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  1. 9 minutes ago, C-Man said:


    One thing my wife mentioned a few days ago is how fucking fast everything went. Was there a real autopsy? Did they go in and find the bullet that killed him to match it to the weapon he supposedly used? It takes a couple days normally to prepare a body but wasn’t Kirk’s body in AF2 the day after, maybe two days after.

    I didn’t believe the text exchange. It was too perfect. The law dogs have commented that the death penalty really doesn’t apply here — maybe they know that and are putting it out there to get the kid to get scared, crack and really confess not over a dubious text exchange.

    There's almost no physical evidence being presented in this case.  Just completely weird.  You'd think they'd get the bullet, do GSR on this kid's clothes, test the rifle to see if it had been fired, etc.  These are all standard gumshoe practices when investigating a shooting.  Not as important to the Trump run Feds as making sure everyone knows this kid is a trans loving leftist or whatever.  

    Another weird thing to me is how limited the online evidence is against this guy.  So we've supposedly got these texts where he confesses to literally everything like the world's biggest idiot.  The other evidence was him being a gamer and using Discord and the messages they got off of that app.  Messages where absolutely nothing of note about Trump or Kirk or anything political is discussed whatsoever.  Just that this guy pretended not to be the shooter and then later confesses to his Discord pals that he offed Kirk, says he appreciates them, and then says goodbye.  Uh, what the fuck?  You don't have this guy's social media?  He never posted on Reddit even though one of his classmates specifically described him as a "Reddit kid?"  He doesn't have an Instagram, a Snapchat, a Twitter account, nothing?  Nothing about his Internet search history?  Did he wipe his computer before he went to shoot Kirk or something?  Or, is it that it would completely torpedo the narrative of this guy being a sweet, innocent MAGA child that got poisoned by the Left's evil rhetoric into becoming a trans loving killer if you showed what he'd actually been doing online?  I doubt ol' Patel and friends would want to tell all of us that his search history is full up of Nick Fuentes videos and that the most trafficked site he goes to is 4chan.  

    Sorry, but this guy can't just be online to play Helldivers.  How in the world did he get radicalized to hate Kirk if he wasn't gorging himself on internet political content?  

     

  2. 18 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

    Okay so after reviewing the text messages vs the discord messages, it's pretty clear to me that the conversation between roommate and shooter were written by someone else. Look at the sentence structure, wording, and punctuation differences. In the FBI obtained messages everything is punctuated and properly capitalized for the most part. Also, there are tons of phrases that young people just do not use. Then you get the discord stuff and it's normal 22 yr old everything. Hardly ever capitalizing at the beginning of sentences unless the phone forces it and no periods. Thats how kids text. All of us that have them know this. That was not written by a kid. 

    Yeah, ChatGPT would have done a better job fabricating those texts than whichever boomer Fed Trump flunky did.

    These people are in their 20s and obsessed with memes, so much so that the shooter leaves meme messages on the bullet casings.  Yet, in the texts, neither the shooter or his roomie even abbreviate anything, much less talk in online speak.  

    Plus, the texts are what the smart detectives in the movies would call an orgy of evidence.  First Robinson admits to committing the shooting.  Strike one.  Then he admits to leaving the gun in the woods.  Strike two.  Then his roomie asks him why.  They literally ask him for his motive.  Seems like you'd already know the opinion of the guy fucking you and living with you on an issue such as this, but c'est la vie I suppose.  He admits to not liking Kirk and Kirk being a hate spewing POS.  Strike three.  Then his roomie, for some fucking reason, asks him how long he's been planning the shooting!  It's like this roommate is a fucking police interrogator!  He admits to planning it for about a week.  Premeditation.  Strike four.

    Does none of that sound suspicious to anyone else?  He's talking with his trans lover and this person is just essentially reading off of a "How to Get People to Confess to Everything" manual.  He also specifically refers to his trans roomie as "my love."  First, that's just a weird as fuck Victorian era way of speaking that 22 year old Gen Z fuckheads wouldn't talk like.  Secondly, it specifically paints the roomie as his trans lover which was the angle the Republicans were pushing from the jump.  On top of all that, Robinson goes out of his way to explain the bullet casings, even saying "remember how I was engraving bullets?"  Why would he bring this part up?  Especially if the roommate already knows he had been fucking around with the bullets.  It is terribly convenient for the Republican prosecutors though who now can tie the messages up as shitposting by a leftist who wanted to get a rise out of conservatives.  

    Even if you don't think the messages are just out and out fabrications, it's clear they're not ALL of the messages that were sent.  There are no time stamps and the ellipses indicate that they're skipping some of the texts.  So in the best case scenario, they've given us a curated set of texts designed to maximally push their narrative.

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  3. 1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

    State sponsored homicide is barbaric and unfitting a modern society. But it we are going to do it, it should absolutely be public. And don't do any of those neuromuscular blockers and shit in the process. Let's make sure that the full spectacle is clear to the people that support it. 

    Yeah, I don't think these guys are truly pushing for state sponsored killings.  More just advocating for modern day lynchings by angry mobs.  Love how these two imbeciles have no problem dropping the hard R in their song, either.  The mask is truly off these people.  The shit is just out in the open now and they aren't afraid of any repercussions.   

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  4. 6 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

    From what I understand, the bullet fragmented off his bullet-proof vest and shrapnel went through his neck. I don't even know if they can run ballistics off that. Not sure if they even need that with everything else they have.

    You're about to get some seriously angry messages from imma and the other ammosexuals on here about how you're an idiot because he clearly just got shot in the neck.  Sorry in advance!  

  5. 1 minute ago, MrBig said:

    Have they found the bullet that killed Charlie yet? How do they know it’s the right weapon if there is not even a matching bullet yet?

    Hey, stop worrying about all that important physical evidence stuff!  The Republican governor and Trump's podcaster FBI director have already told you what the story is.  Furries!  Trans!  Lefty killers!  Quit asking questions, citizen, otherwise you might be getting a visit.   

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  6. 25 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

    After the Klippenstein reporting and seeing the texts from the charging document, I don’t think he was a groyper or alt-right or blackpilled. One of those seemed like the most likely explanation because the engravings of memes on the bullets was consistent with previous public shooters radicalized by that part of the internet.

    Seems to me like he grew up a pretty typical conservative kid then met a trans girl and probably began softening on trans issues as a result. I think this has it right:

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    Sorry, but this kid absolutely was involved in some dark, far-right spaces on the internet.  There's the photo of him doing the Pepe squat meme which is specifically a groyper/blackpill thing.  He dressed up for Halloween riding a Trump blowup doll that was painted green to be Pepe.  And him having a trans partner is also a groyper thing because of transmaxxing.  

    The only thing right now that suggests he wasn't a groyper are these text messages where he super conveniently lays out his motive and his old man being too MAGA.  Which, ironically, also doesn't clear him of being a groyper because Nick Fuentes has been bashing Trump for a long time now.  These guys are further right than MAGA.  They don't like Trump and they don't like the Trump lackeys like Kirk who they feel are soft on Israel and Jews in general.

    Again, real odd this supposedly ultra-smart guy just spills the entire plot with his motivations word for word perfect in some texts.  This meme obsessed goober is writing out full sentences ending with "my love" while laying out his movements and motive so perfectly that it becomes a slam dunk to convict him?  Also odd that he supposedly was able to assemble/disassemble his weapon enough to be able to hide it in his pants, but he just leaves it in the wooded area right next to campus to retrieve later.  He had already made a completely clean get away.  No one was looking for him.  They were busy with the two fake guys, one of whom straight up said he was trying to help the shooter get away!  So why dump the rifle?  Take a minute, pack it up in your pants/backpack like you did before, and then continue getting away.  Especially since you're so concerned about getting the rifle back to your pops/granddad.  Nah, instead he decides to dump a highly obvious long rifle which is literally the only piece of physical evidence tying him to the crime in some trees right next to campus so he can go back later to get it.  Then he texts his bussy to tell them exactly, word for word, what he did.

    Trump lackeys in law enforcement are desperate for this to be a leftist trans person who killed Charlie Kirk.  Well, would ya look at that?  Here's some texts where we find out he was a leftist with a trans girlfriend and they told us everything from A to Z and it all lines up exactly as we'd hoped!  What a kawinkidink!  Oh, the fact that we supposedly have caught this dude red fucking handed but he's not cooperating with us?  Just ignore that.  In fact, here's ol Crosseyed Kash Patel to tell you he's on top of everything and it's going exactly how Trump wants it go!  Whoops.  I mean ol' Valhalla Patel is on the case to get all the facts and make sure justice is done..  Yeah.  That.     

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  7. 24 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

    A reminder that Tyler Robinson turned himself 4+ days ago in and is still "not cooperating". Great work, Utah law enforcement and the FBI. 

     

    "Ok, listen here son.  We know you did it.  All we need is for you to say is that you're a radical leftist who was desperately in love with your trans roomie.  That bussy was just too tempting for you.  So you shot Kirk to make your furry trans lover happy.  K?"

    "But, but, but I'm a Groyper! I killed Kirk for a laugh and because he's a dirty Jew lov. . ."

    "No, no, no.  Leftist.  Trans.  Boy pussy.  Stick to the script.  A heartfelt apology and remorse that you turned your back on your caring, MAGA, freedom loving family would also be a big help."

    "But that's not tru. . ."

    "And by the way, you're absolutely getting the death penalty immediately with no appeals or extended time on death row.  Trump actually wants you shot as soon as you leave the court house.  So, yeah.  Here's a pen!" 

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  8. 1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

    The behavior of a projectile in a body or "piece of meat" can be highly unpredictable.  They are capable of producing gnarly exit wounds and also no exit wound at all and also just drilling pretty much straight through.  A lot of it depends on the type of bullet (soft point vs. full metal jacket and there's a wide variety of behavior from various soft point designs) and what it actually hits on the way through.

    Maybe we get more information today that will clear some things up.  Like they haven't said a peep about the actual bullet, which should be in their possession.  Also nothing about whether they tested the gun to see if it had been fired or if they tested Robinson himself for GSR since they picked him up in the same clothes he did the shooting in.  Seems like that would have been a quick and easy thing to do to say, yeah, this is our guy and he absolutely did it.

  9. 16 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

    No. He hints > 1 person and likely the Jews.

    No blood libel, though: 

    Kind of lazy IMO. 

    My take is base purely on my conjecture of a 4chan masturbatory fever dream.

    You want something that's not lazy?  In my quest to understand the ballistics behind the shot and whether Kirk was wearing body armor or not, I ran into this guy.  Who thinks a guy behind Kirk had a cellphone gun.  Yes, a cellphone gun.

    https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1ZkKzZakMqdKv

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  10. 12 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

    Where did the idea that there’s no exit wound come from?

    So the official story (which I'm not claiming is bullshit, I'm just confused on the physics of the whole thing) is that the shooter shot Kirk from his front from the roof of that building.  Except when you see the video of Kirk getting shot he moves before the wound shows up on his neck.  Most people seem to think he was hit in the chest on some body armor he was wearing and that the bullet ricochets up into his neck.  Hardly anyone thinks the bullet went straight into his neck because that would have ripped his entire neck apart and left a giant exit wound.  There are several videos from multiple angles of the shooting, including ones where you can see the back of Kirk's neck and there is no exit wound back there.  

    I'm not a gun guy, so maybe I'm completely off base here, but it seems to me that getting shot by a large caliber bullet from a high powered rifle in the front of your neck would leave an exit wound on the back of your neck/head somewhere.  There isn't one from everything I've seen.  Thus, the wound we see on Kirk's neck is actually the exit wound and he was shot from behind.  OR he actually was wearing body armor that took the initial hit and the ricochet went up into his neck and thus was tumbling to create a larger wound and wouldn't have the kinetic energy at that point to create an exit wound.

  11. 54 minutes ago, immamac said:

    Dude got shot in the neck. It's pretty fucking easy to see. 

    Yes, because .30 cal bullets fired from high powered long rifles hit a human's neck and leave no exit wound.  Here I was thinking Kirk was a pencil necked dweeb when in reality he's got a bull neck with a muscular density surpassing that of the world's strongest men.  Silly me.

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  12. 51 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

    He stuck it in his pant leg and up into a backpack. He acted like he had a limp and limped all the way through a neighborhood, into the campus, into the building and up on the roof. There was a stairway that led directly onto the roof. The whole thing is caught on cameras. He climbs over this small wall next to the public roof area and hides for about 20 minutes where he assembles something with the gun, and then goes to his perch and makes the shot. Then he runs across the giant roof area to the corner farthest away from where Kirk was, throws the gun down to the grass, jumps down, and then walked over to a wooded area across the street where he dumped the gun.

    Since it was caught on cameras they immediately searched the wooded areas because they saw him walk in there. This video does a good walkthrough. 

    The guy is a bit of a dildo but the walkthrough makes sense if you watch all the camera videos. For me, its very strange how easy it is to get up on the roof and get down from it. Its tailor made for a snipers position. Not a difficult maneuver and certainly wouldnt require a bunch of extensive training or anything. The main question for me is how he got the idea to use the roof. Could be as simple as he had been up there before and then heard where Kirk would be setting up and realized he could likely pull it off without having to do anything too complicated. 

    What's weird to me is the shot itself.  If Kirk is actually wearing hard body armor then it makes sense.  Bullet clips the armor plate and then ricochets up into his neck.  But it just really doesn't look like he's wearing any body armor at all.  You can see the outline of his pecs and his nips.  So if there's no body armor for the bullet to deflect from what happened?  He didn't just get shot directly in the neck from the front.  I doubt the entry wound would have been that big and there definitely would have been a gaping exit wound.  So did the bullet hit this cross he was wearing?  Seems odd a .30 cal bullet you'd normally use to kill deer would be stopped by something like that.  Especially considering we don't see any wound/blood on his chest.

    When I first saw the video of the shooting, I immediately thought he'd been shot from behind.  So there would be some small entry wound on the back of his neck and it forces his body to tense up like we see in the video, then the shirt billows out and the gaping exit wound appears on the front of his neck. This guy's video seems to suggest a bullet could have come from behind him.  A bit morbid but he tries not to show the blood and whatnot.  I'm also not claiming any crazy conspiracy theory like Israel killed him or the shooter was a patsy or anything like that.  Just find the shot itself a bit odd.  

     

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  13. 1 minute ago, naija said:

    you didn't see last week? be careful writing anybody off 2 games into a career

    The Bears gave up 52 points today to the Lions who could hardly move the ball in week one.  Obviously he's only two starts in, but he was a handoff merchant in college on a team that cheated their way to a natty.  

     

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