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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
You thinking this is a weak argument is on you. 2009 we are playing OU and our offense is a shitshow. We had 2 fumbles and an interception yet Muschamp still held OU to 13 points bro so what you said with "Given the offensive production and penchant for turnover putting the defense in bad spots, they did not have the luxury of picking moments to be great" is invalid. Nebraska was the same. 3 turnovers and still held them to 100 yards and 12 points. In fact the only reason they got those 12 points is because Colt turned it over already in FG range for two of them. Good defenses clamp down on teams as the game goes on and give their offense a chance to right the ship. PK's defense often did the opposite. That's why Sark ran him off. The fact that you don't understand that is a shortcoming that you need to look in the mirror about, because that is a very simple and logical fact of football. And it wasn't just "being reliant on secondary coaches", it was also not being able to stop Skattebo from running for 200 yards. It was letting Stockton run all over us and score 19 second half points, while only throwing for 79 yards. Georgia turned the ball over 3 times the first time we played them but somehow their defense still held strong, but our defense gave up 30.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
It's not about being statistically good it's when you are good. The 09 defense was great when it needed to be. 3 interception 9 sack game for Colt where he turned it over repeatedly backed up against the end zone and Muschamp didn't allow a 1st down. Struggling moving the ball on OU, Muschamp held them to 13 points. Colt also had 12 interception in 09 and regardless the D held up. This is the exact reason why PK got dropped in favor of Muschamp. When we played Georgia, they were also turning the ball over and struggling but their defense held serve and that's why we lost. Again, that held true this yeard AND last year. PK's D while good, wasn't that great when it had to be. Gave up the drive to Gabriel and OU. Let Penix throw for 430. Gave up drives late to Georgia twice last year, and gave up 30 this year.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
And you hit the nail on the head without realizing it. 08 Tech is how Quinn's career went in big games. Colt did what he needed to do to win against Tech but shit happened out of his control that lost that game. Gideon drops the interception. We let Crabtree score. 2023 We lose 2 games. OU Quinn drives us down for the go ahead score and we should've walked away with a win with only a minute left right? Had that been 09 Texas, Muschamp's defense holds and we all say man that was a clutch drive by Quinn. Washington, everyone here knows how an end zone fade is supposed to be thrown. High and away. Especially when there is a size difference. Game on the line and the receiver didn't even leave is feet or put his body between the ball, and you are seeing those same "lack of effort" claims in the pros, so miss me with the NFL receiver shit. If that's Collin Johnson or Humphrey does anyone think that ball isn't caught? The Ohio State game we all blame Quinn for that lost right? It's 14-21 and Quinn drives us all the way down to the 1 fucking yard line. We bring in an inexperienced back and he runs right into the pile instead of taking on the LB 1v1 in the hole. So we rightly bring Wisner back in and then try to toss sweep against Ohio fucking State and lose yardage all the way back to the 9 yard line. We have Cole Hutson at right guard and he gets beat immediately when Sawyer shoots the A gap and Quinn has to throw it away. Then on 4th and goal where we absolutely have to buy enough time to throw it into the end zone we let Jack Sawlyer, Ohio State's best DE, come of the edge completely untouched. I'm not sure what you expected Ewers to do there or what you thought Colt would've done differently. No one is saying Colt wasn't better than Ewers. What I am saying is y'alls rules are different for who's fault it is based on your "feelings" for said player. You even forget how the games went. Quinn fought back in all those games but defense couldn't get the ball back or we didn't take advantage of opportunities that we did have. And that's the thing. No one is saying Colt wasn't great. What I AM saying is Colt needed help just like every other QB. If that is not true 2007 Colt doesn't happen. When Colt was struggling in 09 Muschamp was there to pick him up. We weren't getting 10 penalties a game or giving up game winning drive's to other teams in crunchtime. Colt's lines weren't great but they weren't completely whiffing on blocks in game deciding moments either. Muschamp's defenses bowed up at the end of games and allowed those games to stay close for us to win.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
And that would be untrue. Just off the top of my head, Redshirt sophomore year. 21-28 OU with 9.5 left in the 4th. Colt had two possessions to tie the game up and couldn't get it done. 9-17 Nebraska. 12:56 in the 4th quarter and Colt is struggling 11-27 169 and an INT. From that point on we would throw one more pass. Luckily we had Charles, who would rush for 216 yards in the quarter and single handily win the game for us. Colt had zero TDs passing or running and was 43% passing. 21-41 Kansas St. The blowout wasn't a failure on defense as KSU only had 272 total yards and 2 TDs on Offense. No, Colt threw 4 interceptions in that game including a pick 6. Special teams was a shitshow too. 2009 Nebraska. NU had 4 field goals, 3 of which were directly due to Colt's 3 interceptions. 2 of which they didn't even get a 1st down. Nebraska then kicks the ball out of bounds on the kickoff and then a horse collar call on the short crossing route. Those two things put us in field goal range. Then Colt almost lost the game with the throw out of bounds. I mean, I could go on but my point is he had a lot of help. Some games he played down right awful but we still won whether it was special teams, Charles, or defense. But it's funny when we look back at 2023 OU, Quinn drove us down and we scored what should've been the game winner with only a minute left and PK's D let OU drive the field and score. Then we let Penix throw for 430 yards in the Semis. We don't look at those games as "the defense failed us", no we look at those games as "Quinn couldn't get it done". In my personal opinion when we were in a dogfight during Colt's last two years Muschamp's D would usually bow up and give us a chance. Meanwhile PK's D let Gabriel march the field in a minute. Let Penix throw for 430. Let Georgia score 30. Let a freshman QB for Georgia score 19 in the second half while only throwing for 70 yards. Let Ohio State get a 80 screen pass with like 30 seconds to go before half. If they woulda stood tall Like Muschamp's D, we woulda won some of those games. They even gave Squints a legit chance to beat Bama.
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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
Brothers. Are we seriously trying to argue about the SEC's DL, OL, and LB play? This is getting silly. Miss St has perennially been one of the shittiest programs in the SEC, but if we played them in 09 Fletcher Cox would be on their D-line. All American, 15th pick overall, and 6 time probowler Fletcher fucking Cox. You know, another Marcel Darius. They also had Jamar Chaney LB, Chris White LB, Pernell McFee DL, and KJ Wright LB, on that defense too. All drafted. And they were 5-7, and 3-5 in conference. I'm not exactly sure why there is an argument. The SEC is across all the slave states and therefore has NFL talent at its doorstep. Back in the 80's a lot of that talent was going to HBCU's but once that stopped they became the main supplier of big, fast black dudes. The big12 had a few teams that could compete like us, OU, Nebraska, and aggy, but by and large, as a conference, we just didn't have the trench play. We def had the skill players though. My point is even the terrible SEC teams(cept Vandy) had dudes in the trenches and Colt wasn't leading the team in rushing as a QB at his size without getting hurt.
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- Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
Yeah, to hold a team to 100 yards of total offense while your own team"s offense isn't contributing to that by being able to even remotely hold the ball for any significant time is one of the more amazing defensive feats I've ever seen. They had 5 fucking first downs. 5!!!- Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
This was my original statement "Colt is better than Ewers but come on. Colt did that(lead the team in rushing) against a Big12 schedule my guy. Colt isn't leading the team in rushing vs an SEC schedule and coming out healthy. I'm not saying the SEC is all that, but they ARE more physical in the trenches." To which Jkwellborn said this- "Man, when Colt was doing that, the Big 12 was the premier conference in the country. Just because the SEC was still playing football from 1950 doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have done similar." To which I said- "Yes. The SEC was not progressive offensively in 2009 but the trench play was still miles above the Big12. We learned that in the 1st quarter of the National Championship game. The SEC had 144 players drafted from 2010-2012. The Big12 had 85 over the same time frame, with most of those being skill players. Look into it." We were talking about whether or not Colt could lead the team in rushing against an SEC schedule. We weren't talking about a single game. So I am not sure why you chose to comment the way you did.- Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
That's not what I meant. I am asking what games where Colt threw a TD to win it or drove us down to win the game and close a team out gave you that confidence. I can remember one. 08 Ohio State. I cannot remember another.- Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
You mean you didn't even go back and see what we were talking about? You just guessed? Come on bro.- Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
What are you even talking about Ztejas? That made zero sense. - Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins
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