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  1. 8 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

    Burns is always going to leave some stuff out because he’s a) bound by time and b) trying to make something palatable for the everyday person. If he were to make one that was truly comprehensive, it would easily be three or four times as long and no one but us uber history nerds would watch the whole thing. 12 hours is his bread and butter. I’m sure there is a podcast somewhere that is 96 hours long that gives the full history. 

    What Franklin and Adams were doing was essential to getting France to join the war for the Revolution so succeed.  I suspect Burns want everyone to watch his doc on Franklin.

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  2. 49 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

    this series is about the war and the adjacent effects on society, not about politics or science or foreign diplomacy

    the founding fathers were extremely important but this is not their story

    I'm not sure what you are getting at but a Revolution by definition applies to politics and diplomacy.

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  3. 3 hours ago, The Dog said:

    yeah but it would be really fucking funny. 

    How about Mich loses a close game ala 2006 and the talking heads demand a rematch?

     

    Specifically because the game is on Fox, ESPN manufacturers a reason so they can broadcast it.

  4. 3 hours ago, The Dog said:

    Gonna be wild to see Indiana at #1 after Michigan beats Ohio State again.

    I think that is a potential nightmare for Notre Dame and other bubblers. I have heard if UM>OSUe the Big ten championship game will be between IU and Oregon.  But then they have to put Michigan in the playoff and of course Ohio State is there too.  So four BUG teams. 

     

    Then if they apply head-to-head logic, Oklahoma jumps in based on the win over Michigan. 4 SEC teams too?

     

  5. 52 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

    My problem with it is that there always has to be a supporting cast of sorts, and even a situation where members of that supporting cast are at the same level - one could make the case for Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, etc.

    This one is weak on the supporting cast.  We hear barely any mention of Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin ...  Those men were doing things important to the Revolution.  But Ken Burns, maybe he assumes that we watched his other documentaries. 

  6. 1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

    Couldn't have been improved on but definitely would have liked to have binged it the first time, or at least 3 episodes at a time.

    Washington was definitely the real deal. He dealt with that mutiny, and he could have created a dictatorship of sorts, but he didn't.

    Like that one historian said, I'm not a fan of the Great Man theory, but I feel like Washington is one of a select few that could fall into that category.  I don't think anybody else could have done what he did.  Gates obviously blew it. Benedict Arnold proved that some things cannot be defeated.

    Thus proving the 'Great Man Theory.'

  7. 1 hour ago, boilerhorn said:

    Sagarin's computer rankings have PSU in the top-12.  I guess his computers are giving them credit for losing to good teams?
    http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

    SMH

    College Football 2025 ratings through games of 2025 November 22 Saturday - Week 13
                                    RATING    W   L  SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 |  PREDICTOR   | GOLDEN_MEAN  |  RECENT      | STRONG RECENT
                    HOME ADVANTAGE=[  3.43]                                               [  3.23]       [  3.45]       [  3.60]       [  3.60]
       1  Ohio State           A  =  97.09   11   0   72.14(  46)    0   0  |    3   0  |   94.84    1 |   98.45    1 |  101.11    1 |  107.30    1  BIG TEN             (A)
       2  Notre Dame           A  =  95.29    9   2   74.21(  27)    0   2  |    2   2  |   94.17    2 |   94.80    3 |   99.55    2 |  104.58    2  I-A IND.            (A)
       3  Oregon               A  =  94.12   10   1   74.63(  24)    0   1  |    3   1  |   93.15    3 |   95.05    2 |   96.33    4 |   98.16    5  BIG TEN             (A)
       4  Indiana              A  =  93.64   11   0   71.58(  49)    1   0  |    3   0  |   92.18    4 |   94.31    4 |   96.69    3 |  104.50    3  BIG TEN             (A)
       5  Georgia              A  =  90.92   10   1   75.80(  16)    1   1  |    4   1  |   89.07    6 |   93.38    6 |   92.50    6 |   93.70    7  SEC                 (A)
       6  Texas A&M            A  =  90.26   11   0   75.36(  19)    1   0  |    5   0  |   88.48    7 |   93.90    5 |   90.84    8 |   91.86   11  SEC                 (A)
       7  Alabama              A  =  90.14    9   2   78.64(   6)    1   0  |    6   1  |   90.16    5 |   91.61    7 |   90.36    9 |   91.19   13  SEC                 (A)
       8  Texas Tech           A  =  89.70   10   1   66.50(  71)    0   0  |    2   0  |   87.80   10 |   89.31   10 |   94.36    5 |  102.03    4  BIG 12              (A)
       9  Miami-Florida        A  =  88.90    9   2   72.79(  38)    1   0  |    1   1  |   88.39    8 |   89.51    9 |   90.27   10 |   92.82    9  ACC                 (A)
      10  Mississippi          A  =  87.50   10   1   73.41(  34)    0   1  |    3   1  |   86.48   11 |   89.77    8 |   87.79   15 |   89.44   16  SEC                 (A)
    College Football 2025 ratings through games of 2025 November 22 Saturday - Week 13
                                    RATING    W   L  SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 |  PREDICTOR   | GOLDEN_MEAN  |  RECENT      | STRONG RECENT
                    HOME ADVANTAGE=[  3.43]                                               [  3.23]       [  3.45]       [  3.60]       [  3.60]
      11  Oklahoma             A  =  87.24    9   2   78.17(   7)    1   1  |    6   2  |   86.16   13 |   87.53   12 |   89.41   13 |   92.51   10  SEC                 (A)
      12  Penn State           A  =  87.07    5   6   73.76(  31)    0   3  |    0   4  |   87.89    9 |   84.97   18 |   90.21   11 |   89.34   17  BIG TEN             (A)
      13  Utah                 A  =  87.05    9   2   71.00(  52)    0   1  |    0   2  |   86.47   12 |   85.26   15 |   91.52    7 |   96.82    6  BIG 12              (A)
      14  Vanderbilt           A  =  86.40    9   2   74.56(  25)    0   1  |    4   2  |   85.15   15 |   85.96   13 |   89.63   12 |   93.33    8  SEC                 (A)
      15  Texas                A  =  86.28    8   3   76.37(  14)    0   2  |    2   2  |   85.60   14 |   87.88   11 |   86.58   18 |   85.03   22  SEC                 (A)
      16  Southern California  A  =  85.18    8   3   75.09(  20)    0   2  |    2   2  |   84.73   17 |   85.15   16 |   86.71   17 |   88.23   18  BIG TEN             (A)
      17  Tennessee            A  =  85.15    8   3   72.73(  41)    0   2  |    0   3  |   85.05   16 |   85.54   14 |   85.82   20 |   86.85   19  SEC                 (A)
      18  SMU                  A  =  84.62    8   3   69.83(  59)    1   0  |    2   0  |   83.83   19 |   83.40   21 |   88.07   14 |   91.84   12  ACC                 (A)
      19  Washington           A  =  84.54    8   3   71.10(  51)    0   1  |    0   2  |   84.38   18 |   83.18   22 |   87.35   16 |   90.57   14  BIG TEN             (A)
      20  BYU                  A  =  83.53   10   1   73.11(  36)    0   1  |    1   1  |   81.81   26 |   84.61   19 |   85.20   21 |   90.06   15  BIG 12              (A)

    That's the Sagarin we know and love.  And I somewhat cynically embrace Notre Dame ranking bills mostly upon quality losses.

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  8. 8 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

    When the big 10 added Washington and UCLA and the others (except Oregon) I bet they thought fuck yeah TV revenue. It’s still pac 10 shit football. 

    The point of PAC After Dark is that there was usually a massive scrum to win the Pac12 South and make the CCG.  Now these teams are buried in an 18 team league.

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  9. 23 minutes ago, Iceman said:

    Cincy is dumb too.

    Special teams has 3X missed FGAs tonight.

    Trailing 17-7 and holds BYU to punt.  They lined up over the deep snapper in Cougar punt formation.  They got called for offsides, but either call would do it.

    Efficiency?  Total yards are close but Cincy appears to be 1-10 on 3rd down.

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  10. 39 minutes ago, tfoolry said:

    Nebraska sucks. 

    Penn St - Nebraska should be the rivalry game for Thanksgiving weekend, not that the BUG would allow another rivalry that week.  They could play for the 1994 trophy. 

     

    PSU interim coach actively campaining for the job following the win over mighty NU.

  11. 2 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

    USC and Utah losses help us some. 

    Now we need Michigan to lose to anOSU.  Ohio already has a playoff slot locked up.  But no one thinks the Buckeyes won't ball out to snap the losing streak in their regional rivalry.

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  12. 1 minute ago, PittsburghTiger said:

    70-7 ND over Syracuse 

    Miami called timeout with 2 seconds left so they could beat 3-8 VTech by 17 instead of 10.  Little did they know abosultely no one will be talking about them Monday.

    1 minute ago, PittsburghTiger said:

    UNC leads Duke, 10 penalties to 3.

    Duke converted the two-pointer, 32-25. 2:18 to play

    Is Duke somehow still alive for the ACCCG?

  13. 11 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

    I still can’t figure out how USC is 8-2. Every time I see them they look very weak mentally and just not overpowering in any aspect. I like the QB some but, after that they don’t do much of anything exceptionally well.

    Every time I turn that game on SC either commits a proper turnover or gifts Oregon a 1st down with a penalty.

    Should we stop looking? 

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  14. 2 hours ago, ztejas said:

    I would care more about OU making the CFP if I thought they were actually good enough to beat anybody. 

    OU's win over Michigan seemed ho hum at the time.  But if Michigan upsets anOSU again then it might drag both of them into the CFP.

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