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I’m taking this a step further. You can’t win with a singular class very easily. It’s a pain to add and subtract, but here we go. The two year running total for Texas is 25 guys drafted. Take away Mukuba, Golden add back Crawford gets you to 24. For UW, you have 11. That is a significant disparity. Beyond that, I would offset Hill with Brailsford so participants would be a wash, sorta. OSU, Texas is tbd. We have Downs and Smith for OSU. Hill and Simmons for us. Obviously there will be many others drafted from the 2025 team.
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It’s the Ewers thread. Celebrating his successes and failures. You are correct. All very talented teams. There was considerable thrashing of the D versus UW. I mean on the message boards. The Ds job was significantly more difficult than the O. That UW team was unbalanced relative to the others. There is little support to say the UW defense had great talent.
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Traditional stats alone are not worth much. On the University of Texas top 10 single game passing lists for yards and TDs, Casey Thompson shows up as much or more than Quinn. Throwing to non-drafted WRs, a TE we kicked out, a younger Worthy. Are you willing to place them on the same level? Winning percentage? What’s our win percentage with and without Ewers the past 3 years? I think the one loss without him represents our highest offensive scoring output in a loss in that time. DFEI/OFEI are quantitative. Our defense is top 10 3 years running. Our offense is not. How does one allocate the defenses share of win percentage? I am largely arguing to argue. But y’all know derks and how that goes. I have no problem with him or y’all arguing with him. It adds to my entertainment dollar. So keep it up.
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I’m going to throw in a no one gives a shit about your Al Bundy perception of football. But it does impact my perspective. I played QB in the high school. Also started two ways the entirety of that time. Multiple sports. Successes. Failures. At all of it. My school is a bit unique. Small but mid-sized classification. A guy has started in the NFL, albeit briefly. There have been record setter, players of the year. You don’t just see the player, but you know a bit about their teammates, their families, their teammates families, etc. What you say is true. Here is what is also true. Those offensive players of the year, they had the best supporting casts, the best offensive system and obviously added their skill set. The guy that did the most beyond high school had a mediocre record from what I recall. The overall environment was conducive to success or less conducive to success if you will. The environment is incredibly important and more so to the QB than any other position. At the University of Texas it’s never been more conducive to team and QB success than the past two years. In both cases, there are and will be comparisons, but it’s far more complex as to how the final outcome is derived.
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It is not perfect, but from my understanding there is considerable time into defining all this. I do not personally know all those specifics as to what a self sack would include. If the Oline whiffs on a rusher, that is not a self sack. If the LT gets beat, it’s not against him self sack. If the QB holds it 5 seconds, then runs into a rushing then it’s probably a self sack. There may be an element of WRs are open, but there’s no throw. I don’t know. In the end, there is a grading system. If the QB throws it away to avoid a sack, that’s not against him. Just as a drop of a well throw ball is not. It is assigning responsibility to the appropriate parties.
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It is absolutely correct that we are all limited. That did not stop you from referencing Worthy or Jones as screwing up. It’s odd that Worthy has played with 4 different QBs yet only quit on one. And only quit on him for part of one season. Or that maybe Jones, a soccer player that had been in multiple offenses, right side and left side too, might have a miscommunication thus causing a late pickup. Yours, and pretty much everyone else’s, evaluation is subjective. So if you’re discussing TWP, that is subjective, but keep in mind those are evaluated against a standard to which all other QBs are evaluated. That’s a bit different than you and I never attempting to define what it it looks then arguing on this board. As for sacks, those are evaluated as to who is at fault. I actually looked this up the other day. Shedeur led the country in “self sacks.” 17 it was. Believe QE was tied for 2nd or 3rd at 14. There’s also data on sacks per time pressured. A sack is a sack but the pressure is subjective. I believe it was 2022 and 2024 in which QE did not compare favorably to others in sacks per pressure. Guys like a Michael Vick, Caleb Williams, Justin Fields will self sack. That’s probably two-fold - lack of decisiveness and attempting to make a play. That’s not QE, at least to their extreme. Anyone reading my posts can do so knowing that admittedly I’m not a big Ewers fan. Some of it off field, some of it on field, some of it media/fan induced. I do believe he’s better prepared for the NFL than quite a few other QBs. I do believe he’s has characteristics that could make it work at that level, maybe quite well. He is in a reasonably good spot to help him get there.
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https://www.texasfootball.com/records/?ref=subnav This is a link to Texas high school passing records. In basically every category, the player was from a 2000 season or later. Lukar from 1998 Stephenville was at the back end of a single season yardage list. Kirk Saul from 1986 was last on the list in single game yardage. That’s the stats element. If you take it to the NFL level for Texas high school bred QBs, that list from the 80s and 90s will pare in comparison to the past decade/20 years. Texas was late to the 7 on 7 party. Not sure when summer conditioning programs were allowed but that’s impactful. The offensive systems/coaching are massive changes. Any stats compiling discussion regarding QBs is only about a 20-25 year history.
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Looks like the Aggies passed up a chance at a quad 2 win. Or loss. I would hope if they borderline this works against them.
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What about old people? Cause they get drafted at about the same rate no matter which state they reside.
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Overall strong post with the belief the bolded part is underappreciated.
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Ewers was 97th in the country in adjusted completion percentage in 2024 in the intermediate range. Shough, Dart, Sanders and Ward were top 10. Gabriel 11th. Rourke and Howard were top 25. Milroe tied for 31st. Ewers was 16th in 2023. Ward, Dart and Beck were slightly higher. In 2022, Ewers was 108th in adjusted completion percentage. On the deep ball, he was 98th in 2022, 95th in 2023, and 47th in 2024. Throw a catchable ball is the first priority. There is nothing in the numbers to indicate he’s “very accurate” in that range. There’s certainly enough in the data to question whether he’s more accurate than those selected before him. There was one year in which it looked as though he could be something at it. The NFL has weighed in on the supporting cast to say these guys are playmakers and can get open.
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Vandy and Auburn are ahead of Pig in the RPI but trail Pig by 3 and 4 games in the conference, respectively. The conference season has comprised roughly half the total games. The conference schedule is heavily weighted as to how the team is playing now versus early season tourneys. The RPI has Uga has them ahead of teams they trail by 2 and 4 in the conference. UCF did fall behind other Big 12 teams but is still roughly 25 spots ahead of Houston in spite of a worse overall record and 4 games worse in the Big 12. BYU is ahead of Baylor with a worse record and trailing them by 3. Mizzou went 0-4 and dropped 3 spots. When I last looked at the KPI, it reflected better in my opinion. Conference records are more convoluted now with unbalanced schedules, but it’s a bit eye catching when conference records don’t align with RPI. Nevermind that Arkansas handled us far better than any other team. Hell, they beat us by more runs a game than some got in a series against us.
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I want this thread to outlive me. The ol Quinn kicked ass in Q1 versus Bama in ‘22 always gets me. Bama also had 10 points then struggled to get 10 more the remainder of the game. So he didn’t have to face defensive adjustments. And also, if in 2021, we could quit at halftime or end of Q1, we beat Top 10 - OU, OSU, and BU. And Casey might be all American. We also beat future Super Bowl QB Purdy. On the road, at night. Up to that point in the Sark tenure, we often came out strong against good competition but struggled to finish.
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How much time do high performers spend in a game thread? Damn baseball officials.
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Name me the youthful QB, or any QB, that has had multiple pick 6s/fumble TDs in the same game. It is not common. The Aggies and Kentucky still don’t win if you give them another defensive TD. Didn’t we have turnovers on our first posssessions versus OU and Vandy? I guess Arch could have given up scores on those turnovers. A TCU or OSU performance was not resulting in a loss. Are you telling me a 2nd year in college Ewers, who skipped his final year of hs then whatever you call his stint at OSU would have him on the same level as a 2nd year Arch, having not missed his sr year and playing in the same offense? That my friend is a reach. Nevermind that as a team we are better now than then. You cite MSU for Arch. An independent source graded that performance as one of the top performances all year that took into account whatever negative plays you think he made. ULM was his first start, right? Undoubtedly amped up. I believe those errors were early in the game and he settled into the game. You know Leavitt is just as young as Manning, right? Terrible pass to end but otherwise hung tough against a far more talented team. By the way I’ve not once said put Arch in as starter. I am pushing back on the notion that chances are good he loses a game or two.
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There needs to be some reconciliation here. First, every team needs their best players to carry a heavy load. Same as it always was. For every team. And really that’s why we’ve compiled the record we have is because it hasn’t been one guy. You are most likely overvaluing the depth of other teams. Arkansas seems to be struggling finding a first baseman. Looking at your 2024 Texas Aggies, they had 10 guys with 100 official ABs. The 11th guy had 61. He hit .213 with 1 HR. They had 11 pitchers log 20 innings with 3 of those with less than 25 innings. We have 8 guys with 20+ innings. That doesn’t include Saunier or Burns. That does not include Rerick or Navarre. Two guys that PG had rated higher than Dylan V. We have 8 guys with 100 ABs. The 9th is Belyeu. Few teams have a Jonah Williams. Go look at UFs stats last year. Jack C was a monster. Everybody else less so. Were they lacking depth? Talent? Both? To many here Mitchell Daly was expendable. Nevermind he hit 5th for a CWS team that won the same number of conference games as the eventual national champion. If they were so deep and talented, how’d he hit 5th? If these teams are so much more talented and deeper, why don’t they show it? If there’s talent buried on the roster, it’s likely a freshman who’s not quite ready. And no matter the perceived depth of the roster, the play time distribution is similar so they aren’t going deeper into their talent pool.
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Yeah, it’s probably all of the above. He likely had his most reps ever and hit that now or never mode too. Outside of OSU and UGa the opponents talent was not that great so it better allowed him to showcase his skills.
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