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On 4/7/2023 at 8:13 AM, Al_4_ISU said:
I think in an era of forced consolidation, the SEC makes way more sense for Texas and OU than the Pac 16 would have. The Pac 16 would have far worse geography, and only dangle a couple of blue bloods to beef up the home slate. Add in the cultural mismatch, and over half the schools simply not giving a fuck, and IMO that league would not have worked long term.
Yeah I think even if Oklahoma & Texas along with 4 best buds had left for PAC in 2010, Sooners & Longhorns would still be in SEC by 2025.??
The same outcome at that point would lay in path of USC & UCLA to B1G, I surmise all 4 would see the higher $ of "super 2 recently & bolt...
On a side note I do think that there is a chance by 2030 where SEC/ B1G absorb top brands of ACC/ PAC while XII absorbs top brands left...
SEC in four pods of 6 members each:
pod #1 Alabama/ Auburn/ Florida/ Florida State/ Georgia/ South Carolina
pod #2 Kentucky/ Virginia/ North Carolina/ NC State/ Tennessee/ Vanderbilt
pod #3 Ole Miss/ Mississippi State/ LSU/ Arkansas/ Missouri/ Kansas
pod #4 Texas/ Texas A&M/ Oklahoma/ Colorado/ Arizona/ Arizona State
B1G in four pods of 6 members each:
pod #1 Penn State/ Rutgers/ Maryland/ Duke/ Georgia Tech/ Miami
pod #2 Michigan/ Michigan State/ Ohio State/ Notre Dame/ Purdue/ Indiana
pod #3 Illinois/ Northwestern/ Wisconsin/ Minnesota/ Iowa/ Nebraska
pod #4 Utah/ California/ USC/ UCLA/ Oregon/ Washington
XXIV in four pods of 6 members each:
pod #1 Boston College/ Syracuse/ Pittsburgh/ West Virgina/ Cincinatti/ Virginia Tech/ Wake Forest
pod #2 Clemson / UCF/ Memphis/ Louisville/ Iowa State
pod #3 Kansas State/ Oklahoma State/ Baylor/ TCU/ Houston / Texas Tech
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On 3/11/2023 at 9:52 AM, Jabberwocky said:
Some sort of Utah Sports coverage site:
Welp sounds like there are others that think in the future (maybe 2030's) B1G &/ or SEC may look at brands like Utah[& maybe / Arizona/ Arizona State/ Colorado]:
Oddly enough, in last 5 years Utes & Sun Devils have better football stadium attendance than does Virginia/ North Carolina/ Georgia Tech who SEC/ B1G may eye...
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On 3/11/2023 at 8:30 PM, FartingDreamer said:
Didn't realize that Okies would be so fucking hostile because I'm from Texas... https://www.dirtburglars.com/forum/sports-forums/athletics/football/1184185-byu-fan-and-alum-here-i-come-in-peace
Anyways, I'm planning to attend the BYU @ Texas game on 10/28 and was hoping to attend a Surly tailgate so i could break bread and share a beer with some of y'all surly posters down in Austin before the game.
Meh, I'll wait until Oklahoma is playing in a real conference next season to rep & tailgate new spots, besides the Utes are better anywho...
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7 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:
Real stuff has happened and more real stuff is about to happen. All of this crap reads like the realignment fan fiction from 3 or 4 years ago.
Well, it's fan fiction based on what I would like to happen the probability is minimal, but "possible" anything can change in 12 years time...
Just same as the #PXC I used to post on & on about, only thing is OU/ UT went 1 way, USC/ UCLA another, but movement was possible...
An athletic director years ago joked there will be 2 superconferences 1 called ESPN the other called FOX, can 24 or 32 happen..? maybe...
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Two random tweets from folks that (may) have a finger on the pulse of ongoing in PAC & ACC respectively:
A mock-up of prospective 24-team SEC with four permanent rivals for all teams vs other 20 foes in 4 years:
SEC West: 4 permanent rivals & compete vs 5 SEC foes per season/ 3 out-of-conference games: 12 total...
Arizona- Arizona State/ Kansas/ LSU/ Mississippi State
Arizona State- Arizona/ Colorado/ Texas A&M/ Ole Miss
Colorado- Arizona State/ Oklahoma/ Texas/ Missouri
Kansas- Missouri/ Oklahoma/ Arizona/ Mississippi State
Missouri- Kansas/ Colorado/ Arkansas/ Mississippi State
Oklahoma- Colorado/ Kansas/ Missouri/ Texas
Arkansas- Texas/ Texas A&M/ LSU/ Ole Miss
Texas- Colorado/ Oklahoma/ Texas A&M/ Arkansas
Texas A&M- Texas/ LSU/ Arkansas/ Arizona State
LSU- Texas A&M/ Arkansas/ Ole Miss/ Arizona
Ole Miss- Mississippi State/ LSU/ Arkansas/ Arizona State
Mississippi State- Ole Miss/ Missouri/ Kansas/ Arizona
SEC East: 4 permanent rivals & compete vs 5 SEC foes per season/ 3 out-of-conference games: 12 total...
Alabama- Auburn/ Tennessee/ Florida/ Vanderbilt
Auburn- Alabama/ Georgia/ South Carolina/ NC State
Florida- Florida State/ Georgia/ Tennessee/ Alabama
Florida State- Florida/ North Carolina/ Virginia/ Vanderbilt
Georgia- Florida/ Auburn/ South Carolina/ NC State
South Carolina- North Carolina/ Georgia/ Auburn/ Kentucky
Tennessee- Vanderbilt/ Alabama/ Kentucky/ Florida
Vanderbilt- Tennessee/ Kentucky/ Alabama/ Florida State
Kentucky- Tennessee/ Vanderbilt/ Virginia/ South Carolina
Virginia- North Carolina/ Kentucky/ NC State/ Florida State
North Carolina- NC State/ Virginia/ Florida State/ South Carolina
NC State- North Carolina/ Virginia/ Georgia/ Auburn
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On 10/18/2022 at 9:44 PM, MAUFRAIS said:
I’m never watching the simpsons again!
Welp, don’t punish Disney/ ESPN (as the Mouse owns Simpson’s house now)…
As far as expansion for B1G/ SEC I could see both going to 24 & a 3rd league…
Current/ future B1G 16+
Washington-Oregon-Stanford & Notre Dame-Va Tech-Duke-Ga Tech-Miami
Current/ future SEC 16+
Virginia-N Carolina-NC State-Florida St-Kansas-Colorado-Arizona-Arizona St
Some amalgamation of PAC/ XII/ ACC/ AAC will remain at about half of the P2…
Playoffs eventually expand to 32 & maybe NCAA hoops tourney is folded in eh..?
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2 hours ago, DFW Horn said:
What I would (now) like to eventually see is an SEC expanded to compete with B1G… It seems that B1G may look to add #17 Notre Dame, then #18 Stanford/ #19 Oregon/ #20 Washington & swing for a fractured ACC taking (I guess) #21 Virginia/ #22 Duke/ #23 Georgia Tech/ #24 Miami…
That makes B1G a national conference while SEC is “regional”… It would be a good idea if SEC countered with: #17 Virginia Tech/ #18 North Carolina/ #19 NC State/ #20 Clemson/ #21 Florida State… Then expand the footprint with 3 solid brands: #22 Kansas/ #23 Colorado/ #24 Arizona State…
This gives content in 3 time zones of east/ central/ mountain & covers a swath from DC/ Atlanta/ Orlando/ Nashville/ St Louis/ Kansas City/ Oklahoma City/ Dallas/ Austin/ San Antonio/ Houston/ Denver/ Phoenix…
It also keeps both OU & UT with a “toe hold” in the market of California by proxy of PHX & DEN markets… and allows a few old “filler games” but with quality brand names…
Here is a prospective Saturday lineup in a 24 team SEC (with 3 MTZ schools):
Auburn vs North Carolina 11:00am ESPN
Oklahoma vs Georgia 2:30pm ABC
Colorado vs LSU 3:30pm SECN
Texas vs Florida 6:00pm ABC
Florida State vs Alabama 6:00pm ESPN
Clemson vs Texas A&M 6:00pm ESPN2
Kentucky vs South Carolina 6:00pm SECN
Tennessee vs Arkansas 9:00pm ESPN
NC State vs Kansas 9:00pm SECN
Ole Miss vs Arizona State 10:00pm ESPN2
bye week for 4 SEC brands, but 10 games in ETZ/ CTZ/ MTZ with a late game…
#SECAfterDark could be solid recruiter for capturing west coast athletes from ‘Cali… -
On 7/29/2022 at 12:22 PM, camel at sea said:
OU didn't want to saddle itself with the most difficult conference slate every year. At the time, playing Nebraska, Texas, and A&M annually would have done that.
Hypothetically, you could have set up Texas or A&M with an annual game against the Buffs - who were elite when the Big 12 was formed - and that might have helped OU with the Huskers. But that still left one of those two without a "peer" North division school as a cross-division opponent. Texas and OU weren't going to sign on for CU and Nebraska, annually, while A&M played a pre-Pinkel Mizzou.
KSU hadn't shaken off their historical stink, ISU and Mizzou were both terrible at the time, and KU wasn't a good enough program to be the annual opponent of Texas or A&M.
The SEC's cross-division slate always worked because they had a "Big 6." The two divisions could be balanced, with balanced schedules. The Big 12 1.0 need another heavy-ish hitter in the North. The best option out there for that was BYU (which was rolling and had a recent-ish NC and Heisman winner) but it would have meant being a 14 team league.
What Big8 & SWC should have done is dissolved & reformed (in 1990):
Texas
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Missouri
Iowa State
Nebraska
Kansas
Colorado
BYU
Pick 2 brands to tag along in Texas Tech/ Oklahoma State ect (my choice, those 2)
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On 7/4/2022 at 8:18 PM, Sabalo said:
what happened to @kopp0e? He kept this thread alive for a decade and I haven't seen a post from him since the USC, UCLA news?
I still post mostly on the Sooner site… I’m fine since OU & UT are staying linked…
USC & UCLA made the wisest choice available at the disposal as OU/ UT bolts…
I do have to admit I worry about Arizona State long term as PAC may be ‘shaky’…
B1G-
Miami
Georgia Tech
Duke
Virginia
Notre Dame
Maryland
Rutgers
Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
Illinois
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska
USC
UCLA
Stanford
Oregon
Washington
SEC-
Virginia Tech
North Carolina
Clemson
Florida State
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
LSU
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Missouri
Kansas
Colorado
Arizona
Arizona State
That’s the list I’ve been selling long term for both SEC & B1G (for 2036ish or so)…
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On 7/3/2022 at 2:39 PM, Sbbruin said:
How stuck are the current PAC and Big 12 to their current makeup. Seems to me the recent additions to the Big 12 no longer make sense, not all of them. Seems like you could create a decent conference with the best of each conference. Although you still lack real solid media markets outside of Dallas and Seattle. The Bay Area doesn’t watch Cal/Stanford,
To me it would seem a good idea to place the best brands in 1 league…
Washington
Oregon
California
Stanford
*San Diego State
*UNLV
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
TCU
*Houston
In doing so it leaves room to regain part of Los Angeles tv market eh..?
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7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:
Nope. Florida gets the easy road here.
But I get your joke, 55-20 says differently...
Tiger/ Hog/ Sooner & 'Horn in same quad...
I messed that up somehow on the upload:
Texas-Texas A&M, one of the nations' historic whoop ass "rivalries"...
Oklahoma-Tennessee, both schools had Josh Heupel, at one point...
Arkansas-South Carolina, the original add-ons that gave SEC CCG...
Miss St.-Bama, it's an ol' game that means more to Cowbell for win..?
Ole Miss-Vandy, same as the sentence above I don't know much on...
Auburn-Georgia, I know this is a heated old school tilt with ol' class...
Kentucky-Mizzou, welp they aren't in the same division so it works..?
Florida-LSU, this is a pretty solid game the last few decades lately... -
On 5/13/2022 at 9:30 AM, Saint Austin said:
These pods make the most sense as long as there's one permanent cross-pod rivalry game. I'd do this:
Texas-A&M
Arkansas-LSU
Miss St.-Bama
Ole Miss-Vandy
Auburn-Georgia
Tennessee-Kentucky
Mizzou-South Carolina
Florida-OU
Not perfect, but maintains most rivalries.Texas- Texas A&MOklahoma-Tennessee
Arkansas-LSU
Miss St.-Bama
Ole Miss-Vandy
Auburn-Georgia
-Kentucky
Mizzou-South Carolina
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Could this have been put in place to keep Mizzou from 'overtures' of leaping to B1G with Kansas..?
A Tiger/ Jayhawk pairing and Border War in regaining rivalry with Nebraska would be interesting... -
On 1/4/2022 at 10:34 AM, DiceHands said:
On one hand, its hard not to see this and think OU will finally hit their dark era.
On the other hand, its hard not to see them falling ass backwards into success and their new transfer QB being the next coming of Jesus.
Well there is plenty of logic in your thesis, I think a majority of us Sooner fans feel like the kid on the trike right now, when reality ask what are we waitin' for:
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2 hours ago, taybo20 said:
Hmmm aggy supposed to be in line for NC and yet all their coaches are bailing…interesting
#GetOut (b4 the gettin' is good).??
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Well, thanks for the good times I guess...
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On 11/20/2021 at 10:01 PM, trza-hawk said:
How is that possible... (I mean I know, bit it seems crazy)...
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I remember an impressive rally where UT rallied vs Cowpokes, crazy stuff...
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1 minute ago, dcar00 said:
its hard to when THEY PICK UP CORRECT CALLS or blatently fail to review. why do we have to keep it out of the refs hands but OU and OSU doesn't?
Hey, I can understand your frustration, as example the onside kick that went against OU in the Kansas State game a few years back...
But whenever Oklahoma (or Texas) win by say 3 score margin it doesn't matter [as much] when we feel the refs might have it wrong...
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2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:
OU is in for a rude awakening. Smart, Saban, etc aren't going to let them get away with it.
Fowler's quote was telling and basically made public what we've known for 20 years now.
If Refs would call it early in the game it would change the dynamic but the Big 12 doesn't give a shit.
Yes, Oklahoma & Texas for that matter will get some "initiation" type calls that favor other SEC schools in years to come...
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Realignment talk not going away
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I think B1G needs Clemson & 1 team in Florida, along with Georgia Tech/ Duke +Notre Dame and probably Stanford to seal Irish...
If B1G is locked out of Texas/ southeast, well B1G will likely be lucky to win 2 titles per decade, long term there needs balancing...