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Papers, please. Surly thread of deportation cruelty dominance
TwiceHorn replied to Captainant's topic in Daily Texan
And they don't have a great record of accuracy in their determinations of who should be held or not. Funny thing, though. The detention request does say its only 48 hours. So, if that were routinely followed, this would be less offensive. https://immigrantjustice.org/for-attorneys/resources/form-1-247a-immigration-detainer-sample/ -
Fuck twatter for not letting you read threads without logging in.
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Papers, please. Surly thread of deportation cruelty dominance
TwiceHorn replied to Captainant's topic in Daily Texan
I don't think anyone's saying this guy shouldn't have been deported. That's not the issue here. The tweet implies that if they's just honored the immigration hold, he wouldn't have committed murder. So, people have offered legitimate reasons for not honoring immigration holds. People have also questioned whether the narrative that this guy is a dangerous criminal is accurate, apart from any other bases for deportation. And, if it's so important to deport criminals instead of making a public spectacle out of deporting otherwise innocent people, they could have sent a couple of guard people down from DC to pick this guy up. Or a couple of ordinary ICE agents. -
Fuck the French nobility, but that horse shit is cruel, evil even.
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Or, if the daily operation of the US Department of Justice was controlled by the President, which it has not been until this year.
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Papers, please. Surly thread of deportation cruelty dominance
TwiceHorn replied to Captainant's topic in Daily Texan
Not every turn, but when it comes to criminal types of any stripe, he's a regular Bill Otis. -
Papers, please. Surly thread of deportation cruelty dominance
TwiceHorn replied to Captainant's topic in Daily Texan
That's a bit of a straw man. The premise is that this guy is a dangerous criminal and should have been detained by ICE, else he wouldn't have committed a murder. The first part is debatable until after he committed the murder. Whether an ICE detainer would have stopped it is also speculation. All of it an amazing application of hindsight bias, like most bail decisions that come under fire. And we're not talking about whether the guy should have been deported, vel non. -
Papers, please. Surly thread of deportation cruelty dominance
TwiceHorn replied to Captainant's topic in Daily Texan
Immigration holds, by their very terms, are only supposed to last 48 hours. Not at all clear that this would have prevented it. Seems like he went home and shot a family member. A lot like second-guessing bail decisions. An interesting note not reported in that article, there apparently was a mental-health warrant issued for his arrest shortly after his release, but apparently last only eight hours. -
Papers, please. Surly thread of deportation cruelty dominance
TwiceHorn replied to Captainant's topic in Daily Texan
The real story on his prior charges, not filtered through ICE or right-wing Twitter. https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/12/19/man-charged-with-murder-for-fatal-reston-shooting/ According to online court records, Morales-Ortez had previously been charged with six different crimes, though the charges were later dropped in each case. Among other cases, he was arrested in June 2020 as a 17-year-old for the June 23, 2019 murder of Jose Lorenzo Guillen Mejia, a 24-year-old Reston resident whose body was found on the footpath behind Hunters Wood Plaza. After more than a year in jail, Morales-Ortez was ultimately released from custody and the charges against him were dropped in 2021 when “it became clear that he was ultimately not the perpetrator,” Fairfax County Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office spokesperson Laura Birnbaum says. * * * Most recently, Morales-Ortez was arrested on Sept. 14 on charges of malicious wounding and brandishing for an incident that occurred two days earlier, online court records show. The charges were dropped on Dec. 15 — the day before this week’s fatal shooting — because prosecutors had “insufficient evidence to move forward” with the case, according to Birnbaum. “The victim told police that they had moved out of the country and would not be coming to court to cooperate in proceedings, regardless of timing,” she told FFXnow. “Sadly, without the victim’s necessary testimony, we could not move forward.” U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement told WJLA that it had sought to detain Morales-Ortez prior to the incident, claiming that he’s a native of El Salvador illegally residing in the United States. A spokesperson for the sheriff’s office told FFXnow that, without a court-issued warrant, the jail had no grounds to keep him in custody, but ICE could’ve picked Morales-Ortez up upon his release. -
Yeah, the need for anything bigger than a DDG is highly questionable. The Ticonderoga class CG, now obsolescent, was originally considered a DDG and is to be replaced by more Burkes. Cruiser-class replacements have been canceled twice.
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Papers, please. Surly thread of deportation cruelty dominance
TwiceHorn replied to Captainant's topic in Daily Texan
Well, that tweet doesn't mention the guy's immigration status. If he has no status, he can be deported on that basis alone. No criminal charges or convictions necessary. If he has some status, depending on what it is, he can only be deported upon conviction of a crime. "He's been charged for seven crimes since 2020" . . , ok, where are the convictions? Now, I suppose you could argue that already deportable immigrants should be prioritized once they've racked up a few criminal charges, but as far as I know, charges alone are not the basis for deportation. -
If it did, it would be a helluva thing. Takings have been a big Bundy-wing conservative shibboleth for a while. The cognitive dissonance on the court would be audible from here. Not that that would stop them from ruling in Trump's favor.
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Didn't see it posted anywhere, but the Milwaukee judge, Dugan, was convicted on one felony count of obstructing federal agents. She was acquitted on the misdemeanor count. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/12/18/milwaukee-county-judge-hannah-dugan-found-guilty-of-felony-obstruction/87675227007/ Appeal incoming.
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TIL there’s something called fraud tourism. Congrats, Minnesota.
TwiceHorn replied to Vato Macho's topic in Cloak Room
The point is not whether there's fraud or not. There is. The point is that this is racist propaganda. -
TIL there’s something called fraud tourism. Congrats, Minnesota.
TwiceHorn replied to Vato Macho's topic in Cloak Room
Yep, it's like a lot of things Trump. Somewhere buried in all the bullshit, there's a nugget of truth.
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