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you’re totally right, this year’s o line is better than the one from last year led by kelvin banks and unanimously hailed as a top 3 o line in college football, great argument.
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“can you guys stop doing this?” one guy came in here and posted “quinn ewers last year was better than arch is today” and then proceeded to clutter these pages full of lies about last year’s team’s talent level plus a bunch of tangential, straw man bullshit to further derail this thread. don’t say “you guys” or “y’all” when there is one specific person who insists on repeatedly bringing quinn ewers into this thread and then invariably following that up with 50 more totally asinine posts all designed to prop up quinn while denigrating everyone else who’s played at Texas in the last 3-4 years. the world according to ThatGuy: •all those all americans, award winners, and nfl draft picks:bad at football arch manning: worse than the qb who ranked 200th nationally and 13/14 in the sec last year according to PFF quinn ewers:
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we also went into last year with either our rb3 or rb4 having to be our rb1. we also have sark who loves to abandon the run early for a myriad of reasons. there were also game specific reasons for each of those performances, none of which have anything to do with the fact that the offensive talent from last year’s team was clearly, inarguably superior to that of this year’s team.
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and he does so with straw man arguments like, “well then how come we didn’t run the ball well in our hardest games?” when the actual discussion is whether nor not last year’s o line was better than this one. or he’ll call matthew golden an nfl flop as “evidence” that matthew golden wasn’t actually all that good in college, as if that isn’t the most disingenuous argument one can make. “charlie ward threw for zero TDs in the nfl, he was bad at football for florida state.” see how dishonest that is?
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first off, someone immediately did answer the question. second, it’s a strawman argument that has nothing to do with the actual discussion vis a vis the talent that quinn ewers had around him vs the talent on this year’s team. quinn had superior talent across the board the last two years vs what Arch is working with this year, and since you know you can’t argue against that fact you’re just creating new arguments about tangential shit instead of just being honest and moving on.
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quinn’s offensive teammates at Texas who were drafted: OL: Kelvin Banks, Christian Jones RB: Bijan Robinson, Jonathan Brooks, Roschon Johnson, Jaydon Blue, Keilan Robinson WR: Xavier Worthy, AD Mitchell, Matthew Golden, Jordan Whittington TE: JT Sanders, Gunnar Helm
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the talent from last year’s team >>> the talent from this year’s team. again, this is not debatable. i don’t know what we’re doing here. the OL featured the best lineman in football and was named one of the three best o lines in football; the wr group had a first round pick; the starting TE is now in the nfl. to argue that last year’s supporting cast was only negligibly better than this year’s is either dishonest or delusional, and could only be argued by a quinn ewers fanatic. oh yeah, we also arguably had the best defense in football each of the last two years, meaning quinn seriously didn’t have to do very much to get us the win vs basically anyone. just move the chains a little bit and score 6-7 points per quarter and we’re undefeated. we haven’t had that luxury this year. if we start adding the names of defensive players that quinn had who arch doesn’t then the talent gap gets even more comically evident. quinn did less with more; arch does more with less. coming into this thread to say that quinn was better than arch is was dumb.
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Holy shit you dipshits: 9-3 Texas is probably in the playoffs
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to be clear i don’t think anyone here has (recently) said that we would have done better last year if arch had been starting. what we (or at least i) have said is that Arch Manning already has his team as what we all agree is a playoff worthy team, warts and all. now imagine if he had the likes of kelvin banks and a joe moore nominated o line, xavier worthy, ad mitchell, jonathan brooks, gunnar helm, jt sanders, matthew golden, et al to work with. most people here hate our wr1; last night was our first 100 yard rushing game of the season; sark routinely abandons the run putting us in 3rd and long over and over again; and our online has been terrible - serviceable. what Arch has done with his supporting cast >>> what QE ever did with his supporting casts. i don’t see how that’s arguable. you can feel that i’m close minded for saying that, but i truly don’t see how anyone can argue otherwise.
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i don’t normally care for the opinions of pundits, but i’ve always liked and respected tim sherwood, so i like hearing him say these things.
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we’re literally back to back defending national champions if quinn ewers was capable of doing this.
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quinn was limited, erratic, inaccurate, and he held his offense back, two years in a row. arch is the best player on his offense and is making lemons out of lemonade, which is the opposite of what quinn did. we all agree that this team deserves to be in the playoff, and we all know that the talent surrounding the qb is wildly subpar compared to that of both of QE’s last two supporting casts. quinn kept his team from going further in the playoffs than they should have with his poor throws and self sacks, while arch has led his team to the doorstep of the playoff despite his teammates and coaches seemingly conspiring against him on a weekly basis. player vs player arch is better than quinn, and impact vs impact it’s arch >>> quinn. seriously, this can’t still be a debate. if we had that ^^^ the last two seasons we have another national title, maybe two.
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whenever our offense stalls out, it’s never like, “oh no, arch is missing wide open receivers a turtling in the pocket and taking too many sacks”, it’s like, “holy shit our o line sucks, our receivers can’t catch, and sark has no idea what he’s doing.” conversely, our offense this season doesn’t roll at all without arch playing a big part in that. it’s a stunning contrast to quinn ewers, who was surrounded by superior talent, who had a great o line in front of him, who constantly had a clean pocket to work with, yet who was erratic, and inaccurate, and who self-sacked like nobody i’ve ever seen. over the last two seasons, whenever our offense stalled out it was usually because quinn ewers was missing open receivers and creating sacks out of thin air. now we have a qb who has inferior talent all around him, who makes huge plays out of nothing, who has pocket presence like veteran pro, and who leads his team to scoring drives an wins. we are at the point where anyone who still thinks that it’s even a conversation between quinn and arch is truly beyond reason.
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