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Thanks for finally giving a real answer. Look dude, I don't give a shit how some player posture in front of the microphone because its all fake, right? Major Applewhite was a grade A asshole on the team, but was "awe shucks" at the podium. Sanders is a cocky bastard, but the media largely is pouring gasoline on it for views and clicks. Asking him all kinds of out of pocket questions to try and drive a wedge between him and his coach. If you watch the interviews he has been handling it pretty well. He is not Pavia. Here is my position on Quarterbacks, and this applies to Sanders, Arch, or Quinn. If you are capable of throwing a ball on time and accurately there is a system that you can perform in at a high level. Tom Brady didn't have the strongest arm and couldn't get out of the way of a toddler so they prioritized his o-line, and developed a spread type offense to fit his skillset. Had the coach decided to spend all his money on skill players and not line, Brady doesn't end up the goat. Sometimes a coach has to get his ego out of the way and serve the player. Sark is an ego guy who was forced to finally make a change to his offense because Arch couldn't play in it. He put put Arch in something that better fit his skillset and now he looks light years better. What you are seeing in Cleveland right now is a coach who isn't trying to work with his player. Constantly putting him in terrible situations. They even gave him the wrong wristband in the Chicago game. I'm not the kind of guy who makes claims without receipts. So let's take a look at the Bears game and you tell me if this is a good environment for a rookie QB. 1st series the Bears punt and down it on the two yard line. Browns come out and run for 2 yards just to get some space. nfl-video com2840.mp4 2nd down and Browns send the wrong personnel out there and get a flaf for 12 men. Now the little bit of room they got they give right back with a penalty. nfl-video com2840_1.mp4 Obviously they aren't going to throw it so they run off tackle on 3rd down. nfl-video com2840_2.mp4 2nd series and the Browns are already down 0-7. They send in the play and its clear something isn't right. We would later find out that Sanders has the wrong playsheet on his wristband. Sanders has to run to the sideline to get the play. By the time they get the play off it's a delay of game. nfl-video com2840_3.mp4 Now its 1st and 15 and we can already see where this is going. They fake the stretch play and boot out the bck to a levels concept and everyone is covered. Sanders wisely throws it away. nfl-video com2840_4.mp4 2nd and 15 and as you can imagine the Browns are thinking the Bears are pinning their ears back. They call a play to get the ball out quick and Sanders hits his TE over the middle for 5. nfl-video com2840_5.mp4 Now its 3rd and 10. Watch the offensive line. They slide protection the wrong way. All 5 offensive linemen end up blocking only two men while the back has two free rushers off the edge. Luckily Sanders is able to escape and run for it. While the video say he picked up the 1st, he ended up a yard short when they took a look at it. Coach doesn't go for it and they punt. nfl-video com2840_6.mp4 Now they are down 14 points and you are putting your rookie QB in a bad spot where if you don't do something soon he is going to have to throw into the teeth of the number 1 defense in the NFL when it comes to takeaways. We try to get cute and run a slow ass jet sweep, or should I say prop engine sweep with your TE who get absolutely popped on a two yard gain. nfl-video com2840_7.mp4 So it's 2nd and 8. Sanders drops back to throw and the guard-center-guard combo let a man come completely free up the B- gap while they are fucking around trying to pass a two man twist that they still fuck up. Sack. nfl-video com2840_8.mp4 Now it's 3rd and 16. Sanders drops back and gets the ball out quick to his TE underneath. Punt. nfl-video com2840_9.mp4 As a coach you cannot put your rookie QB in this situation. Not only are we not protecting him, but all the avoidable mistakes that caused us to throwaway series and put the kid in a situation where NOW he has to try and throw them out of the hole they put themselves in. This isn't me making excuses. This is incompetence on full display that you wouldn't know about unless you were watching. On the last 20 seconds of the last video, listen to the sideline reporter talking about how they had to change the wristband. This is the kind of shit this kid is going through. An absolute clownshow! Sure, he could've not tried to press at the end of the game and turn the ball over, but he is a young guy down a bazillion points by the time the game gets going.
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All of here could've told KC that Worthy wasn't a first rounder. NFL always enamored with measurables.
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And that's the thing. Imagine condemning someone for struggling in Cleveland. Lol
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Lol. Where did Shedeur blame his O-line? Over the course of Ohio State, San Jose, Utep, and Florida, Arch Manning was 55%. Somehow you felt like he would pull out of it. Why is that? And why wouldn't you extend that same faith to the guy who has the record for most accurate passer in college football history? I know the answer to these I just wanna hear you say them.
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And this post right here is why you have a 1-1 post to rep ratio. You are in the Arch thread pointing out every negative around Arch that is the reason for his struggles, and you are correct on some of them. Then you come here and fail to see that Shedeur is in the exact same situations, and fail to give him the same rope you gave Arch. Cleveland has one of the worst offensive lines in the league. They've given up 40 sacks, which is a lot for a team that drops back as little as they do. Outside of Sanders scrambles, they've run the ball for 26, 32, 93, and 51. It's literally the exact same situation that you were banging the drum for Arch but because it's Sanders, you cannot see the forest for the trees. O-line can't hold up, where is the quick game? The Bears spent the whole day mugging the LOS, where is the screen game? Couple that with the fact that it's pretty clear his coach doesn't like him and doesn't want him to succeed. It starts with zero reps with the 1's until they toss him in the game a few weeks ago. Leaking out to the media that he wants out. Somehow Sanders was playing with the wrong wristband most of the first half. Despite that the kid is making throws that are more accurate than any of the other quarterbacks that came out of the draft last year. His issue is trying to play hero ball, which is what he had to do at Colorado. If he would trust the process and just throw the ball away he would already be a solid NFL QB. This was one of his interceptions. A ball put perfectly in the only spot it could be put for his WR to make a play and Juedy had it taken away from him.
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Yeah but scary with no depth at the position. This one might come back to bite us.
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Yeah, both are jackasses but Manzel wins the comparison with Hookers and Blow. He was, and still is, a real shitheel.
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We lost our aggression. Sets aren't perfect but we aren't even taking swings.
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Wisky doesn't think she can pass then transition. So far they are correct. If she can clean that up we can sneak out of here.
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If we can jump on them quick out the gate in the 4th that puts all the pressure on them.
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Yeah rollshots have no business hitting the floor.
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Finally fighting back. Game comes down to Stafford picking it up in passing. It all starts there.
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JE running a 6-2?
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Yeah, they are doing that for sure. Seen that strategy on my kid. Gotta fight through that.
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Serving Stafford off the court.
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