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You know, the longer she is in office, the more I think she is a big part of the party's future.  Certain policy positions give me pause, but she is tough as nails, smart as hell, she prepares well for her duties and she works her ass off.

Remind me again why she ISN'T a legitimate rising superstar?

I think she mostly scares the shit out of her colleagues.  She has raised the bar and they hate it.

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36 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Remind me again why she ISN'T a legitimate rising superstar?

I think she mostly scares the shit out of her colleagues.  She has raised the bar and they hate it.

The democrats are a "big tent" party. Many people inside that tent think she's too radical. That's pretty much the gist of it. 

Reps don't have this issue because they are appealing to an almost monolithic constituency that is only concerned with abortion, jesus, guns, and muh freedom. 

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

You know, the longer she is in office, the more I think she is a big part of the party's future.  Certain policy positions give me pause, but she is tough as nails, smart as hell, she prepares well for her duties and she works her ass off.

Remind me again why she ISN'T a legitimate rising superstar?

I think she mostly scares the shit out of her colleagues.  She has raised the bar and they hate it.

I like her because she doesn’t abide by the old Democrat tradition of asking the Republicans to politely stop as they push in the knife. 

But she is the boogeyman for sure. The Pubs have painted her as such. I’ve had talks recently with fellow centrist are like, whoa, she’s way too radical, but they can’t really explain why. I guess the Green New Deal fits. But other than that 

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11 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

I like her because she doesn’t abide by the old Democrat tradition of asking the Republicans to politely stop as they push in the knife. 

But she is the boogeyman for sure. The Pubs have painted her as such. I’ve had talks recently with fellow centrist are like, whoa, she’s way too radical, but they can’t really explain why. I guess the Green New Deal fits. But other than that 

Yeah, she certainly seems like she believes in her convictions and isn't afraid to say so. That's a positive quality in any legislature in my book, and one that seems to be sorely lacking. There is a lot of stuff she says that I disagree with, but I respect where she is coming from and actually believe that her positions reflect her convictions. That's a lot more than can be said of most politicians on both sides of the aisle.

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11 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

I like her because she doesn’t abide by the old Democrat tradition of asking the Republicans to politely stop as they push in the knife. 

But she is the boogeyman for sure. The Pubs have painted her as such. I’ve had talks recently with fellow centrist are like, whoa, she’s way too radical, but they can’t really explain why. I guess the Green New Deal fits. But other than that 

Really easy.  She leans into the Socialist brand.  Now, her flavor is "democratic socialist" and she can try to intellectualize it, but for many in the country, the term "socialism" or "socialist" is a bridge too far, even if we have many policies rooted in socialist theories such as social security or medicare.  Then add in her robust criticism of capitalism and you're going to make it easy for some to brand her "radical".  She's not really, but most Americans aren't really interested in understanding policy or political theory.

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10 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Really easy.  She leans into the Socialist brand.  Now, her flavor is "democratic socialist" and she can try to intellectualize it, but for many in the country, the term "socialism" or "socialist" is a bridge too far, even if we have many policies rooted in socialist theories such as social security or medicare.  Then add in her robust criticism of capitalism and you're going to make it easy for some to brand her "radical".  She's not really, but most Americans aren't really interested in understanding policy or political theory.

She's also assimilating into status quo neoliberalism. Which is really disappointing.

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4 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Really easy.  She leans into the Socialist brand.  Now, her flavor is "democratic socialist" and she can try to intellectualize it, but for many in the country, the term "socialism" or "socialist" is a bridge too far, even if we have many policies rooted in socialist theories such as social security or medicare.  Then add in her robust criticism of capitalism and you're going to make it easy for some to brand her "radical".  She's not really, but most Americans aren't really interested in understanding policy or political theory.

Nah, I think most folks around here think that her Green New Deal, while well intentioned, is poorly thought out and is set to a timeline  that will likely lead to as much or more destruction than the benefits it champions. I think her ideals are pure, but she is an economics graduate (or so I seem to recall)who worked as a bartender before being elected. Most companies figure on it taking a good five years or so before an employee really becomes proficient in their field. Give her five years and let's see what happens.

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22 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:
On 12/21/2020 at 4:26 PM, HenryJames said:
 

I agree with her. However, I also think that legislation should be more targeted. A bill shouldn't be hundreds of pages long with a lot of unnecessary, unrelated things added in.

This. And our legislature needs to quite creating agencies that fall under executive jurisdiction to do their jobs. I get that that has to happen to some extent, but they have basically just decided that they don't have a responsibility to govern any more and are just content to sit back and get rich off of the fruits of their elected positions at our expense. 

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The curiosity is, will she become compromised, or just tired of it.  Quit maybe.

I think a fair number of legislators/politicians started out like her, maybe not burning so brightly, and turn into Chuck Grassley.  Or Pelosi.  Or whatever old turd you want to name.

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34 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Nah, I think most folks around here think that her Green New Deal, while well intentioned, is poorly thought out and is set to a timeline  that will likely lead to as much or more destruction than the benefits it champions. I think her ideals are pure, but she is an economics graduate (or so I seem to recall)who worked as a bartender before being elected. Most companies figure on it taking a good five years or so before an employee really becomes proficient in their field. Give her five years and let's see what happens.

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22 minutes ago, Orale said:

What do you mean?

He is parroting Jimmy Dore's criticism of AOC for not pushing harder with threats. 

This is no time for threats. That's unfortunate, but that is reality. AOC and almost all progressives know that. And - progressives do care about making tomorrow better. Priority one is additional help to families and making sure the guardrails hold up in the waning days of trump. 

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Cruz is clearly incapable of learning the three principal "Never"s: never get involved in a land war in Asia, never go to court over the lunch hour, and never get into a social media spat with AOC.

10 hours ago, Captainant said:

IIRC she was named chair of the oversight committee. 

So that's a bingo

Carolyn Maloney of New York is the new chair, but Katie Porter and her whiteboard was added to the committee during the offseason. So the bottom of the batting order during witness questioning is AOC-Pressley-Tlaib-Porter-Deb Halland. That's a hell of a lineup to close questioning with.

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9 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

The Lumpenproletariat angle of scum and villainy is trumpian. You trumpian? 

Supporting progressive policies isn't 'Trumpian'. Trump is one of the worst presidents in U.S. history so you're speaking to the wrong guy. I am starting to notice any valid critique of Dems is being labeled as such. Which is oddly a Trumpian tactic. 

 

8 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

He is parroting Jimmy Dore's criticism of AOC for not pushing harder with threats. 

This is no time for threats. That's unfortunate, but that is reality. AOC and almost all progressives know that. And - progressives do care about making tomorrow better. Priority one is additional help to families and making sure the guardrails hold up in the waning days of trump. 

It isn't in either/or. You can do both while removing the dipshit from office. I will say I underestimated how much of whiny bitch he would be if he lost. Do whatever it takes to prevent him from doing more damage, get his ass out, and now let's get to work. 

 

9 hours ago, Foosters said:

Well, he equated the insurrection at the Capitol with BLM going after a police station, so your guess is as good as mine.

I didn't say they were the same. I don't like it when police shoot unarmed people. That opinion is never going to change regardless of what unarmed person is on the other side of the gun.

 

 

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19 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The curiosity is, will she become compromised, or just tired of it.  Quit maybe.

I think a fair number of legislators/politicians started out like her, maybe not burning so brightly, and turn into Chuck Grassley.  Or Pelosi.  Or whatever old turd you want to name.

I have zero idea what the future holds for Congresswoman Cortez and whether that will be a future in politics or outside of it. I feel that she will be successful in whatever she chooses to do because she has the ability to think within a construct that in inclusive and helps out as many people as possible and not just those that currently agree with her. She can see a bigger picture and how the decisions made today impact our lives and world years from now. 

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Any investor or trader who is net short on a stock or sector should have some type of hedge in place to protect against a run in the underlying.  This should be obvious to a HEDGE fund.  If they can't adequately manage their risk, then they are fools and deserve any bad trading outcomes that might come their way.

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Any investor or trader who is net short on a stock or sector should have some type of hedge in place to protect against a run in the underlying.  This should be obvious to a HEDGE fund.  If they can't adequately manage their risk, then they are fools and deserve any bad trading outcomes that might come their way.

This is correct.  Melvin Capital really doesn't deserve to be in business because...... they're bad at it.

 

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2 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

His supporters never see him getting smacked down.  They see him "standing up" to a minority female socialist.  Her reaction never enters their minds.

It's not just AOC. He sat there and smiled while Trump pissed in his mouth, too. Dude must be an extreme masochist in private.  

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