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lemonlime

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  1. I’m going off memory and certainly can’t remember every document in this case. But didn’t the fbi have a certified inventory of what they took from maralago including boxes containing documents stamped certified. Also, trump never argued in court that the documents the government stamped certified didn’t contain the stamp.
  2. Just want to point out that there have been actual studies of this, and they've found that states that have implemented bail reform have had just about no impact on crime rates. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/11/17/pretrial-releases/
  3. No it’s akin to I’m trafficking cocaine and the government seized the contents of my car including kilos of coke, and I start yelling “attorney client” privilege because I happen to be attorney. And then get a special master to review everything that was in my car including the kilos of coke. While the government is forbidden from using the kilos of coke until the judge I hired and picked out says that kilos of coke aren’t subject to attorney client privilege. And then the kicker is that my client is the government. So I’m arguing that my attorney client documents are privileged from disclosure to the client. I respect a lot of your takes. But think this one is bananas.
  4. It’s all a sham. The guy who orchestrated a coup attempt and stole national security documents appointed around a third of the federal judiciary. Many (most?) of whom are grossly unqualified for their role. And all of whom trump appointed with the intention of having them in his corner. Maybe some have maintained their judicial independence. But many, obviously including Cannon who he judge shopped for, are in the bag for perhaps the greatest criminal ever in this country. It’s madness. Trump should have been arrested in January 2021. He’s had another twenty months to consolidate his sycophantic base
  5. Right. But he plainly never had ownership of documents marked classified. Meaning he stole them. Or even under the best possible interpretation since there’s been no trial he somehow possessed documents he didn’t own. To appoint a special master over those documents is still bonkers.
  6. Not just the non-lawyers. But I'll disagree on the complaints about justice being slow. It should be careful, and that at times means slow. The problem here is that our country is no longer led by good faith actors. We have an ex-"president" and his entire party engaged in the indefensible and destroying institutions. And a DOJ acting like this is a typical white collar investigation. And a judge who is a cult member. Cannon's initial decision was bonkers. She essentially assigned a special master to review documents to determine if documents trump stole from the government should somehow be returned to the thief under an imaginary legal theory the thief's lawyers never explained. Yes, that's never been decided by a court before. Because it's fucking crazy. Cannon's not a good faith actor. And trying to put any of the rest of this in a legal framework doesn't really work as a result. There's no legal system, with this, or the transfer of power, or anything, that will withstand being hijacked by bad faith actors. Our entire government, not just the courts, requires that the people in charge actually respect the government. The laws are just paper. If you treat them like toilet paper then that's what they are.
  7. It matters if he’s prosecuted. He will have one hell of a time convincing a jury about his lack of knowledge. DOJ will have the knowledge element of the crime pinned down.
  8. Maybe The Blaze Not real close, but in Sleepy Hollow, NY. It’s a giant jackolantern thing and I believe there’s a haunted house nearby headless horseman themed. You can get tickets online, but they sell out early. There will also be lots of kids at the earlier time slots.
  9. True. But trump'll just file some other nonsense motion with Cannon, asking for special master Judge Jeanine, or something equally silly. And he'll get it, or at least delay Dearie's review until after the election. I hope I'm wrong.
  10. I can't fucking wait for the tweets truth socials on the corrupt special master.
  11. I live about 10 miles outside of NYC, but haven’t contributed much in recent years to this thread as I’m going in far less than I used to. Mainly because the bus that used to pick up 2 blocks from my house all but stopped running during covid and because I do a lot of outdoors stuff (hiking,biking, camping etc) and I’m more likely to be in the Hudson Valley or Adirondacks than the city on the weekend.
  12. They're not even trying to hide that they're Nazis.
  13. Eh, if that were true, they'd delay this. Trump gains nothing by having a decision on a stay reached right away.. The more time lapses, the more likely trump gets off. That they've asked for briefing right away is promising. But, we don't know who's on the panel yet. And even if the 11th grants a stay, fuck knows what Alito and Thomas et al will do.
  14. I don't trust the 11th Circuit at all. But this is at least a somewhat promising sign in that they're certainly signaling they intend to decide on the stay very soon.
  15. It's true that 62% of undocumented immigrants are visa overstays, as opposed to illegal border crossing. You can do the math on the racial differences between those two groups, or why the right only cares about the 38% of undocumented immigrants who crossed the border. https://cmsny.org/publications/essay-2017-undocumented-and-overstays/
  16. Yes, but what you're not understanding is that they need to redact the note that says "document sent to Putin 2/1/21."
  17. So instead of whataboutism, do you support DeSantis using taxpayer money to fly migrants living out of state across the country, and lying to them to coerce them to get on the plane? Is this okay with you? Be honest about supporting kidnapping. Or say something against it. But pick a side.
  18. Um, trump lied about putting up a wall that Mexico paid for, and the wall magically became inoperative in January 2021. Or at least that's what happened in GQP fantasyland.
  19. Hell, do you think any judge would rule that way for any other former president. You think if Obama stole hundreds of classified documents on his way out the door, any judge would've bent the law in this way?
  20. Also the quotes of the "democrat cities" saying they're having a "hard time," other than the Republican governor of Massachusetts complaining about people being kidnapped into his state. Or that "democrat cities" have "few migrants," when for example Massachusetts has about the same amount per capita of undocumented immigrants as Florida. His entire post is a bunch of nonsense cobbled together into something approximating untrue sentences.
  21. The documents marked "classified" couldn't possibly be subject to attorney client privilege. I think the executive privilege argument is off the wall too, but don't want to rehash again.
  22. Sort of correctly. The classification argument is largely a red herring. That the documents are stamped "classified" is only important because it's obvious without any additional information needed that those documents belong to the federal government. Whether the documents actually were classified, or trump could have somehow declassified them, or they were misclassified doesn't really matter much. Trump is arguing he has a personal interest in the documents taken from his home. He couldn't possibly have a personal interest in something the government has labeled classified. Essentially, trump is arguing he has a personal interest in keeping government documents secret from the government, and the judge is saying that someone needs to look over the documents to figure out if trump somehow has a made up personal interest in keeping government documents from the government. And, yeah, it makes zero sense.
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