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Ojo Rojo

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  1. We are in a cycle and a moment in time where all of this shit is possible. It's like a fucked up political El Niño. Citizens United royally fucked things up, as one factor. Instead of doing what's right, what's needed, what's Constitutional, now it's "do the shit that nets us the most money." I have a stronger belief in the foundation than you do, clearly. What has to happen is failure. The policies of this administration, and all it stands for, have to fail spectacularly for people who supported it to understand we need to do things differently. That is why I'm rooting for failure. And I think it will happen. There is no way you can do this much dumb, harmful shit without there being huge consequences. Or, if not, then it means nothing that happens in Washington matters one iota and I can stop caring about politics forever.
  2. This all started when I said the Roberts court would follow the Constitution. They did. From there, I have no faith in Trump Co. whatsoever. I don't know if they will follow a Supreme Court order or not. No one does. We may find out soon. What I recognize, that you aren't, is that this is a process; a very delicate one. It's not over. You keep saying it's over and that proves that the republic is done, the Supreme Court are proven stooges, etc. etc., when it's not actually over. The SCOTUS opinion was worded in a very specific way. Without knowing for sure, I would bet that in their deliberations Roberts called for 9-0 to send a message and in exchange the conservatives got their language about due regard to executive power over foreign affairs. One thing this accomplished is that it gave Trump the ability to avoid a showdown. He's fucking around, being a dick about it, of course. Not answering the federal judge's questions, spouting bullshit. Fine, douchebag. The statement from Bukele was made while he was sitting in a room with Trump. As a sycophantic pawn, what the fuck else would you expect him to say? If Trump tells him to release the man, he will release him. Simple as that. What this will boil down to, I believe, is public opinion. It's politics. Do a majority of Americans believe Abrego Garcia should be returned? Does that political analysis dictate that it would be politically advantageous to bring him back, or disadvantageous to not do so? Same question with respect to defying the courts - politically good or bad? I think the wonks are trying to crank out the answers and that's what everyone is waiting for. I think it's close, which is why it has taken as long as it has already.
  3. What do you think the S. Court should have done? What do you think the district court should do?
  4. No. I'm not an expert on procedure in these situations; I don't know how anyone could be since this is unprecedented. What I think would happen is that the judge would continue pressing for information and for the people with that information to appear. Who ordered the plane to take off? Bring them here. Who was the last person to see him alive? Bring them here. Who is our liaison with the Salvadoran prison? Bring them here. Etc., etc. If those people refuse to answer the judge's questions then she can hold them in contempt and put them in jail.
  5. It was more of a rhetorical statement inviting others to say what they think will happen and why. Guess I should have been more clear.
  6. Trump Co. lawyers are trying to figure out what to do, making recommendations and giving advice to the president. If they don't give the updates or the updates don't contain substantive information then I would think contempt is on the table. I guess that would mean that Noem would be subject to contempt since she is the named party and ultimately would be jailed if the government doesn't comply with the court order. That would be something. Ultimately, Trump is going to have to decide whether or not to comply. If he doesn't, I cannot predict what will happen. If Abrego Garcia is already dead, I also cannot predict what will happen next. In either case, chaos, mayhem, massive protests, violence. Or nothing at all.
  7. The language was the result of negotiations between the justices, sure. I won't say who orchestrated it. I agree about the fireworks. Can we all just feel a little bit good about the fact that the Supreme Court didn't suck Trump's dick?
  8. It was 9-0. The reason it is unsigned is so that no particular justice gets assassinated over it. What it does, in practice, is this - it doesn't decide whether the federal court exceeded it's authority, which is the big, huge Constitutional bugaboo. Instead, it gave the district court a shot at language that wouldn't offend the executive's foreign affairs authority, it also gives the government a chance to comply and bring the guy back without having to answer the big question. They even signaled what word to use, "direct." It's basically saying, "Okay, pres., your move. But if you force the issue you are not going to like the answer."
  9. It's pronounced, "Ekki, ekki, ekki, ekki, ptang."
  10. Jesus. Fine. If I win you have to come on here and say, "Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG."
  11. So, agree with everyone here, or else?
  12. AI Overview Learn more A "gentleman's bet" typically refers to a wager, often involving no money, where the agreement to honor the outcome is based on honor and sportsmanship, rather than a formal contract.
  13. Et tu, immamac?
  14. Non-histrionicism? It's sad that a guy with some faith in the system gets insulted and shouted down like this. No dissenting opinions allowed? Sounds familiar. I haven't lost all hope yet, and for good reason. None of this shit has played out, despite what anyone says. If all of you really believed that the Republic was dead, why haven't you done something? I mean, something other than lament it on the internet. If the courts abandon the Constitution and bend the knee or if Trump Co. openly violates a final court order, then I'll believe it's over.
  15. You don't have to do anything; that's what a gentleman's bet is. If it turns out I'm wrong I will be the first to accept and admit it. I will also be the first out on the street with my torch and pitchfork. Nope. Just following the directions of the U.S. Supreme Court.
  16. File a habeas petition in the jurisdiction where I'm detained. If they ship me off before I can do that then I also claim a violation of the 5th Amendment for lack of due process. My case will go through the courts and, if the courts follow the law (and their most recent opinion), I will be returned.
  17. Gentleman's bet?
  18. I know. What hasn't happened yet is that the case has not reached the end. Gentleman's bet - the courts will order him returned and he will be. You also can't read or understand legal opinions.
  19. You have lost your fucking mind.
  20. You and Wildcat and Fudge Nuggets and Dahobbs can writhe around in ashes while wearing your sackcloth and wail about things that haven't actually happened yet, that's fine. I'll pass. I'm not blind. I see what's happening. Bad things have happened, but the courts have not had their final say on any of them. This most recent opinion is not a bellwether or the final word. It's a step in the process. Get ahold of yourselves.
  21. Sorry, dude. You're wrong. From SCOTUSblog: The court made clear that – as the government agrees – the plaintiffs, as well as others who may be detained or removed under the AEA, are entitled to be notified “that they are subject to removal under the Act.” Moreover, the court added, addressing an argument made by lawyers for the plaintiffs during oral arguments in the lower courts, the government must provide that notice “within a reasonable time and in such a manner as will allow them to actually seek habeas relief in the proper venue before such removal occurs.” You have issues.
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