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Posts posted by notre dame joe
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30 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:
They punished UVA. the rules do not make sense and aren't even consistent in the same season mush less year to year. The committee this year was pure dogshit
I believe the PC wrote their rules incorrectly with what they wanted. They assumed that the P4 conf champs would always be in the top 5 of other conf champs. But they didn't put that into the rules so they were stuck with Tulane and James Madison ranked higher than Duke.
Likewise the ACC probably assumed their top two programs would play for the ACCCG but they didn't make that the official tiebreaker.
13 minutes ago, Skipper said:Sorry, I must have missed the section in the 'playoff committee principals' where they look at "Massey Ratings" or a "simulated BCS" that takes into account the morons that vote in the worthless AP and Coaches polls.
I am glad you asked. The PC always followed the computer rankings, specifically the BCS proxy. Even the year that everyone thinks they screwed TCU for anOSU, the Buckeyes actually got to #4 in the final BCS proxy.
Exceptions.
2023 FSU the PC knew that FSU's qb was out, the computers did not.
2025 ND. The PC knew that it had to include Bama and an ACC team, the computers did not.
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1 hour ago, PittsburghTiger said:
We are a good team. A deeply flawed team but, still not too bad. We shit the bed against a terrible West Virginia team and lost a double-digit 4th quarter lead to Louisville.
Then, were dominated by Notre Dame and Miami. I wish we were better than a four-loss team but, that is where we are. Beating us does not mean a team should be in the playoffs. Notre Dame should not have lost to the two teams they did.
The ACC didn't really have a good OOC win, other than week 1 ND@Miami squeaker and FSU thrashing Alabama; the latter I noted was banned from media discussion even in late September.
Otherwise there were a lot of close games, like GTech having the ball and a chance to win on the last drive @UGA. But nothing (after week 1) to point to that would tell us ACC was just as good as the other three.
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2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:
I wanna know why ND hasn't picked a fight with Ole Miss.
If there is one team that could have gotten moved out and nobody buy Ole Miss fans would have been upset about, it's them. FSU lost a QB and they were out. Ole Miss lost their HC and all the offensive staff, but they remain. That's the oddest one of the committee insanity, imo.
The same reason that ESPN devoted almost no air time to ND vs SEC #5. Bad for business.
2 hours ago, Skipper said:Strictly by the numbers that are supposed to matter (SOS, SOR) Texas, BYU and Vandy all have better claims than ND and Miami.
2 hours ago, BigHornedLurker said:our resident @notre dame joe doesn't realize he's barking up the wrong tree
ND shouldn't have been ranked so high in general , your schedule was weak and you had * 1 good not great win *
A large number of people on this board feel like Texas's case was actually stronger than either ND or Bama, FFS these teams moved up more spots than when we embarrassed #3
The committee in general is full of idiots who couldn't rank a number line , and needs to be eliminated from the selection loop
The computer composite, and average of all the metrics say that ND is 6th. https://masseyratings.com/ranks?s=cf
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2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:I think it's rational to think that had aggie lost to only ND and Texas they would be out and Texas and ND both would be in. The ND win held aggie in the top 10 all season. They lose they run to Texas they are in the top 10, just. The Texas loss puts them at 12-15 and Texas at 11 or 12.
To put it another way, whom did Texas A&M beat other than ND? I promise that I have not looked that up.
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23 hours ago, Deej said:
Notre Dame needs to ask themselves "What would Jesus do?"
Teaching, feeding the poor, and other things better than propping up ESPN's left behind 'bowl games.'
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46 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:
All of this is revealing some deep fractures in NDs position , if even the ACC is too powerful for ND to counter they have serious problems. The ACC is one FSU from falling apart at the seams, meanwhile the SEC and BIG are sitting behind the curtains actually pulling all the strings.
It's lame if you remember that the ACC is a dead man walking conference. Preseason everyone knew it when the conference leadership caved to FSU/Clemson and said they could leave early in exchange for absolutely nothing,
35 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:Just try to say an SEC team does that and gets excluded from the playoff. Try typing it and see how that argument looks.
13 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:Rice, Purdue, Boston College, Stanford, and Syracuse. A real who's who of murderers' row...
So four P4 teams and your old regular SWC opponent? I can say the same thing about East Illinois, Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, SCe.
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On 12/7/2025 at 9:35 PM, BigOrange1 said:
Do you see Eastern Illinois here?
19 hours ago, William Bludworth said:I hate being "that guy," cause it's annoying, but you gotta be down with your punctuation marks, fam. So imma go ahead and add that comma for you.
All love. Straight cash, homie.
CSC.
Cash, strictly cash.
18 hours ago, Vanilla Strange Gato said:The NCST game was played in a hurricane. Brain Kelly lined up in the shot gun like he always does and tried to throw the ball 40 times.
17 hours ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:That’s not a fair comparison. Alabama and Texas are both full members of the SEC.
Miami is a full member of the ACC while ND is just a partial member.
The ACC is a 'partner' who signed a long term contract with ND. If you take a dump in public on your contractual partner you should expect the deal is going to fail.
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22 hours ago, LTbear said:
But would ticket prices be higher for those G5 teams, or for ND? Would the season ticket package be higher for a schedule that had ND instead of a G5?
*To be clear, I recognize that the actual difference is small relative to the entire athletic budget, but I have seen essentially no blue blood or other big program take any step that doesn't attempt to squeeze very dime out of the system that it can.
22 hours ago, Skipper said:Agreed and it's all very interesting to me. Because ND is going to have a seat at the table negotiating playoff expansion. Unless ND already has a handshake deal with Sankey or Petiti to support a preferred plan, ND's temper tantrum the last 24 hours appears on its face to be really poor negotiating strategy and not accurately "reading the room" regarding their current value to this sport because they don't have a lot of cards to play. ND played ONE top 20 rated game the entire season. With committee treatment of TX @ OSU, you already have multiple programs and/or coaches in addition to Sark (I saw Elko for example said as much) questioning the value of scheduling marquee OOC games. ND is in a position where they could very well get shutout if they aren't holding hands with someone. It seems emotional and poorly thought out to publicly attack the ACC. Both those entities need each other.
20 hours ago, closetojumping said:This is similar to the bullshit people float about “no new conference would take Texas” that aggies would tell anyone right up until July of 2021. If Notre Dame told the Big 10 they were ready to join as a full member, the Big 10’s response would be “how soon can you start?!” 💯
This guy gets it.
21 hours ago, TexArcher said:Why, was there a child rape and institutional cover-up, too?
No. Not even from the outside priests are not part of the Brothers of the Holy Cross and were just hired to work at the University. For a Catholic institution that large to escape largely unscathed is head scratching. Our scandal was Ty Willingham.
20 hours ago, 'stache said:Bama finshed the regular season at the top of the SEC after the tiebreakers, hence why they were the home team in the CCG. OU was the fifth team becasue they had two regular season conference losses. They were safely in the field because they beat Michigan in the non confererence game (hence how big noncon matchups can help if you win). Bama was never going to be left out when they had to play UGA because of tiebreakers and Ole Miss and aggy with the same conference record weren't forced to risk anything. Ole Miss especially, if they got blown out days after the coaching change fiasco, they might possibly be excluded, but they got to sit at home and deal with that situation because their SEC SOS was lower than Bamas and UGA's.
I'm aware of that. The SEC designed that inane tiebreaker rule instead of just 'highest in the PC rankings.' So you have your fifth best team playing in the CCG between the top two. So even if you say that 'they shouldn't be punished for the CCG' Right, you are punished for finishing fifth in conference.
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4 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:
ND to SEC?
It's a joke but it's politically correct. Everyone except me is pretending that the ACC kept us out of the college football playoff, because they lobbied for a total of one team in the playoff. Isn't that their job?
We were actually kept out of the playoffs by SEC #5. The SEC has so much power in the media that, l no one is questioning whether the $EC deserved its 5th best team in the top 12. You have a good conference but it is not so good that number five is head and shoulders above anyone else.
And the helmet cancels any question about whether Alabama really was the 5th best team. Could Texas beat Auburn by more than one touchdown?
4 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:Well, just because they did not call this targeting does not mean there were no concussive effects.
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7 hours ago, LTtxfan said:
ND gets favored status in future...
Gerry on OTF tonight said something along the lines of...
- ND as independent gets no conf revenue sharing money
- ND as independent when they make CFP, they don't share CFP money with any other teams
Not making CFP hurts ND financially...
ND gets a token amount from the ACC but not a full payout or even close.
Apparently we don't need whatever the poptars were offering but the bowls seem to need eyeballs badly.
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2 hours ago, ABSR said:
Bowl games are rewards for players, and student organizations such as band, cheer etc. But what bowls really get a team is 3 weeks of extra practice which those teams who don’t go to a bowl don’t get. Helps set up next year and gets more practice for younger players. Even if a lot of seniors opt out, still beneficial all around….so while I get teams with vacant coaching staffs maybe opting out, doing so in general just shows poor and emotional driven decision making.
And the gift bag, kids at that age just love Pop-Tarts.
Not unprecedented, in 1996 Notre Dame was 9-2 having just bungled a big lead in the USC game. Notre Dame felt too big to 'send St Lou out with a win' and declined a bowl. And in that era bowl games mattered a lot more.
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2 hours ago, El Hornarino said:
#7 the the composite of all the computer rankings.
https://masseyratings.com/ranks?s=cf&top=-9
And, the computers don't know that; Miami had hacked the snap count,
Texas A&M had a tell on run vs pass from quarterback Carr's stance.
Neither was likely to be true in the future.
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2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:
How we doin @notre dame joe
Pretty busy with all the people who say that ND gets preferential treatment. 🖕
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32 minutes ago, satyanash said:
Acceptable sort by bad losses.
Or, Sort by wins against conference champions.
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46 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:
- Weber State
- Liberty
- Georgia Southern
- Georgia State
- Louisiana
- Old Dominion
- Texas State
- Marshall
- Appalachian State
- Washington State
- Coastal Carolina
- Troy (Sun Belt Championship)
Play and win vs this schedule and we too could be in the playoffs
Is James Madison going to beat Miami or indiana?
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1 minute ago, WBT said:
I still say Duke should be in the playoff ahead of 130 SOS JMU.
I would do it
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Too.much time 😏
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Seriously
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1 minute ago, Pancho said:
Here comes Ohio State on A&M’s side of the bracket lol
I feel that we are on a collision course with anOSU no matter what happens
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2 minutes ago, Rudiger said:
I have a good friend who says he loves Ohio because he’s an 4 everywhere else but a 10 there.
Sadly when driving from Toledo to South Bend it was noticeable. Like suddenly there was a fun house mirror making everything taller and thinner
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Poor Miami. They spent all week attacking Notre Dame. Now they are in a dog fight with bama for the last slot, and afraid they might lose their lottery ticket for an invitation to the SEC.
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37 minutes ago, mdmost said:
He'd love a 3rd chance to lose by 20+ points to Tech?
Gotta try something.
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1 hour ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:
I think if Miami doesnt go in over ND, then the playoff committee is dead
There's a lot of chit chat about a 'buffer' between ND and Miami because we would be flipped if right next to each other. A weak move for a weak concept. But anywho, but
Bama
ND
BYU
Miami
If BYU gets punished for losing then Bama could get punished if they lose. The family still employs a buffer
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4 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:
Do you think yall will be bumped for Miami? I think yall will be UNLESS they move you up to 9 and Bama to 10 to give insulation.
I think another playoff spot was opened up early this afternoon.
Bump Miami up to 11 and then swap Miami with #10 ND (after we got swapped with Bama for their magnificent one TD win over an inept Auburn)? Gun to my head I would guess NO, Miami already got their stay home and eat cheeseburger award by getting in and possibly being #11.



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The PC said that teams would not be punished for playing in a CCG. They meant teams would not be punished for playing in an SECCG.
This is more scandalous than the Miami switch because it's a clean cut lie. They cleared out the teams inbetween nd and Miami to justify their other trope about teams next to each other.