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The GQP: Trumpist Death Cult


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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

In 6 months, it’ll be “Donald who? What’s a Trump?”

 

22 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Be proud that we ended fiscal austerity as the “conservative” party that’s about to spend 4 years criticizing big spending Biden.   That’s rich.  We’re proud we made that deal with the devil!  Our house burned down and our wives left us, but at least we also got herpes!

they had no problem ending fiscal austerity as long as it lined their pockets with gold.

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3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

GOP may end up spawning a modern day Bull Moose Party (Diaper Dan Party) except Trump will have a media empire behind him.  The civil war could be inside the GOP and may take a couple of cycles, if not more (how long will Don live?), to recover.  GOP establishment can marginalize him in policy and legislative influence but Don never cared about any of those.  He simply wanted the adulation of the job and will continue to be a disrupter to them with his brand of red state populism.  Play stupid games..... win stupid prizes.  They'll have deserved it.

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52 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Be proud that we ended fiscal austerity as the “conservative” party that’s about to spend 4 years criticizing big spending Biden.   That’s rich.  We’re proud we made that deal with the devil!  Our house burned down and our wives left us, but at least we also got herpes!

 

29 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

 

they had no problem ending fiscal austerity as long as it lined their pockets with gold.

It all makes sense to those who always realized that the GOP was never for fiscal austerity. The Republican Party has always been about wealth redistribution from the people to the oligarchs. I get a lot of shit wrong but quickly recognizing in my first 5 years as a voter that Republicans absolutely weren't fiscally conservative in any real sense was a good one to get right.

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13 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

It all makes sense to those who always realized that the GOP was never for fiscal austerity. The Republican Party has always been about wealth redistribution from the people to the oligarchs. I get a lot of shit wrong but quickly recognizing in my first 5 years as a voter that Republicans absolutely weren't fiscally conservative in any real sense was a good one to get right.

But they put it on the banner!

 

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28 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

be sure to tune in this afternoon for the "flailing and screaming on the walmart floor" phase of your grand old party metamorphosis. get it all out kiddo we're taking you home for a nap

I've got the house to myself today with very little work to get done. I've also got a bunch of weed. My tentative plan is to get stoned out of my mind and watch the destruction of the GOP in real time. If I also happen to catch a bunch of fascists getting clubbed and maced, then that's just gravy.

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10 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I've got the house to myself today with very little work to get done. I've also got a bunch of weed. My tentative plan is to get stoned out of my mind and watch the destruction of the GOP in real time. If I also happen to catch a bunch of fascists getting clubbed and maced, then that's just gravy.

Don't forget to delete your browser history, pervert. 

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27 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

 

It all makes sense to those who always realized that the GOP was never for fiscal austerity. The Republican Party has always been about wealth redistribution from the people to the oligarchs. I get a lot of shit wrong but quickly recognizing in my first 5 years as a voter that Republicans absolutely weren't fiscally conservative in any real sense was a good one to get right.

I clearly remember in the 50s when I asked my dad "What's the difference between Democrats and Republicans?"  He replied "Republicans are for rich people, Democrats are for people like us".  I think of this every time I ride around and notice that most of the Republican campaign signs are in front of the biggest houses and newest cars, boats, atvs, wtfever.

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1 minute ago, AnTiM said:

I clearly remember in the 50s when I asked my dad "What's the difference between Democrats and Republicans?"  He replied "Republicans are for rich people, Democrats are for people like us".  I think of this every time I ride around and notice that most of the Republican campaign signs are in front of the biggest houses and newest cars, boats, atvs, wtfever.

Much harder to put demographics in baskets these days. A poor white person is much more likely to vote for Trump than a rich white person. 

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2 minutes ago, J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. said:

Ohh yes Senator, keep trying to reason with these people, let us know how that works out. Reminds me of the time protesters took over the lobby of my old building where Transcanada (keystone pipeline) officed. I tried to have a polite conversation with one of the hipster protesters trying to explain piping oil and safer than putting it on trucks or trains, which was the alternative. In response, he and his friends burst into a "hell no, we won't go" chant and I learned a valuable lesson, a lesson Senator Young is in the process of learning now. 

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3 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

GOP may end up spawning a modern day Bull Moose Party (Diaper Dan Party) except Trump will have a media empire behind him.  The civil war could be inside the GOP and may take a couple of cycles, if not more (how long will Don live?), to recover.  GOP establishment can marginalize him in policy and legislative influence but Don never cared about any of those.  He simply wanted the adulation of the job and will continue to be a disrupter to them with his brand of red state populism.  Play stupid games..... win stupid prizes.  They'll have deserved it.

The Civil War has begun..... and it's with violence.  Who could have seen this?

 

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Today is the culmination of the GOP's embrace of outright lies as an integral part of their campaigning.  Once you convince folks to believe lies. And then you help amplify the lies, embrace the lies, coddle the lies, here is where you end up.  A huge swath of the Republican party willing to overthrow Democracy over lies.  When Senators and Congressmen embrace the lies and use them to put on a political show, it's dangerous.

Of course like Ari Fleisher said... it's really the Dem's fault....

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I love that Trump's kids, as well as Trump, are vowing to primary and defeat anybody not loyal to him.

I fucking love this.  Would be awesome if we got a new and competent party out of the ashes, that I'd be willing to vote Republican  again (or Whig or whatever if you're armybrat), but I don't see that happening.  Too many individuals/chefs in the kitchen, who are far too greedy and who only want something to boost their stature, that aren't willing to build something that will last beyond an election cycle or two.

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4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I love that Trump's kids, as well as Trump, are vowing to primary and defeat anybody not loyal to him.

I fucking love this.  Would be awesome if we got a new and competent party out of the ashes, that I'd be willing to vote Republican  again (or Whig or whatever if you're armybrat), but I don't see that happening.  Too many individuals/chefs in the kitchen, who are far too greedy and who only want something to boost their stature, that aren't willing to build something that will last beyond an election cycle or two.

I will never vote for "this" Republican party again.

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I love that Trump's kids, as well as Trump, are vowing to primary and defeat anybody not loyal to him.
I fucking love this.  Would be awesome if we got a new and competent party out of the ashes, that I'd be willing to vote Republican  again (or Whig or whatever if you're armybrat), but I don't see that happening.  Too many individuals/chefs in the kitchen, who are far too greedy and who only want something to boost their stature, that aren't willing to build something that will last beyond an election cycle or two.

This is so far beyond even considering right now. Anyone associated with the Republican Party from 2016-21, in any way, is irredeemable.
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36 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I will never vote for "this" Republican party again.

Well "this" Republican Party is pretty much dead.  Between the imagery from today, and the Trumps vowing war on any sane Republicans going forward....2022 is gonna be fun.  Trumps do know how to hold one helluva grudge.

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I will never vote for "this" Republican party again.


I quit voting Republican at the 2016 election (couldn’t vote for Hillary either - hate that woman). I don’t see myself voting republican ever again. I have nothing in common with these idiots whatsoever. I had D campaign posters in my yard this November for the first time. I’m guessing there’s a whole lot like me.
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I quit voting Republican at the 2016 election (couldn’t vote for Hillary either - hate that woman). I don’t see myself voting republican ever again. I have nothing in common with these idiots whatsoever. I had D campaign posters in my yard this November for the first time. I’m guessing there’s a whole lot like me.

This. Had been a lifelong R and voted for Mitt, even though the Mormon thing kinda bugs me, but he’s a decent human being who respects other views. Voted Johnson in 2016 and Biden in 2020. Gonna take some massive change before I can see ever voting R again in a presidential election.
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I'm one of the very few*actual* Socialists in the Democratic party, and even I recognize the need for a strong, principled Conservative party. 

It wasn't that many years ago that the GOP could have addressed increasingly unfavorable demographic trends by deciding to offer a brand of conservatism that would be acceptable to a meaningful minority of people of color; to take a true conservative stand that the government has no reason to be concerned with who a person chooses to love and build a life with; and to push for conservative solutions to the fact that a sizeable majority of Americans have not benefited very much from the efficiency and productivity gains of the last 50 years.  All of this was on the table as recently as the 90s.  By instead relying on the Evangelical wing of the party to make the gains needed to counteract shifting demographics, they painted themselves into an increasingly smaller corner-- to the detriment of the country.

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I'm actually seeing a bit of rationality out of the few Trumpy friends I have on social media. My long-time buddy who is a cop and his wife are your very typical Trumpers, and both of them posted that yesterday was unacceptable. The wife even posted that she blames Trump and vented that she supported him through everything but this was too much.

Granted, they're engaging with their friends who are claiming that they are all Antifa plants, but it's half-hearted wishcasting. 

Most of my friends that are Trump supporters are on the more intelligent side of the Trump spectrum, granted. And the particular people I'm talking about are not at all the racist, xenophobic types. And of course there are still a good number of morons who support and revel in what happened yesterday, and we can't fix that. But what happened yesterday did offend even some of Trump's most hardcore supporters. It's good to see.

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Fuck this clown. And yes, their voices ARE being silenced because they spew racist anti-democratic, hateful, conspiracy theory, violent shit. No one wants you. No one likes your point of view. The clan members are sad they’re not getting their way. Boo hoo 

Socialists are not taking over the country you fear mongering pussy. Allowing mail in voting during a pandemic didn’t lead to massive fraud or illegals voting or ballot harvesting BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. 
 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Fuck this clown. And yes, their voices ARE being silenced because they spew racist anti-democratic, hateful, conspiracy theory, violent shit. No one wants you. No one likes your point of view. The clan members are sad they’re not getting their way. Boo hoo 

Socialists are not taking over the country you fear mongering pussy. Allowing mail in voting during a pandemic didn’t lead to massive fraud or illegals voting or ballot harvesting BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. 
 

 

 

He doesn't wash his hands after going to the bathroom.  

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19 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Fuck this clown. And yes, their voices ARE being silenced because they spew racist anti-democratic, hateful, conspiracy theory, violent shit. No one wants you. No one likes your point of view. The clan members are sad they’re not getting their way. Boo hoo 

Socialists are not taking over the country you fear mongering pussy. Allowing mail in voting during a pandemic didn’t lead to massive fraud or illegals voting or ballot harvesting BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. 
 

 

 

Well said.  This should be said to every magat moron out there.

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13 hours ago, BuckeyeInSeattle said:

I'm one of the very few*actual* Socialists in the Democratic party, and even I recognize the need for a strong, principled Conservative party. 

It wasn't that many years ago that the GOP could have addressed increasingly unfavorable demographic trends by deciding to offer a brand of conservatism that would be acceptable to a meaningful minority of people of color; to take a true conservative stand that the government has no reason to be concerned with who a person chooses to love and build a life with; and to push for conservative solutions to the fact that a sizeable majority of Americans have not benefited very much from the efficiency and productivity gains of the last 50 years.  All of this was on the table as recently as the 90s.  By instead relying on the Evangelical wing of the party to make the gains needed to counteract shifting demographics, they painted themselves into an increasingly smaller corner-- to the detriment of the country.

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So just like Trump said, "I could incite a riot, say I am going to lead the riot, have somebody killed in the riot, have the capitol breached in a coup attempt...

.. and the Republican Party wouldn't do anything but continue to support me!" 

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About fucking time.

https://www.axios.com/hawley-cruz-business-fundraising-37422251-5be0-4c49-9242-4394f54bc2f7.html

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Many of America's top businesspeople have had enough of political pandering to the mob, and plan to deny future contributions to those who egged it on.

Why it matters: Senators like Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz may have been auditioning for 2024 presidential runs, but have alienated some of those who could have helped fund those campaigns.

 

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On Monday night, 36 hours before the insurrection, Yale School of Management professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld invited a group of high-profile CEOs and investors to a virtual meeting at 7am the following morning, to discuss expected congressional objections to the presidential certification process.

This was the second such meeting since the election, the first of which was on Nov. 6 after President Trump made clear that he favored conspiracy over concession. The group also met after George Floyd's murder, and has regularly held in-person gatherings over the years, usually with Chatham House rules.

 

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One attendee told Axios yesterday morning: "The amount of anger at these 11 senators was more intense than any I can recall directed with so much universality. There is real anger at these people, particularly Hawley and Cruz, that they don't really understand. ... We all know we need public/private partnership to get through this pandemic, and these 11 are doing something they know is wrong, which hurts those efforts, for purely personal reasons."

Sonnenfeld says that polling shows CEOs are currently among America's most trusted institutional voices, and that several urged him to convene the Tuesday meeting.

 

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Sources say that one topic of conversation, and agreement, was to no longer financially support congressional election deniers, either directly or indirectly (via PACs, etc). And possibly to support primary challengers.

There is some skepticism that participants will stick to this informal and private pledge, but Sonnenfeld expects that outside groups like the Lincoln Project and academics will call public attention to those who stray.

He adds that Hawley is in a particularly precarious position, as he has no seniority that would tempt some CEOs to trade principle for access.

 

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Reason 874 why the Dems are bad at winning or changing idiot people minds.

They should be on tv right now bashing the republicans for allowing this to happen and blaming them more then trump for this. They need to be targeting the senators who are up for re-election in 2 years and tie them to trump. Benghazi and capital overrun with the deaths.

the Rs will just blame trump and escape untouched.

blame these fucks and tie them together 

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