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  1. You guys know I’ve been the Bowman apologist from day 1.  I believe I predicted a 10-win season this year…. It was looking dicey there for a bit but we pulled it off.

    So I’ll say it now - we’ll win the Big 12 and go to the CFP next year. 

    Boom.

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  2. 18 hours ago, MrBig said:

    I know we’re talking about Texas teams, but it pisses me off that Gundy’s team has had EIGHT 10-win seasons since 2010.

     

    To put that in perspective, OSU has only had 11 ten-win seasons in its HISTORY.  Gundy was head coach for the most recent eight…. And he was starting QB for two of the other three (‘87 and ‘88)….

    The only other one was 1984 that had a killer defense (Leslie O’Neil was the starting DE) built by Jimmy Johnson (he had left for Miami after the ‘83 season) and Thurman Thomas…. Also the starting QB on that team was Rusty Hilger, who ended up being a career backup in the NFL.

    The maddening thing about those 80s teams - all three went 10-2 with their two losses all three years to, you guessed it, OU and Nebraska.

    In between 1984 and 1988 OSU went 0-10 against OU and Nebraska and 44-4 against everyone else.

  3. 1 hour ago, Jkwellborn said:


    Pretty sure he was banged up some before the Texas game.

    He was not fully healthy in any game after Bedlam.

    Healthy enough to play, obviously, but his ankle limited his explosiveness after that. You could see a noticeable drop-off in speed/explosiveness after that. Still really good, but not like he was through Bedlam.

  4. 44 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

    It's also based off of Brooks' performance against Texas, which also featured our D-line dominating Tech's OL. Brooks managed almost triple the yardage, most of which was after contact.

    What I saw in both games was that Tahj Brooks was a lot harder to catch and bring down for our defense than any other running back we faced -- and for the same front seven guys of ours. Tech wasn't doing any better job blocking -- worse, really. They sure as hell weren't scheming him into better plays. When they brought down Ollie Gordon, it was: Another day, another dollar. But when they brought down Tahj, you could just see the guys going, "Whew, thank GOD we got him down."

    And if you look at the statistics of both games, you'll see what I mean; Tech managed 80 yards less of total offense than y'all against our D (281 for you over 56 plays for 5 yards per play, 198 for the Zorros in 61 plays for 3.24 Yards per play). But Tahj had much more success: 95 yards on 19 carries at a nice even 5.0 yards per carry, versus Ollie's 13 for 34, a downright pedestrian 2.6 yards per carry.

    So the evidence of both my own lying eyes and the statistics is that both of y'all had shitty OLs, but Tech's is even shittier, and yet Tahj managed to get double the yards per carry that Ollie did. And that's just if we take the games in isolation, here. I put to you that if Ollie played for Tech and Tahj played for y'all, Tahj would be the rushing leader and Doak winner, and by a lot more than Ollie won it this year.

    OK man that’s cool.

    I just tend to judge players based on a larger sample size than one game. Against 7 common opponents, Ollie had a significant edge in production.

    And again - Tahj is two years older than Ollie. You’re comparing a four-year senior starter to a true sophomore who has been the full-time stater for less than a season.

    You think Ollie might be somewhat tougher to bring down consistently two years from now with continued physical development and significantly more in-game experience?

     

  5. 1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

    Gordon wasn't the best top 5 RB we faced.

    The Tech guy... that guy's legit. Absolutely the real thing.

    Brooks is really good for sure.  But I feel like you are basing this just off Gordon’s performance against Texas, which had more to do with your D-line dominating our OL than anything Ollie did or didn’t do.

    Brooks and Gordon faced seven common opponents in conference play - WVU, Houston, K-State, Kansas, BYU, UCF and Texas.  Their stats in those seven games:

    • Gordon - 163 carries, 975 yards (6.0 ypc), 14 TDs
    • Brooks - 169 carries, 859 yards (5.1 ypc), 6 TDs

    And because they weren’t common opponents, those exclude two of Ollie’s statistically best games (OU and Cincy).  

    It’s also worth mentioning that Brooks was a senior this year while Ollie was/is a true sophomore. When Ollie is Brooks’ age, he’ll be on an NFL team not playing college ball.

    Brooks is really good to be sure, but there’s a reason Ollie won the Doak Walker Award.

  6. 20 minutes ago, El Squared said:

    Ollie Gordon acted like he smoked the same batch of weed as Gundy last night. Slow and minimally active. Maybe saving himself for some NFL scout team role next year or the CFL.

    It wasn’t his best game to be sure, but I mean - he ran for 100+ yards against a stacked box and an entire defensive game plan designed to stop him.

    You could see that in our approach as well - Bowman threw it 49 times (most attempts on the season). 

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  7. 11 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

    Oklahoma State's over/under win total will be interesting.

    I think it will be 8.5 and I'll probably hammer the under like I did with TCU this year at 7.5. That's just based on precedent for teams the following year based on the "luck" factor. 

    But I can definitely see Oklahoma State being good next year based on the entire OL returning, some weapons at WR, and Gordon. 

    It’s really more than that. We basically have everyone back except for Bowman (probably).  We’re also getting Stribling back from injury which is basically like pulling an elite receiver out of the portal.  The fact that spare parts like Leon Johnson and Rashad Owens were out there piling up 100-yard receiving games after Ollie got going really makes me wonder what kind of insane numbers Stribling would have put up in that stretch.  He will be a HUGE problem next year for teams stacking the box to stop Ollie.

    I also am very bullish on defensive improvement next year.  For starters it will be year 2 of Nardo, and so there will just be some improvement based on having the same DC for two years in a row, which we haven’t had since 2020-21.  The biggest problem BY FAR with the defense this year was our freshmen safeties getting abused by any team with a competent downfield passing game. We kind of knew those guys were gonna take some lumps this year and once teams figured out they were easily confused they were picked on constantly.  Some of that will just improve year-over-year based on accumulated experience.

    The biggest factor for OSU ceiling next year will be what happens with the QB situation. You know what your’e gonna get with Bowman, but we’ll see if we decide to try and pluck someone out of the portal or just roll with one of our young guys. Given everything around them (experienced OL, Ollie, experienced and deep WR corp) it would seem to be the ideal season to break in a young QB, but the normal “young QB” lumps could happen, but then also one of those guys (Flores maybe) could have a much higher ceiling than Bowman. We’ll see.

    But on the other side of the equation, the schedule is fairly difficult.  We are stupidly playing South Dakota State for some reason (currently undefeated and about to play in the FCS championship game) and Arkansas in non-conference and we have road games in conference at K-State, BYU, Colorado, Baylor and TCU and home games with Arizona State, Utah, TTU and WVU.   We basically play every serious conference contender next year except Arizona.

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  8. On 12/13/2023 at 8:39 PM, baboso said:

    Ah, that makes sense.  Hope he made a full recovery on the back thing.  Just getting in the USMA is not a small thing and then he served.  Props to your bro.

    Thanks! Yeah he’s fully recovered. 

    And yeah it was pretty wild having him on active duty in Europe during and after 9/11 and Afghanistan/Iraq, etc. As luck would have it, because he decided to go overseas for his first deployment and was forward-deployed in Kosovo for a time, he had rotated back to the U.S. and was at Leonardwood basically right when the second Gulf War started.  Then his back thing happened shortly after that and so he never had to go, but most of his USMA buddies who didn’t do an over-seas deployment did go and, sadly, his best friend from USMA was killed in Falluja. It was wild because it made national news because of what happened (basically some ISIS dudes disguised themselves as Iraqi military, got access to a U.S. base and just grabbed the first few guys they saw and my brother’s buddy just happened to be one of them. So sad.)

    One interesting thing he did state-side was joined the Army Corp of Engineers down in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina/Rita. (He’s a civil engineer). He was there for several months working on re-buidling the levees. The photos he has from his time there are pretty incredible. I remember he sent photos from some kind of command center he was in when Rita hit after Katrina…. They were sitting there watching live video of the levees they had just repaired get breached again. Crazy.

  9. On 12/5/2023 at 9:50 AM, baboso said:

    An USMA grad that retired as a Captain?  Full retirement, 20 years of duty?

    Hey sorry I know this is from a few weeks ago.

    No he didn't do the full 20 years. He retired from active duty after only about 6-7 years. I don't recall exactly how many years it was, but basically after he graduated from USMA he was in Europe for about 4 years... stationed in Schweinfurt, Germany,... after that he came back the U.S. and was at Ft. Leonardwood in Missouri for a few years and while he was there he fucked up his back in a training thing badly enough where it required surgery. (I don't recall the years exactly - this was all in the early 2000s)

    Anyway - after the injury he had the option to retire from active duty at that point and so he decided to go ahead and do that.

    (I don't recall exactly how many years of active duty is required when you graduate... I think it's 7 or 8... I think he basically shaved a year off due to the injury)

  10. 3 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

    I thought the OSU posters said Gundy had become like Buddha and only did coach speak.

    Because damn. He is shitting all over us. I mean good for you Gundy, you beat our ass over and over.

    Hope we beat his ass.

    I don’t get how this is “shitting all over you.”

    He literally gives a high-level summary like this about every team we play every single week.  

    Just because the title is some stupid click-baity headline doesn’t mean that was what the actual content was.

    He’s just talking about general offensive concepts not “predicting the playcalling”, FFS.

     

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  11. 15 hours ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

    I mean, they aren’t very talented because Gundy is a redneck shit head who ran off a bunch of his good players. Seems like that should factor in.

    Huh? 

    Let's review key players who left and why:

    • Mason Cobb (LB) - got NIL payday from USC 
    • Jabbar Muhammad (CB) - got NIL payday from Washington
    • Thomas Harper (S) - got NIL payday from Notre Dame
    • Spencer Sanders - wanted a bigger NIL payday than he had at OSU - settled for Ole Miss when no other options came to pass. Rode the bench all year.
    • Bryson Green (WR) - portaled to Wisconsin because he was behind two other WR starters at X
    • Braylin Presley (WR) - portalted to Tulsa because he said he wanted to be given a shot at RB (lol he's 5'8" and like 165 pounds - barely played on a shitty Tulsa team this year)
    • John Paul Richardson (WR) - really the only head-scratcher. Portaled to TCU. Gets to stay home for the holidays now instead of playing in the Big 12 title game.

    It would have been nice to have JPR this year with all of the WR injuries we had; really Muhammad and Harper were the only big losses, but not much you can do if you're out-bid by richer programs. 

  12. 16 hours ago, Eastwood said:

    This. "It's Division I football! This ain't IMG Academy." Look at none other than Sark at Texas for an example of how establishing a 5 Star Culture over time helps a program. College football isn't plug and play. It's about establishing and keeping long term momentum. He built a roster of mercenary athletes who wanted immediate results and those athletes and recruiting commits are already jumping ship.

    100%.

    This is what I was saying from the very beginning about Deion. There's VERY FEW programs out there that can win just by accumulating the most talent, and even then it's not just "plug and play."  He was able to do that at Jackson State because of the low competition for talent at that level, but life in the P5 can come at you fast, and every game is a battle unless you're one of the 2-3 super elite talent factories.

    You need to build up quality depth and continuity, especially on the OL/DL and I can't see any way he's going to do that with his current strategy.  That HAS to be done through mostly HS recruiting/development and then augmented by the portal, not the other way around.

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  13. 15 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

    K-State also had some of the most insane luck I've seen in the Big 12. 5/9 opponents were against back up QBs. Their fans should be pissed they didn't make the Big 12 championship game. 

    UCF (played 2nd string QB)

    Texas (played 2nd string QB)

    Texas Tech (Played 2nd and 3rd string QB)

    Kansas (Played 3rd string QB)

    TCU (Played 2nd string QB)

     

    Good grief that hadn't even occurred to me. That's a run that would make 2022 TCU blush.

  14. 1 hour ago, Rickylovesweed said:

    I’m not sure how good Kansas State is after this last weekend. 4 loss team that lost to our 2nd string QB and avoided OU.

    I’m starting to think K-State was just mediocre as hell. The only bizarre result was OU compared to the rest of the season. Not sure that was even bizarre since it’s a rivalry game. Weird shit happens. 

    I’m not sure I’d put a ton of stock in one game played in a snowstorm where KSU basically had nothing to play for.

    They were blowing everyone out for about a month. I think they’re a good team.

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  15. 4 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

    Not sure about terrible but they definitely aren’t 9-3 good. This is a 7-5 caliber team that found a way to squeak out a couple wins they shouldn’t have won. 
     

    The line is -15 for a reason. 

    This has been, without question, the weirdest season in Gundy’s tenure, even if you throw out the non-conference games, which Gundy inexplicably decided to treat like NFL pre-season games, the variability in performance has been all over the place from week-to-week or even within the same games.

    The team’s only real sustained run of mostly excellent play was the stretch of the K-State game through Bedlam. Then there was the absolute no-show at UCF followed by the bizarre Jekyll and Hyde performances in the Houston and BYU games.

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all of we get blown out on Saturday, but the only thing I’ll say is this the kind of spots that Gundy typically excels in. 

    We’ll see.

     

  16. 24 minutes ago, NoName said:

    this is CFB, not an RPG. you don't get more credit because you used guys from the prior year and they got better. the results are what matters and all we have are those results.

    last year? 1 win. this year? 4 wins.

    if you don't think that's upward momentum in the eyes of the AD, students, donors, coaches, recruits, media and CU fans...idk what to tell you.

    Sure but let's not act like Colorado was firing out 1 win seasons every year for a half decade or something. He basically brought them back to where they were (more or less) before they cratered to 1-11 in 2022:

    • 2021: 4-8
    • 2020: 4-2
    • 2019: 5-7
    • 2018: 5-7
    • 2017: 5-7

    So yes it's an improvement over the abject disaster of 2022 but they averaged 4.8 wins in the prior 4 full seasons they played before 2022. (And even managed a winning record in the Covid year)  And if you go back one more year to 2016 they were 10-3. (Yes that was kind of fluky but 10 wins is 10 wins)

    Their 2024 schedule has quite a few landmines:

    OOC:

    • North Dakota State (high potential for yikes)
    • @ Nebraska (Ruhel in year 2 will probably be much better)
    • @ Colorado State (will be tough)

    Big 12 home games:

    • Baylor (who knows - maybe winnable)
    • Oklahoma State (TBD based on Ollie Gordon returning and who's at QB)
    • Kansas State (likely tough)
    • Cincy (probably winnable)

    Big 12 road games:

    • Arizona (likely very tough)
    • Kansas (assuming Daniels is there will be tough)
    • Texas Tech (probably tough)
    • UCF (probably tough)

    They could very well be 0-3 after the non-conference schedule. There's a lot of roster unknowns right now but getting both OSU and KSU at home will be nice for them. I could see best case for them beating Cincy and Baylor and then one of OSU/KSU at home and then winning one of the 4 road games.

    Looking at the schedule on its face it seems like it may be pretty tough for them to get past 4-5 wins.

    But again, we'll have to see where everyone stands after the big game of musical chairs is done.

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