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  1. Kansas was the replacement for A&M. Remember flight tracker? The Pac commissioner stopped in Lawrence.
  2. Good piece. Big 10 didn't need USC and UCLA. They could have waited a decade for ACC schools who fit better rather than flying USC and UCLA women's softball games all around the midwest (to paraphrase our President Powers on why he wasn't interested in Big 10). We don't need a P5, but a P2 is just too few. And at this point the Pac 10 and ACC egos seem to be getting in the way of a logical effort to create a P3 & 4 that are competitive financially (competitive, not anywhere near equal). If the Pac refills with a bunch of MWC schools, the gap vs. the P2 grows. The Pac 12 had the choice to take a bunch of Big 12 schools last summer before expansion, 3 of which they were going to add in 2010.
  3. Oregon and Washington applied to the Big 10 several weeks ago. Every team has reached out to the Big 10 (and every Big 12 and ACC team also according to Big 10 sources).
  4. Well they could have had Texas in 1990, but chose not to. Yeah. Sounds desperate.
  5. Don't know about Dodds, but President Cunningham was never interested. He did talk to the UGA president about it. He was interested in the Big 10 and Pac 10. Big 10 said, call back in 5 years.
  6. They certainly preferred Texas. But they were ready to take aggy in 1990. if you want a reference, there is President Cunningham's book, "The Texas Way," chapter 16. Specifically pages 230-231, "Dodds and I briefed the UT System regents at a board meeting in August 1990 in Odessa, and they gave me an informal nod to proceed with the Pac 10. At that point the board had not discussed the matter in public or taken any votes, but I felt I had their tacit approval to conclude a deal. Mobley was satisfied with our moving west while A&M went east, and both conferences had accepted an arrangement for UT and A&M to continue playing each other on Thanksgiving Day.... The Pac 10 required that its members vote unanimously to accept a new member. I had been assured that this was not a problem and that all the presidents were excited about having UT Austin join the conference. However, at the last minute, Donald Kennedy, president of Stanford, decided he did not want UT to join, and as a result the Pac 10 commissioner, Thomas C. Hansen, called Dodds and withdrew the offer. Hansen was embarrassed that Kennedy had pulled the rug out from under him.... I called each of the regents and explained what had happened. Then I called Mobley, who promptly shut down his discussions with the SEC."
  7. In 1990, the SEC wanted aggy and the Pac except Stanford wanted us. It was on the verge of happening but Stanford vetoed us. In 1994 the SEC did still want aggy. But the Pac and Big 10 weren't interested in Tech. Tech was the anchor then. They had more political power than in 1990. We didn't want the SEC in 1990 and 1994, but they were interested.
  8. Remember. Flugaur is the Dude of Minnesota. His biggest claim to fame is that he likes to troll the Dude of WV. Flugaur talks to this imaginary "Big Ten Man." At least MHVer3 talks to (or reads) fan bloggers who know no more than you or I, but I'm pretty sure they aren't imaginary.
  9. And other than CU's 5th down vs. Missouri, that fumble non-recovery was probably the single worst call I've ever seen.
  10. What happened in 2015? Haven't ever heard that mentioned on this board. You are being facetious, right? The only question is whether the refs were bribed or just hated Charlie Strong and UT. Worst hose job I've ever seen in any sport. It wasn't just one or two bad calls for Okie St.
  11. In football. That was always the issue with the UT to the Big 10. Did we really want to play Minnesota, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana and Purdue? And was Iowa that much better than Kansas St.?
  12. So Chip is just repeating what he heard and not understanding it. Its like reading the Dude of WV. The Big 12 is currently earning about $28 million a year on media rights. The conference distributed $42.6 million per school last year from all sources. So are the experts saying their media will be $30-$35 with distributions of $45-$50 or are they saying it will be $20-$25 with distributions of $30-$35? Those are big differences. That $32 million long term deal for the Pac was something MHVer3 said. So is that Chip's source????
  13. Yes. Although President Cunningham did say TCU was in the running for spot #12. He did not consider UH.
  14. Kind of like the LHN killed the Pac 16 deal. Another internet myth that refuses to die. Along with the Big 12 had the most unequal revenue sharing and that broke up the conference when the 6 who have left are among the 7 haves who favored unequal revenue sharing. When USC was making 3 times what Washington St. was in the Pac 12 and similar for Miami and Temple in the Big East, but the range in the Big 12 was something like $7 million to $11 million. Now aggy and corn aggy gave reason for another myth, that A&M and Nebraska left the Big 12 because of Texas and unequal revenue sharing-and that CU and MU did as well. But when you listen to their presidents after the fact, that's another internet myth.
  15. The ACC expansion was Miami, Syracuse and BC. They publicly toured the Syracuse campus. Then the politicians told UVA they had to vote no unless VT was included. So UVA joined Duke and UNC in opposing Miami until VT was included. The next year BC got in. Syracuse was left holding the bag.
  16. Ann Richards had nothing to do with it. Zero. Zilch. It was Bob Bullock, Lt. Gov.
  17. Yeah. I saw somebody, I think on FtT take apart the Navigate numbers and analyze them. Its not that hard if you read the whole thing and have a couple hours. Now that quick and dirty analysis that took 40% off the top on the Pac wasn't right, but that was pretty obvious. It was only 40% off TV money-basically. $20 million/school, not 40% off all distributions.
  18. The SEC covers every market where college football is big except for Columbus, Ohio.
  19. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34297535/big-ten-expand-additions-usc-ucla-says-commissioner-kevin-warren-adds-additional-value-conference Interesting quote telling you Warren's mindset: "...He also realizes that conference realignment can be costly for other leagues. "If a conference is allegedly on the brink, there are many more issues than members leaving," said Warren. "There are deeper issues. I'm not promoting conferences facing a crisis or going out of business, not at all. But I come out of the NFL for 21 years. In the NFL, either you succeed or you fail, and that's not only on the field. I'm talking about in business, operationally. Either you have your fan base or you don't...."" A different article quoted him (not sure if its linked above or not) as saying expansion wouldn't be considered until AFTER their new TV deal is signed in August.
  20. Whatever else you say about DeLoss, he turned Texas athletics into a cash cow. He did a great job financially. Now I thought it was pretty tacky driving a BMW onto the field at halftime, but he did find ways to make money. Texas was not the financial juggernaut it is now when he arrived.
  21. Texas turned down the Pac 16 in June 2010. LHN deal was still expected to be Fox for about $3 million in October 2010. It was then that ESPN came up with their big LHN deal, thinking they could get Texas HS football. LHN was not a factor in the Pac 16 decision. Fox and ESPN promising to pay a lot more to the Big 12 in their next contract was.
  22. The whole, we'll figure it out as we go along in a year or two, is a real stir the pot. Its pretty destabilizing, much like their 2009-2010 open auditions that lead to Texas to come up with the Pac 16 idea.
  23. Kentucky draws about 15,000 more fans a game than Virginia. In fact they draw better than all but 5 ACC schools. And they would do a lot better W-L in the ACC. And UK has won less than 5 games only twice going back to 2005. UVA has done it 6 times since then. UK has a couple of 10 win seasons in that period, including last year. UVA has one 10 win season in their history, in 1989.
  24. Nah. There's at least 158. But Lincoln is not in the MTZ.
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