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6 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

 No, Trump isn't having any negative affect on America. Yea this is probably a minority of people but it shouldn't exist at all. Comments are scary. 

couldn't spring for the officially licensed MAGA hat.  SAD!

 

 

 

also, can you imagine this kid having a little bit of something inside him and growing up and doing something?  he's a pediatrician in 40 years or something, with this pic out there.  incredible.

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Just now, Aqua Buddha said:

That’s a really good episode.  (Series is great, too.). It lays out all of Trump’s lifetime of shitty business deals in chronological order and it’s quite breathtaking.

It was one of the reasons I thought Mueller would nail him with financial crimes.  They pretty much laid out the trail.

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25 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

 No, Trump isn't having any negative affect on America. Yea this is probably a minority of people but it shouldn't exist at all. Comments are scary. 

So apparently the guy who dressed his kids up like this - just happened to kill a Hispanic woman in a hit & run a couple of years ago.  From the twitter thread:

 

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6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

You mean you down have a random triangle jutting out of your house where the trailer hitch goes?

Well, to be honest, I am currently living in a mobile home while waiting for my long-term visa for the Czech Republic to be approved, so I kinda do...but not literally because this place doesn't have a hitch.  It's actually quite nice and sits at the top of a hill on a 12 acre lot.

However, there are plenty of trailer parks, and mobile homes held together by baling wire and duct tape in the immediate area...almost all of which have Trump signs and/or Stars and Bars hanging proudly out front. 

As a city boy, country living has definitely been an eye opening experience.

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5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Just wait until you get to the CR. 

I love the CR...I took several years of Czech at UT and so I speak it just well enough to survive.  I typically spend about a month there every year to practice and was there the first few months of this year to see if I could do it on a more long-term basis.  I really didn't want to come back, so I'm looking forward to moving there full time.

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36 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I love the CR...I took several years of Czech at UT and so I speak it just well enough to survive.  I typically spend about a month there every year to practice and was there the first few months of this year to see if I could do it on a more long-term basis.  I really didn't want to come back, so I'm looking forward to moving there full time.

I spent a summer in Prague and never even figured out the correct way to say "thank you."

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20 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Gross.

 

From wikipedia:

White is a proponent of prosperity theology[4][45] Along with other televangelists who have made millions of dollars through the prosperity gospel, she was the subject of an inconclusive 2007–2011 Senate investigation, but she refused to co-operate.

Connor Gaffey has drawn attention to a 2007 televised event at which White stated, "Anyone who tells you to deny yourself is from Satan." Gaffey contrasts that with Jesus' words in the Gospel of Matthew: "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me."[35]

White's alleged denial of the Trinity and the prosperity gospel's position that Christ died on the cross not for the forgiveness of humankind but to rescue people from financial hardship.

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2 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

just laughably stupid.

It's actually brilliant marketing to his base.  Tweet out all possible scenarios -- then you can cite to the one that happens to be right at any given moment.  Being accurate is meaningless -- satisfying the base's confirmation bias is everything.

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I've never taken the time to do it, but an interesting analysis would be to examine all of his tweets in the 24 hour period prior to one of his Trump rallies. The number of tweets, the content, etc. I'm sure the info is out there, and given Trump's strange luck, I doubt if there is any strategy involved whatsoever, but he does have the Cambridge Analytica linked Parscale working for him and that guy is a slimeball. Trump's base is fairly rabid, and they retweet everything and with exclamation points.

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3 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

That was a good article.  It stayed in its lanes, did not shy away from the tarnishing of the Trump brand, ridiculed DJ failures, celebrated his good fortune, and ultimately proved its thesis, while giving an accurate insight into what kind of business man Trump actually is....which is pretty bad, but in this case lucky due to being overridden twice by other heavier hitting business partners and once by the courts which sided with his partners. Of course, it is Forbes, which is a business publication.

For those of you that did not read the article, there is a section in it that supports the notion that Trump is an actual billionaire (almost) just based on his share of ownership in these two properties which provide his net worth with $900 million debt free.  However, these two properties have apparently appreciated considerably since the 2016 election to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, due largely to the fact that they are controlled by others and to not bear the Trump brand.

Despite all that, one could come away from the article with a positive impression of Trump as a business person , despite the fact that he fought his ultimate success in these ventures tooth and nail.  After all, he made the initial investment in the Manhattan property which he ultimately leveraged in a fire sale to his Chinese partners, and which ended up bringing him into his reluctant/forced investment into his most successful properties and he did eventually elect to participate with the with his chosen/forced business partners who ended up bringing the properties up in value.

However, things are never that simple.  When you start with 400 million (prevent value) from your dad, lose your ass in casinos (which is almost impossible to do), and participate in Russian money laundering for years if not decades, then you tend to have  farther to fall and might get lucky over and above being born into wealth.

The Dirty Money Money documentary was brought up farther down the thread.  I watched it and noted Trumps tenacity at dealing with trying to get projects off the ground back in the 1980's when he was trying to make a name for himself.  He was a grinder and not addled shell of his former self that we see today.   That is not to say that what he did back then was ethical or even legal.  Trump Tower was built on the back of shady mob concrete deals and stiffing Polish immigrants in the demolition phase of the contract and the casino deals were completed with sub contractor stiffing, bags of cash to gaming regulators, hanging out and doing business with a known drug trafficker, and skimming money for personal use.

Long before Trump was candidate for anything, his building construction behavior disqualified him for me.  I own a construction business and have had some success in it and have even been able to collect from reluctant owners.  On occasion, however I have run into guys like Trump.  You can dot every "i" cross every "t" , file your claims, secure your interest, but at the end of the day, they can fight you for a long time because of their almost unlimited resources.  For them it is a way of life and a way of doing business.  the very nature of deal is that they have leverage and use it to their utmost advantage.  To them, these are deals at the highest level.  They make decisions and spend money, but otherwise have no skills or knowledge other than having a lot of money and the ability to ride out any bad decision they make.  They have no consideration for the people that actually make the project.  The architects, engineers, craftsmen, and competent suppliers  are just a means to an end . People they will pay if everything goes right if they cater to their whims , but expendable if the unforeseen happens.

Believe it or not, most really rich people play by the rules even if those rules are heavily stacked in their favor.  But not these type of cats.  They are vile.  The worst part of it is, is that they don't even do their own dirty work.  

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1 hour ago, Jiggy-Z said:

That was a good article.  It stayed in its lanes, did not shy away from the tarnishing of the Trump brand, ridiculed DJ failures, celebrated his good fortune, and ultimately proved its thesis, while giving an accurate insight into what kind of business man Trump actually is....which is pretty bad, but in this case lucky due to being overridden twice by other heavier hitting business partners and once by the courts which sided with his partners. Of course, it is Forbes, which is a business publication.

For those of you that did not read the article, there is a section in it that supports the notion that Trump is an actual billionaire (almost) just based on his share of ownership in these two properties which provide his net worth with $900 million debt free.  However, these two properties have apparently appreciated considerably since the 2016 election to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, due largely to the fact that they are controlled by others and to not bear the Trump brand.

Despite all that, one could come away from the article with a positive impression of Trump as a business person , despite the fact that he fought his ultimate success in these ventures tooth and nail.  After all, he made the initial investment in the Manhattan property which he ultimately leveraged in a fire sale to his Chinese partners, and which ended up bringing him into his reluctant/forced investment into his most successful properties and he did eventually elect to participate with the with his chosen/forced business partners who ended up bringing the properties up in value.

However, things are never that simple.  When you start with 400 million (prevent value) from your dad, lose your ass in casinos (which is almost impossible to do), and participate in Russian money laundering for years if not decades, then you tend to have  farther to fall and might get lucky over and above being born into wealth.

The Dirty Money Money documentary was brought up farther down the thread.  I watched it and noted Trumps tenacity at dealing with trying to get projects off the ground back in the 1980's when he was trying to make a name for himself.  He was a grinder and not addled shell of his former self that we see today.   That is not to say that what he did back then was ethical or even legal.  Trump Tower was built on the back of shady mob concrete deals and stiffing Polish immigrants in the demolition phase of the contract and the casino deals were completed with sub contractor stiffing, bags of cash to gaming regulators, hanging out and doing business with a known drug trafficker, and skimming money for personal use.

Long before Trump was candidate for anything, his building construction behavior disqualified him for me.  I own a construction business and have had some success in it and have even been able to collect from reluctant owners.  On occasion, however I have run into guys like Trump.  You can dot every "i" cross every "t" , file your claims, secure your interest, but at the end of the day, they can fight you for a long time because of their almost unlimited resources.  For them it is a way of life and a way of doing business.  the very nature of deal is that they have leverage and use it to their utmost advantage.  To them, these are deals at the highest level.  They make decisions and spend money, but otherwise have no skills or knowledge other than having a lot of money and the ability to ride out any bad decision they make.  They have no consideration for the people that actually make the project.  The architects, engineers, craftsmen, and competent suppliers  are just a means to an end . People they will pay if everything goes right if they cater to their whims , but expendable if the unforeseen happens.

Believe it or not, most really rich people play by the rules even if those rules are heavily stacked in their favor.  But not these type of cats.  They are vile.  The worst part of it is, is that they don't even do their own dirty work.  

Their assumption is that his piece is debt free and knowing Trump's history with debt, that's a wild assumption.

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2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

I spent a summer in Prague and never even figured out the correct way to say "thank you."

That's probably because there are about 4 ways.

Děkuju (pronounced Djeh-ku-yu) - I thank you

Děkuji (pronounced Djeh-quee) - It is being thanked (most common in my experience)

Díky (the í is pronounced like a long E) 

Dík (pronounced like Zeke)

The last two are more informal...like "thanks" in English

 

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

It's actually brilliant marketing to his base.  Tweet out all possible scenarios -- then you can cite to the one that happens to be right at any given moment.  Being accurate is meaningless -- satisfying the base's confirmation bias is everything.

I think you're giving him way too much credit.  His formula is simple...stocks go down because of the do nothing Dems and go up because of Trump.

He only has one play in his playbook...pass along the bad bucks...take credit for the good.

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43 minutes ago, RPM said:

He raised a strenuous objection 3 days later.

Why do people say 3 days, when he was dead for 48 hours?  It's like the guys in Swingers talking?  "So tomorrow?"

"No, tomorrow then a day?"

"Yeah, two days." 

"Well, when are you calling your babies?" 

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