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4 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:


This is duplicitous language. There is an argument here but the NYT does not want to make it. They need to outline what the “difficult decision” is. “Ukraine should give up more of its territory and surrender its citizens to Russian occupiers who will torture and murder them.” And what kind of “relationship” with Russia does the NYT propose? 
 

 

“Vladimir Putin was right. His poor, frozen, oppressed nation can simply wait out democracies. It’s time to admit his strategy of sparking a food and energy crisis is a good one and it’s the way for him to get what he wants, now and in the future.” 

Completely agree, this is some bullshit.  Clearly the author can't-- and won't-- provide the details of the "difficult decision" because then the moral path ahead becomes obvious, and is opposite the view being presented.  

In other words, weak ass puffery.

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9 hours ago, 686 said:


I appreciate your optimism, but wheat, barley, and rye harvest starts in July.

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Hopefully they have plenty of silo space available to store if logistics aren’t sorted. The fact that we’re already talking about sending Harpoons, etc. means we’re taking it seriously which is great. Even if the Ukrainians sink another couple surface ships, I still feel like the psychopath Russians will stage their subs to try to torpedo the freighters. They still think they will get traction blaming a famine on us somehow.

Whoever sends freighters and escorts needs to have a live video feed of the boats if possible and make a Don Corelone homage declaration that if a freighter should get shot in the head, or hang itself in its jail cell, or be struck by a bolt of lightning — then there will be blame cast upon some with boats in the Black Sea and no forgiveness. Haul the grain largely straight to Africa / Turkey and publish the whole thing and take a humanitarian victory lap. If I was the blockade running country, I would spring to have bags printed at the destination ports (like USAID does) that say something like “this grain was brought past Russian blockades by me at mortal risk to avert famine in your country. As-salamu alaykum. Go with God. May we meet one day as friends… (P.S. I would value your warm recollections of this event and forbearance regarding my future military or political maneuvers that may trespass against you, or those that have in the past. Very truly yours, etc..)”

I'm stuck in the midwest and only think about corn and beans I guess.  Still.  I'm confident.

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This is a game changer, and this stuff is hitting the mainstream, and lots of OSINT people are chipping in (and more are joining the OSINT ranks).  Not to mention the facial recognition software, social media accounts, social media accounts being datelined for facial recognition, etc.

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15 hours ago, statsman said:

There are different definitions for fascist-

 1. Nationalist, authoritarian, state directed economy. 
2. Somebody to the right of my position. 
3. Opponent of Russia. 
 
#1 is the best definition with 2 and 3 overused. 

I'll go with Umberto Eco's definition.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

aggy seems to fit this to a degree.

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39 minutes ago, Fico said:

And the M113 is from 1960. 

We only stopped buying them in 2007, and will be using them past 2030, but they are useful and we aren't rolling them in large numbers into heavy combat with a military that has a shitload of dudes toting ATGMs around.  We are replacing them, and pushing them to Ukraine is useful here and there (they aren't rolling them directly into combat either).

It's crazy - if you look at the number of tanks and AFVs/APCs that Russia rolled into Ukraine with back in February, they've suffered over 100% losses with both of those (more I think with the AFVs).  The OSINT folks tracking verified Russian vehicles destroyed or captured are saying that there was a lot of new Russian stuff taken out up through late March, and after that the equipment being destroyed started trending older and older, meaning either the newer stuff Russia had in reserve was not maintained well, or they are truly out of newer stuff.

People are joking that we are not far away from the Russians fielding T55s/54s.

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17 hours ago, 686 said:


I appreciate your optimism, but wheat, barley, and rye harvest starts in July.

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Hopefully they have plenty of silo space available to store if logistics aren’t sorted. The fact that we’re already talking about sending Harpoons, etc. means we’re taking it seriously which is great. Even if the Ukrainians sink another couple surface ships, I still feel like the psychopath Russians will stage their subs to try to torpedo the freighters. They still think they will get traction blaming a famine on us somehow.

Whoever sends freighters and escorts needs to have a live video feed of the boats if possible and make a Don Corelone homage declaration that if a freighter should get shot in the head, or hang itself in its jail cell, or be struck by a bolt of lightning — then there will be blame cast upon some with boats in the Black Sea and no forgiveness. Haul the grain largely straight to Africa / Turkey and publish the whole thing and take a humanitarian victory lap. If I was the blockade running country, I would spring to have bags printed at the destination ports (like USAID does) that say something like “this grain was brought past Russian blockades by me at mortal risk to avert famine in your country. As-salamu alaykum. Go with God. May we meet one day as friends… (P.S. I would value your warm recollections of this event and forbearance regarding my future military or political maneuvers that may trespass against you, or those that have in the past. Very truly yours, etc..)”

I heard a Ukrainian expert on NPR 3 or 4 weeks ago. they have the capacity to store almost everything they harvest and it will keep for three years. Expected them to harvest 65% of their normal yield. I don’t remember the number but it was a staggering amount of grain

 

Also I am fairly certain we know where every Russian sub is unless it is under the polar ice cap. Any non Ukrainian freighter sunk by a Russian sub will probably result in that sub being disappeared

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23 minutes ago, MadBurgerMaker said:

Last I saw they were building a cofferdam type drydock for their shitty carrier instead of raising+repairing or replacing the (formerly) floating dock. 

Carriers are not allowed in the Black Sea in any case (rather, they aren’t allowed through the Dardanelles or Bosporus). The Kuznetsov is mostly a loss simply because it’s not trying down any NATO assets to watch it. 

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