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The thread is about Jews being massacred simply for being Jews. I am responsible for talking about immigration and the threats of letting people come into our country and into other countries who would spread their unhinged bullshit hatred. We cannot possibly know who has crossed our border on that regard. But somehow talking about the atrocities Jews face and have faced historically and the fact that Jew hatred is off the fucking charts right now really seems to piss off people I guess. So if we have to go all about “identity/race” like old Brisket here how many of his or y’all’s ancestors were thrown into a gas chamber? How many of you are Jewish? And if none of his or your relatives have experienced antisemitism then maybe you non-Jews can EABODs? Because none of you can possibly relate now or ever will as a non-Jew. And any attempt to rationalize what took place is just a sadly veiled attempt at justifying a specific sect of the world population who thrive on their hatred for Jews and others unlike themselves. That’s exactly how I took Brisket’s post that I quoted…and it is that kind of rhetoric pisses me off. Sue me. I’m out with this posts time out for me. Self imposed.
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I am truly sorry for all you and yours have gone thru. But I doubt you believe me now or ever will. Why is that? Geeeeee… in my white ass opinion you are strongly implying with your post that my “white ass” is to blame for what you have experienced and are experiencing And that I must also want an America where you and yours are persecuted in perpetuity because i have a “white ass?” All whites are the same right? Seems like something I’ve heard racists whites say? 🤔 And it is totally okay To treat me as though I’m inhuman or even subhuman because I’m white? Because you are being treated as subhuman? So ultimately It doesn’t matter at all to you what I post or feel or think bc you have already predetermined all of that bc I am white. Therefore I can’t possibly want the best for you or your loved ones? Not ever? if that’s how you feel…then you must hate every single one of us damned one of us with white asses. What your post is strongly implying that it’s ok for you to accuse me of shit that I don’t feel or think or even of future shit I will never feel or never think bc deep down you hate me anyways on the basis of my skin color. So your posts countering mine on a pretty regular basis show me that deep down you are implying further that we can never have a meaningful discussion about anything bc you don’t respect me on the basis of my race. Congrats. You managed in one unhinged post to reveal exactly who you are. A Hispanic version of Trump. Well done El Trumpo.
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Also @safe sex you seem like a cool poster from all I have seen. (And I don’t mean Rainey street and lakes i am not luring people 😂) tom Homan the same one everyone hates now rose to power under Obama and was responsible for overseeing the deportation of something like over 400,000 people in a single year 2013. He was like the executive director of ICE under Obama. These mass deportations were largely done without a shred of due process. For those requesting asylum from certain Central American countries their process was sped up under something like Rocket Dockets. In short though, Tom Homan was the chief dude under Obama and crafted much of what was done under his administration via deportation. This is according to data from the Migration Policy Institute. In short I think it’s something like 75% of those deported under Obama that never saw due process. They didn’t want High profile raids like Trump they opted for silent raids. They perused the employer’s I-9 records for those who were illegal. And they were then fired. And then LATER rounded up but the Obama administration also went after the employers too—aiming to prosecute them. While they weren’t aiming for high profile raids they certainly did do some of those but also went to the homes and communities and also did things during traffic stops. Obama was known as the deporter in chief for a reason. 75% of his deportees didn’t receive due process and were rounded up. Same as here only Trump WANTS this to be high profile and NOT silent like Obama. Which is a reason imo that ICE agents are now at risk. He could have opted for more silent raids but doesn’t want that. Clearly. But make no mistake Obama had them rounded up at traffic stops, sometimes at work sites but mostly at their homes or in their communities. These aren’t people who were expelled at the border, these were people who were living and working here who received zero due process, and Trump just put that entire process on steroids is all. And he likely still won’t have deported as many as Obama did. the GAO government accountability office maintained that something like 82 American Citizens had been held in detainment centers between 2006-2008. And in his second term overlapping with Trump’s there was something like 170 plus Americans who wrongly detained, arrested or deported under Obama basically. I think something like 70 were actually deported but you’d have to search out the GAO actually numbers.
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Yes both sides. and Yes Congress (MAGA) denied Biden the bill he wanted to sign. And yes under Trump’s orders. biden then pivoted with several hundred migration based executive orders to try and control the flow which again exploded under his watch particularly between 2022-2023. The Biden administration did manage to get much of what was a paper driven process and move it into the 21st century as well which all subsequent administrations should thank Biden’s people for that. there is more here below at this link about the successes and the failures of the Biden administration in that regard and I suck at paraphrasing and it’s a good read: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-immigration-legacy It’s the Gestapo now but it never has been before? What about the mass deportations under Obama? You do realize that EXPEDITED DEPORTATIONS were used BROADLY AND REGULARLY under Obama? You do realize that Obama administration expanded the use of expedited removal which allowed Department of Homeland Security officers to DEPORT individuals WITHOUT a hearing before an immigration judge. Even though this was originally intended for those apprehended at the border but was used far more broadly and is the basis I suppose for what is happening now under the current administration. but did any of you protest when this expedited removal was happening under Obama? So why is it the Gestapo now but it wasn’t under his watch? This issue is among many why I will never ever be a registered member of either party. Neither side will look inward and just blames the other side. It’s why legit not a damn reasonable thing here ever gets accomplished to truly make our country great.
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I think an encounter at the northern border qualifies also. And do you think the only people crossing over here without going thru the proper channels are Hispanic? That they don’t go to South and come north? Or don’t come in from the north? Or is the north impenetrable? You don’t think ISIS has come across any border into the USA? Or other races? Are there incredibly racist people who just don’t like Hispanics and citizens south of our border? Yes. Fuck those people. Do the vast majority of Americans feel this way? I don’t think so at all. Jmo.
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As far as running for office, while I don’t agree with all your takes, I think you should. You’d have most of our votes. We actually know that you give a fuck. As far as honest policy discussions or negotiations I think it’s fair to say both sides have fucked this issue in the ass royally and that both sides need this issue. As a rallying point. Don’t believe me see the third paragraph: did any of you protest mass deportations under any administration with a Democrat in office? Because, if not, most people’s outrage today holds zero weight with me right now. Where does the Cheeto rank in terms of mass deportations over the Presidents of the last 25 years? 35? Would he be this hard ass right now if the border situation over the last four years had not imploded? We all know he’s a hard ass but would he be this demonstrative about making sure there is zero entry? And scaring off anyone from even trying? Where were the same or similar protestors under other administrations? Or is it a rule that it’s only one sides fault and you just get outraged when that side is in power? Since I was a kid (yes no shit) I have wanted us to invest south of the border and bring business and commerce there. I have always wanted a reasonable path to citizenship for people but one that makes sense. I have also always wanted to have a secure border. I want people to have to apply for citizenship while they have been granted resident status in this country. And I do think being granted resident status ought to come with conditions as well. I don’t think it’s cool people overstay their visas for a decade. I don’t think people should be allowed to cross over to this country by any means without going thru proper channels. I don’t believe any of what I wrote about makes me a xenophobic racist asshole. I think this should always apply to ALL citizens of other countries no matter the race nor country of origin of the person. I think every single country on this planet has 💯 right to protect and secure their borders and to deny visas or allow visas or to allow or to deny citizenship to whomever they want (don’t want.) Which means based on my being a phantom SK means i probably ain’t going to be getting many visas accepted in my lifetime. I don’t see the problem at all in what I just wrote period. I think corporations bear tremendous responsibility for this. I don’t agree with how the current administration is handling this issue AT ALL NOR do I think the previous administration did our country any favors and actually made the situation worse. IMO the previous administration poured gasoline on an already large fire.
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Quoting to say there are many good ideas and some when combined may be the right solution to a particular problem. Quoting to say also that there a lot of bad ideas and wrong solutions that FEEL good to say them or to employ them but can and have led to even bigger problems. And some big problems not a soul is willing to compromise on. what we have here is a lot of wannabe political candidates who don’t have the stones to run for any office of any kind. And I am speaking for myself also. And while Fit Lump or whatever the shit her knockers are called at least she had the STONES to run for something and won at one point. At least she had the stones. We have a lot of lawyers where when arguing before a Judge there is case precedent and a right way to rule and a wrong way for the Judge to rule based on the law. But these same posters apply this black and white nonsense and it effects every take on this board and they use these takes to bludgeon anyone who disagrees with them about any issue period, Teachers and coaches should not do this to young people in their charge. Parents should not if their son or daughter comes home from school say “oh that’s your take on this issue go to your room you Commie/Libtard/Maga asshole…the sky is blue and not indigo bc I say it is!” we have too many people coasting on whatever shit they whiffed off MSNOW or CNN or Fox News hot take of the hour and have decided that’s enough to bludgeon people with. Most of us ain’t bad mother fuckers, we just want to discuss an issue in a way that might yield real ideas. Automatically putting someone into a fucking box bc they heard or read something and want to discuss it is shit. Just a few months ago many on this platform said civility is dead and we cannot afford to be civil and we must rise up—so if you NOW want to discuss an issue and find solutions and to compromise it’s bc you no longer have the upper hand. No other reason. If you had the upper hand now you wouldn’t want to be open to any new ideas. Some of you went from burn it all down to now wanting to talk about immigration and so forth. Why? and as far as the current administration: has anyone gone to the Orange Cheeto’s office and proposed a solution? Any ideas or is the strategy just to be anti-Cheeto everything and just playing the banjo outside ICE and harassing agents and their families and hoping that might work? Protests can be effective but in the absence of real solutions or proposals they just seem like a bunch of people pissed they aren’t in power. I don’t see many in opposition to the current status quo offering solutions at all, just resistance to what has been offered. That’s my take as a PROUD INDEPENDENT and people have the right to hate me for it. I ain’t maga and I ain’t a socialist and I’m somewhere in the fucking middle on many many issues. But I can be swayed and I admit i can be wrong. I can also be right. same as the rest of you jackholes. But if anyone wants to provide PROOF or documentation that PROVES that immigration did NOT dramatically rise under the previous administration from a credible accepted source have at it. As I said I’m all eyes and all ears.
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Some of you that routinely scold or label or browbeat posters have forgotten something: it has become quite obvious to most of us on the receiving end of your nonsense that none of you assholes can solve any real issues. yet some of you wield your posts on this board SOLELY to scold or label or browbeat others because some of you truly believe that you stand on some kind of higher moral or ethical ground or intelligence level. Little secret: YOU DON’T. You don’t have ownership of the right take on every opinion or idea or political position, not a single one of us does. Period. At most, what some of you self proclaimed experts do is to post knee jerk responses to a post like you have an automatic need to put the poster in a some kind of vile or terrible box. They disagree and don’t endorse your own bullshit so they must be called out and humiliated and scolded. Right? For those of you who do this: that’s a YOU problem. Those of you who do this bullshit aren’t qualified to judge a hot dog eating contest much less to claim to know what is in the hearts and minds of any other poster with whom you happen to disagree. Every goddamn time I post anywhere on this god forsaken site I get quoted by at least 4-8 of you fucks either lecturing me or pointing out how stupid I am or putting me or others into some kind of box. No matter whether you are wrong or right about a poster—doesn’t matter. It’s ok to humiliate them or put them into some type of horrible box. Bc you need them to be in it. for me, this shit stops now. I’m just going to call it out. I’m beyond sick of the bullshit thought police on this board. People who don’t wear a badge but immediately drown out all discussion of every issue. Endorse what I say or you will get accused of being something you’re not. We have had quite enough of this nonsense. Quite enough. I’d tell you to kiss my ass but some of you self proclaimed thought police have your heads shoved so far up your asses that all you see is brown. So Any response to my post will just be dripping with your own self deluded bullshit anyway. so fire away assholes. 🖕🏼
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Yeah I snuck a ton of members from my international serial killer chat group in. They are harmless. They just want to study serial killers in the home states they came from. Nothing to worry about. All kidding aside, our country over the last couple of years has allowed the floodgates to be open. Too late to pretend we didn’t let in people capable of carrying out a terrorist attack either. And I’m well aware we have enough homegrown assholes of our own to deal with already. Damn.
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“Though the fictionalized Being Charlie is “not my life,” as Nick Reiner told People, the family confirmed at the time of its release that it closely mirrored their real-life dynamics. “I’d rather have you alive and hating me than dead on the streets,” the film’s Rob Reiner figure, David, says in a climactic confrontation with his son, Charlie. “So what do you want me to do?” “You don’t have to do anything,” Charlie replies. Then he suggests that mental illness is the real problem, not drugs. “It was never about the drugs. All I ever wanted was a way to kill the noise. But the more I used the louder it got.” Nick Reiner told AOL in 2016 that he “didn’t bond a lot” with his father when he was growing up. But Rob Reiner said at the time that “our relationship had gotten so much closer” while making the film. “I said it to his face. I'll say it on the air: He was the heart and soul of the film and any time I would get an opportunity to work with him I would do it,” Rob told NPR. “He's brilliant and talented and he's going to figure out his path.” 😢😢😢💔💔💔
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Huge deal for my mom’s age group as watching the soaps was a 5 day a week routine. Wasn’t that Christopher Cross (not written for the couple) used for Luke and Laura? This wasn’t just a coupling of two characters on a show it was THE couple. How sad. 😢 I was never into their love story, bc of problematic storylines like rape which I still cannot believe they did even back then. RIP. 🌹 https://people.com/anthony-geary-dead-general-hospital-luke-8609934 The actor died on Sunday, Dec. 14 following complications from an operation three days prior, TV Insider reported. “It was a shock for me and our families and our friends," Geary’s husband, Claudio Gama, told the outlet in a statement. "For more than 30 years, Tony has been my friend, my companion, my husband.”
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The thing is the mass murder/shooting in Australia happened—we have all seen the clips and the heroic actions of Ahmed. And yet people will deny it happened. That I will never understand. It happened. Admitting the holocaust or the horrible events of October 7th is something they cannot do, admitting further that those atrocities were wrong is something they cannot do. Because I guess it invalidates their own hatred? Own victimhood? It’s bizarre to me that we still have people to this day all over the world that are denying October 7th or the Holocaust even happened. And I suppose they will deny the events of Sunday too. Damn. 😢
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I will always love that it was Rob’s romance with Michele (RIP to both 🌹) that inspired him to change the ending of When Harry Met Sally so the two characters would get together in the end. I cannot find any humor in any of this and I know it’s surly but damn. And if it’s true that their own son whom they helped in every way for years murdered them both with a knife… 😔 damnit.
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Heard same rumors and hope it’s not true about the son. What a terrible day. My initial thought was bc it’s the first day of Hanukah that it was an unknown bad actor but now am seeing way too many rumors about the son. So tragic. Feel terribly for their family. Rob’s incredible body of work gave a lot of joy to so many. Solid work. RIP to him and his lovely wife. Fuck.
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