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9 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Like this is a surprise.

 

TL;DR.  A small county GOP party in Wisconsin asked its members to adopt a resolution considering non-violence by all political parties.  It was rejected.

 

https://thebulwark.com/wisconsin-republicans-refuse-to-condemn-political-violence/

 

 

 

 

[A]ll political parties have a civic responsibility to promote their ideals in as productive a way as possible . . . all violence and all actions that may condone violence to attain political ends are destructive to our governance as well as our democratic way of life.

 

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Additionally, the resolution called for a free, open, and civil discourse in the political arena which serves to uphold Republican goals in a unifying rather than a divisive manner. It opposed violence as a means to any political end and condemned all political violence of the past year, be it by members of political parties or by organizations in support of political parties or party agendas.

Finally, it condemned any ongoing or future violence, as well as any incitement to same, used as a calculated means to achieve political ends.

The resolution was considered by the Oconto County GOP at the party’s 2021 Caucus on February 13.

After what has been described by caucus-goers as a “lively back and forth” concerning the intent of and need for such a resolution, the caucus voted the resolution down on a voice vote—estimated for us by attendees at roughly 55 percent against and 45 percent in favor.

There was the sense from those opposed to the resolution that they did not need to be told “what is right and wrong,” so it appears to have struck a personal nerve with some even though we carefully drafted the resolution to express an organizational message that condemned uncivil actions and not specific parties or individuals.

There are, of course, many possible motivating factors behind any individual vote. But we do have some survey data as context. A recent American Survey Center poll found that nearly 4 in 10 Republicans see a legitimate place for political violence in our political discourse.

Which isn’t all that far from the 55 percent who voted against our resolution.

Beyond our wholehearted support for the sentiment and the focus of the resolution, we were also interested to learn how our fellow Republican party members (and the party apparatus) would react to an internal petition in favor of more neighborliness and less tribalism in the day-to-day maneuverings within our political process.

For us, the defeat of the resolution, while not entirely unforeseen, carries some disappointment. We saw it as a straightforward first step to restoring political civility and building on traditional Republican principles going forward—and we decided to start this movement within our own sphere of political acceptance and influence. With our neighbors.

We are still unabashedly Republicans and it is clear to us that Republican organizations, at all levels, are facing an influx of new members who do not have much in the way of knowledge, history, or appreciation of traditional Republican principles.

This can sometimes be a good thing—there’s a reason organizations value fresh blood. But it can also be a bad thing if many of the new members are less interested in political philosophies and more interested in anger and indignation. What happens then is that instead of the party being infused with new energy and thinking, it devolves into a vector for rancor and division.

Which is why, in recent months, the focus of many local GOP organizations has shifted away from solving problems and toward blowing things up.

At least in our neighborhood, we can now see that a number of these newly enlisted Republicans appear to have come to the GOP not for the ideology or the philosophy, but for the signs, the flags and, the fight.

So much so that they can’t even bring themselves to assert the most basic of our shared values: That violence has no place in democratic life.

 

 

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On 2/20/2021 at 3:44 PM, Mrs Whiggins said:

Bannon is toxic to democracy..

 

 

 

 

Oh, I absolutely love this.  This is something you can hang around ever Trumpublican congressional candidate.  Just ask the question: "if elected, would you support naming Donald Trump as Speaker of the House?".  

There's no good answer.  "Yes" alienates independents and loses you any hope of winning in the suburbs.  "No" pisses off your MAGAt base.  Evasion is going to piss everyone off.

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21 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

So, here's the story on that dude....

There's no historical or scientific evidence proving that Jews exist....WTF?  I mean, like....there's a synagogue right down the street from me.  I promise, it's not imaginary.  So....seems there's a LITTLE bit of evidence that Jews exist.

Jews have tails. You ever seen anyone with a tail?

QED

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21 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

So, here's the story on that dude....

There's no historical or scientific evidence proving that Jews exist....WTF?  I mean, like....there's a synagogue right down the street from me.  I promise, it's not imaginary.  So....seems there's a LITTLE bit of evidence that Jews exist.

I mean, this makes perfect sense to me. Of course they find the idea that Jews have never existed to be reprehensible. Because denying their existence means denying they're a part of a pedophile cabal of folks eating babies and running liberal Hollywood, and we all know that shit is true because it's the number one enemy to the by gawd United States of 'Muria.

You think anyone could have gotten away with denying Jews exist at the Nuremburg Rallies? Come on, man. 

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This is a purchase of a seat if it happens. Lauf is district-shopping...she was third in the IL-14 Republican primary (granted, 3K votes from a win). Fortunately, Lauren Underwood defended because she is awesome. Lauf is owned by Trump.

Ohio has one of these clowns in Christina Hagan. Anthony Gonzalez is their Kinzinger and Dem Tim Ryan is going for a Senate seat. Hagan lost to Gonzalez in the 18 primary and Ryan in the 20 general.

Had C-SPAN on for the general speeches tonight. Boebert is rocking McEnany’s loud-ass blazers. Ritchie Torres looks/sounds like he does BHO impressions in the mirror.

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9 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

This is a purchase of a seat if it happens. Lauf is district-shopping...she was third in the IL-14 Republican primary (granted, 3K votes from a win). Fortunately, Lauren Underwood defended because she is awesome. Lauf is owned by Trump.

Ohio has one of these clowns in Christina Hagan. Anthony Gonzalez is their Kinzinger and Dem Tim Ryan is going for a Senate seat. Hagan lost to Gonzalez in the 18 primary and Ryan in the 20 general.

Had C-SPAN on for the general speeches tonight. Boebert is rocking McEnany’s loud-ass blazers. Ritchie Torres looks/sounds like he does BHO impressions in the mirror.

Kinzinger’s district may not exist after redistricting. Or could be severely weakened. I find these grifters are announcing now to fame whore and raise money early and then they are drawn out of the district or it gets sliced and diced into nothing and they suddenly back out with the cash for their new PAC. 

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6 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

I’m sure this will be a mess.

Seems like the old school GOP folks don’t want to take a chance on crazy ass Amanda Chase winning the primary.

The MAGA/QAnon lunatics are going to show them what it feels like to have the crazy come for them.
 

Illegal drive thru voting?!?!?!?

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On 11/14/2019 at 2:21 PM, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

Alan Albright is in Waco.  Everyone knew he'd do well.  Got in on voice vote.  Counts was put up by Obama, it was returned, and Trump put him up again.  Cam Barker is a super genius, but had a very right leaning career because he worked for the Texas AG, so he's signed a lot of briefs that assert very right leaning positions.  I don't really hold that against him, even though all the D senators did.  Ada Brown got 80 votes.    Hendrix was another one nominated by Obama, returned, and Trump renominated.  Got 89 votes.

 

Whatever the process is, at least in Texas, it hasn't gone too haywire.

Cam Barker strikes down eviction moratorium.  says that it isn't interstate commerce but general police power of the state.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qt71rci75p5znj4/Texas ruling.pdf?dl=0

 

 

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/the-republican-party-is-now-in-its-end-stages/618132/

 

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We are living in a time of bad metaphors. Everything is fascism, or socialism; Hitler’s Germany, or Stalin’s Soviet Union. Republicans, especially, want their followers to believe that America is on the verge of a dramatic time, a moment of great conflict such as 1968—or perhaps, even worse, 1860. (The drama is the point, of course. No one ever says, “We’re living through 1955.”)

Ironically, the GOP is indeed replicating another political party in another time, but not as the heroes they imagine themselves to be. The Republican Party has become, in form if not in content, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of the late 1970s.

 

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I can already hear the howls about invidious comparisons. I do not mean that modern American Republicans are communists. Rather, I mean that the Republicans have entered their own kind of end-stage Bolshevism, as members of a party that is now exhausted by its failures, cynical about its own ideology, authoritarian by reflex, controlled as a personality cult by a failing old man, and looking for new adventures to rejuvenate its fortunes.

No one thinks much about the Soviet Union in the late 1970s, and no one really should. This was a time referred to by the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, as the vremia zastoia—“the era of stagnation.” By that point, the Soviet Communist Party was a spent force, and ideological conviction was mostly for chumps and fanatics. A handful of party ideologues and the senior officers of the Soviet military might still have believed in “Marxism-Leninism”—the melding of aspirational communism to one-party dictatorship—but by and large, Soviet citizens knew that the party’s formulations about the rights of all people were just window dressing for rule by a small circle of old men in the Kremlin.

 

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“The party” itself was not a party in any Western sense, but a vehicle for a cabal of elites, with a cult of personality at its center. The Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev was an utterly mediocre man, but by the late 1970s he had cemented his grip on the Communist Party by elevating opportunists and cronies around him who insisted, publicly and privately, that Brezhnev was a heroic genius. Factories and streets and even a city were named for him, and he promoted himself to the top military rank of “Marshal of the Soviet Union.” He awarded himself so many honors and medals that, in a common Soviet joke of the time, a small earthquake in Moscow was said to have been caused by Brezhnev’s medal-festooned military overcoat falling off its hanger.

The elite leaders of this supposedly classless society were corrupt plutocrats, a mafia dressed in Marxism. The party was infested by careerists, and its grip on power was defended by propagandists who used rote phrases such as “real socialism” and “Western imperialism” so often that almost anyone could write an editorial in Pravda or Red Star merely by playing a kind of Soviet version of Mad Libs. News was tightly controlled. Soviet radio, television, and newspaper figures plowed on through stories that were utterly detached from reality, regularly extolling the successes of Soviet agriculture even as the country was forced to buy food from the capitalists (including the hated Americans).

 

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Members of the Communist Party who questioned anything, or expressed any sign of unorthodoxy, could be denounced by name, or more likely, simply fired. They would not be executed—this was not Stalinism, after all—but some were left to rot in obscurity in some make-work exile job, eventually retiring as a forgotten “Comrade Pensioner.” The deal was clear: Pump the party’s nonsense and enjoy the good life, or squawk and be sent to manage a library in Kazakhstan.

This should all sound familiar.

The Republican Party has, for years, ignored the ideas and principles it once espoused, to the point where the 2020 GOP convention simply dispensed with the fiction of a platform and instead declared the party to be whatever Comrade—excuse me, President—Donald Trump said it was.

Like Brezhnev, Trump has grown in status to become a heroic figure among his supporters. If the Republicans could create the rank of “Marshal of the American Republic” and strike a medal for a “Hero of American Culture,” Trump would have them both by now.

A GOP that once prided itself on its intellectual debates is now ruled by the turgid formulations of what the Soviets would have called their “leading cadres,” including ideological watchdogs such as Tucker Carlson and Mark Levin. Like their Soviet predecessors, a host of dull and dogmatic cable outlets, screechy radio talkers, and poorly written magazines crank out the same kind of fill-in-the-blanks screeds full of delusional accusations, replacing “NATO” and “revanchism” with “antifa” and “radicalism.”

Falling in line, just as in the old Communist Party, is rewarded, and independence is punished. The anger directed at Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger makes the stilted ideological criticisms of last century’s Soviet propagandists seem almost genteel by comparison. (At least Soviet families under Brezhnev didn’t add three-page handwritten denouncements to official party reprimands.)

This comparison is more than a metaphor; it is a warning. A dying party can still be a dangerous party. The Communist leaders in those last years of political sclerosis arrayed a new generation of nuclear missiles against NATO, invaded Afghanistan, tightened the screws on Jews and other dissidents, lied about why they shot down a civilian 747 airliner, and, near the end, came close to starting World War III out of sheer paranoia.

The Republican Party is, for now, more of a danger to the United States than to the world. But like the last Soviet-era holdouts in the Kremlin, its cadres are growing more aggressive and paranoid. They blame spies and provocateurs for the Capitol riot, and they are obsessed with last summer’s protests (indeed, they are fixated on all criminals and rioters other than their own) to a point that now echoes the old Soviet lingo about “antisocial elements” and “hooligans.” They blame their failures at the ballot box not on their own shortcomings, but on fraud and sabotage as the justification for a redoubled crackdown on democracy.

Another lesson from all this history is that the Republicans have no path to reform. Like their Soviet counterparts, their party is too far gone. Gorbachev tried to reform the Soviet Communist Party, and he remains reviled among the Soviet faithful to this day. Similar efforts by the remaining handful of reasonable Republicans are unlikely to fare any better. The Republican Party, to take a phrase from the early Soviet leader Leon Trotsky, should now be deposited where it belongs: in the “dustbin of history.”

 

 

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Mitch truly has no spine.

Well, except when it's about obstructing a Democratic bill, shoving in a judge, etc.

 

 

 

Unbelievable.  I shouldn't be surprised but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't.  

Dear God, if you truly exist you'd take out every one of these motherfuckers.  

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15 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Mitch truly has no spine.

Well, except when it's about obstructing a Democratic bill, shoving in a judge, etc.

 

 

 

he's playing the odds.  staying in MAGA's good graces while Cyrus Vance makes sure that Trump can't run for shit in 2024.

the poster child for Machiavellianism.

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37 minutes ago, brakeman said:

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So.....we're done here, right?  It's official, it's sealed -- literally in gold.

The Republican "Party" no longer exists.  It's just another psychotic death cult, with a terrorist arm.  

Seriously, we need to lock this thread, and start another one with an accurate title -- "The Trumpist Death Cult" or something like that.  Because this topic is done.  When you roll out a literal golden idol, you can pronounce that moment as the official time of death of the Republican Party.

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  • Hugo Stiglitz changed the title to The GQP: Trumpist Death Cult

Oh, and the cult gets even cult-ier:

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The lineup of the Conservative Political Action Conference this week includes political heavyweights like former President Donald Trump, Cancun-loving Sen. Ted Cruz, and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. It also includes the political head of a Japanese religious cult that promotes nationalism, xenophobia and the belief that its leader is the reincarnation of an alien from Venus who created life on earth millions of years ago.

These people are too far gone.

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2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The groans at the end

No one in this “political party” gives a shit about private property rights. Maybe 50 years ago. Even then, who knows. Trump exposed the true identity of the party. Fascism. They want power. They want to do whatever the fuck they want, whenever they want. Rules for thee, not for me. The Republican Party combined is all the racism of Southern Democrats that abandoned that party after the Equal Rights acts was passed by LBJ, mixed in will all the crazy evangelicals that came over after Roe v Wade, mixed with all the “fiscal conservatives” that just want to make as much money as possible and don’t give a shit about anything else. That’s it. 

 

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1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

The best part of CPAC wheeling out a false idol in the form of a the Golden Halfwit is that they kicked off the conference yesterday with a *checks notes* “Jewish Prayer Service.” 

I have to believe that the cognitive dissonance is purposeful at this point. 

Now what does this Golden God look like?

Uh... there's a picture of it right here.

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That's it.

Good God!

Yes, that's just what the Republicans thought.

Uh, now what's that supposed to be coming out of there?

Lightning.  Fire. Mean Tweets. Power of God or something.

I'm beginning to understand CPAC's interest in this.

Oh, yes. The Evangelical Bible speaks of the Trump leveling mountains and laying waste to entire regions. An army which carries his image before it... is invincible.

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