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1) are you trying to wedge a weird Pulp Fiction reference into this? Or are you suggesting that you can't use a car to shoot a bad guy? Regardless, that wasn't the question, was it? 2) second amendment advocates consistently say that if we take all the guns away then people will just use cars to kill large numbers of people. so is it your fear that after federal spooks come confiscate your firearms, that confused and emotionally fragile white men will then drive their cars into large crowds to kill large numbers of people instead of using the guns that the government has confiscated?
but to go back to the original question of "Has there ever been registration that wasn’t eventually followed by confiscation?"
Yes. Cars.
But if fragile young white terrorists keep this shit up, I can see the slippery slope we might go down. Fuck. The feds might have to confiscate everything - guns, knives, cars, bats, sticks, box cutters, pocket knives, all glass products, rope, tiki torches, those sharp-ass compasses you use to make circles in geometry, etc. Tyranny I tell you! FUCKING TYRANNY!
 

Yes it was a pulp fiction reference. I hope you read it in Jules voice. I’ve never heard anyone say specifically that cars would be used, but it’s happened. When people say registration is followed by confiscation, they’re talking about firearms and you know it.
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4 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

 When people say registration is followed by confiscation, they’re talking about firearms and you know it.

Not when the question is stated like this:

On 7/26/2019 at 11:28 AM, Jkwellborn said:


You serious Clark? Has there ever been registration that wasn’t eventually followed by confiscation?

We register all sorts of shit that doesn't get confiscated. Sometimes stupid, paranoid questions like "has anything ever been registered that hasn't been confiscated" that can be refuted as easily as "cars" need to be called out for being stupid and paranoid. 

Most people that advocate for common-sense gun control don't want to take your stupid fucking guns. 

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On 8/16/2019 at 7:41 PM, Neonmoon said:

Is there a thread where gun owners details all the times they have used a gun to save their family?

Is there a thread documenting the percentage of legally owned guns used in crimes versus those used by scofflaws?

 

Nope... No political capital in that discussion.

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On 8/16/2019 at 11:15 PM, irishtexan said:

Not when the question is stated like this:

We register all sorts of shit that doesn't get confiscated. Sometimes stupid, paranoid questions like "has anything ever been registered that hasn't been confiscated" that can be refuted as easily as "cars" need to be called out for being stupid and paranoid. 

Most people that advocate for common-sense gun control don't want to take your stupid fucking guns. 

“Common sense”. Lol. That is a worn out term which is code for registration and eventual confiscation. It has been put into effect in more than one state in recent decades, and has caused a wave of civil disobedience among gun owners who were affected. It even failed in Canada.

As if that is a virtue signal for the advocate crowd who won’t even use the term “gun control” anymore and have been using the “gun safety” platitudes in recent years. And yes, there are plenty of those, including politicians, who seek to remove a certain class “our stupid fucking guns”.

Maybe instead there should be red flag laws for accusers and government bureaucrats to determine who gets to own & use high speed computer devices for accessing social media and the Internet. How would that fly with the free speech crowd?

Just some observations, and not pointed at you in particular.

Law-abiding gun owners are just as upset about these massacres as everyone else and would like to see the criminals, ineligibles,  & potential perpetrators denied access to these commonly owned firearms. But do it in a rational, constitutional manner without stepping on anyone’s rights.

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3 minutes ago, futureman said:

this post is dangerously racist. 

Well if Mexico can have both, why not the US? 

 

Mexico has the the right to bear arms, (9 long guns s d one handgun per citizen limited to certain calibers, but you have to register them with the federal government) and a voter ID requirement, and yet the US can’t figure a sensible way to do both? 

 

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3 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

Well if Mexico can have both, why not the US? 

 

Mexico has the the right to bear arms, (9 long guns s d one handgun per citizen limited to certain calibers, but you have to register them with the federal government) and a voter ID requirement, and yet the US can’t figure a sensible way to do both? 

 

whatever you say, hitler.

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Well if Mexico can have both, why not the US? 
 
Mexico has the the right to bear arms, (9 long guns s d one handgun per citizen limited to certain calibers, but you have to register them with the federal government) and a voter ID requirement, and yet the US can’t figure a sensible way to do both? 
 

You also have to have all of your transfers and stuff done in Mexico City, correct?

They don’t really have the right to bear arms if it’s limited like that.
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21 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Plenty of them in gun forums and occasionally in the newspapers.

I forget the name of the study, but a recent publication indicated that American citizens use these weapons in self-defense up to two and a half million times a year; with up to 400,000 of these citizens indicating that having the means to defend themselves had saved a life.

Another -Sociologist Peter Rossi was on record as being in favor of strict national gun control. He and his colleagues, James Wright and Kathleen Daly, at the University of Massachusetts were commissioned by the Carter administration to research the issue to justify stronger gun control. However, they concluded that there is no convincing proof that gun control curbs crime or prevents criminals from acquiring firearms. They found just the reverse to be more likely, that civilian ownership of firearms deter or reduce crime.

Since then, there have been many more independent, unbiased, scientific studies. Almost invariably, they conclude:

(1) At least three times more crimes are thwarted by armed law-abiding citizens than by the police.

(2) Firearms are used by civilians to stop or deter crimes far more often than they are misused by criminals to commit crimes.

(3) In jurisdictions with fewer restrictions on law-abiding citizens, fewer crimes are attempted.

(4) Jurisdictions that enact stronger gun control laws experience an increase in violent crime.

(5) States which have enacted concealed carry permit laws have experienced a reduction in violent crimes, with few if any injuries from accidents.

(6) Where law-abiding citizens are encouraged in responsible gun ownership the result is a safer society with lower medical costs.

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A British company will sell knives with square tips after a sharp rise in knife crime

 

A cutlery company has created a range of knives with blunt tips in response to knife crime statistics in the UK.

In October 2019, it was reported that knife crime had reached a record high in England and Wales, with more than 44,000 offences involving a knife or a sharp instrument recorded by police in the 12 months leading up to June.

This marked a seven per cent increase on the previous year, with the Office for National Statistics (ONS) stating that the number of crimes involving knives was at its highest point since the 2010 to 2011 period.

In a bid to tackle knife crime, British cutlery and kitchenware firm Viners, which was founded in Sheffield in 1901, has designed a new range of knives with square ends.

The company says the range, named the "Assure collection," has been created "in response to rising knife crime statistics and new government legislation."

Due to be released later this week it has been "repeatedly tested to ensure the tip does not pierce skin intentionally or otherwise."

"With knife-related crime incidents at a record high and a reported 285 fatalities in the last 12 months alone, the UK government has taken the decision to reclassify kitchen knives as an offensive weapon with the new Offensive Weapons Act 2019, leading some retailers to remove single knives from sale in retail stores," a press release for the knife collection stated.

"The new Assure collection from Viners has been created in response to this new legislation, with the team extensively testing a new shape knife that is highly functional for the modern cook but shaped to reduce and prevent injuries, accidents and fatalities."

Single knives in the range cost either £3.99 or £5.99, while a four-piece set costs £15.99.

The knives will be available to purchase later this week from home furnishings retailer Dunelm, before being released on the Viners website from Sunday 16 February.

Viners says that the knives deliver the "same functionality as a standard knife" in the kitchen, while "helping to reduce unnecessary accidents when preparing food and washing up."

In August 2019, young people affected by knife crime delivered a letter to Boris Johnson at 10 Downing Street addressing the topic.

More than 100 people signed the 12-point manifesto, which outlined actions that they believe could be taken to reduce the prevalence of knife crime.

The young people involved with the creation of the letter collaborated with the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Knife Crime.

Read the original article on The Independent. Copyright 2020. Follow The Independent on Twitter.

 

https://www.insider.com/square-tip-knives-viners-cutlery-response-to-knife-crime-2020-1

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Have you read the thread?
I think it's pretty clear. 
If you disagree, make your case.

I think he knows it’s just the democrats that want to repo guns. Even though neon moon assured us that it would never happen or be discussed. Someone needs to tell the fools that have been running for office that though.
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12 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


I think he knows it’s just the democrats that want to repo guns. Even though neon moon assured us that it would never happen or be discussed. Someone needs to tell the fools that have been running for office that though.

He ain't goin' for that.  He was just wanting clarity on my point.

Immortal's good people and thoughtful.

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