

21 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Movement of Texas commits:

Blue up 1

Murphy down 6

Allen down 2

Winfield down 7

FWIW, their grades all stayed the same. It was just guys moving up and down around them.

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IT on Denvis Harris: 

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CB Denver Harris, North Shore (2022):

The five-star defensive back will be headed to Austin this weekend, sources tell IT. At 6-foot-1, 180 pounds, Harris, who holds 38 offers, continues to hear from his top four of Texas, Alabama, LSU, and Texas A&M.

Teammate and Texas commit Kristopher Ross is unable to attend due to a regional track meet.

Harris joins the spring game visitor list:

OL Devon Campbell, Arlington Bowie
S BJ Allen, Aledo (TEXAS)
QB Maalik Murphy, Junipero Serra (CA) (TEXAS)
LB Trevell Johnson, Arlington Martin (TEXAS)
DL David Oke, Alief Hastings (Houston, TX)
CB Denver Harris, North Shore
DL Jordan Renaud, Lewisville (2023)

Great news getting him on campus. Wonder if we see that list grow more over the next few days.

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Here's the full post from Wells and Hamilton:

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The top in-state corner will see Austin this weekend, and the latest on 2022 defensive line targets. Enjoy the evening news.

CB Denver Harris, North Shore (2022):

The five-star defensive back will be headed to Austin this weekend, sources tell IT. At 6-foot-1, 180 pounds, Harris, who holds 38 offers, continues to hear from his top four of Texas, Alabama, LSU, and Texas A&M.

Teammate and Texas commit Kristopher Ross is unable to attend due to a regional track meet.

Harris joins the spring game visitor list:

OL Devon Campbell, Arlington Bowie
S BJ Allen, Aledo (TEXAS)
QB Maalik Murphy, Junipero Serra (CA) (TEXAS)
LB Trevell Johnson, Arlington Martin (TEXAS)
DL David Oke, Alief Hastings (Houston, TX)
CB Denver Harris, North Shore
DL Jordan Renaud, Lewisville (2023)

DL Quency Wiggins, Madison Prep (Baton Rouge, LA) (2022):

UT went into Louisiana looking for an interior defensive lineman recently. The 6-foot-6, 265-pound composite four-star holds 24 offers including LSU, Auburn, Florida, Arizona State, and USC.

“It’s been really great and slow," said Wiggins, about the recruiting process. "I don't have any top schools yet."

The dual-sport dude also plays basketball for Madison Prep, hears a lot from Michigan and Florida State, and isn't ready to make any type of decision. However, he has an idea what he's looking for.

"I’m just looking to play and a place that feels like home," Wiggins said.

He seemed a little indifferent when discussing the Longhorns, so we'll see how much they pursue moving forward.

DT Bear Alexander, Fort Worth Brewer (2022) (GEORGIA):

The 6-foot-3, 325-pound composite five-star continues to hear from the Texas staff. The Georgia pledge also stays close to Alabama and Texas A&M, and will likely make June official visits to destinations other than Athens.

The Max Preps second-team junior All American has relocated to Brewer HS in Fort Worth, following stops in Terrell, Dallas Skyline, and Denton Ryan, where he helped the Raiders win the 5A D1 state championship. Texas DL coach Bo Davis still stays close to Alexander, and is trying to get him on campus in June.

 

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