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We're learning that everyone takes home confidential materials. maybe on purpose, maybe inadvertently.  Jimmy Carter might have some top secret docs in his barn.

Is it really a surprise that our govt has done a poor job of tracking classified docs?

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Dark Branden should be ecstatic. This new Pence disclosure moves the focus somewhat from “possessing classified documents is baaaaad” to “what the fuck I guess they all have them, but you gotta turn them in when they tell you to and not hide them.”

Only one asshole did that.

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None of these folks give a shit about protocol when it comes to these documents. Someone was questioning me before when I said everyone in the upper levels of government has a cavalier attitude towards this shit. Clearly, none of them think rules apply to them.

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Muir: "Did you take any classified documents with you from the White House?"

Pence: "I did not."

Pence: "Well OK, there were those government files investigating how far a man's anus will stretch after he's had a couple of glasses of Skinnygirl California Rosé."

Pence: "Please dont tell Mother."

Pence: "Please?"

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8 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

We're learning that everyone takes home confidential materials. maybe on purpose, maybe inadvertently.  Jimmy Carter might have some top secret docs in his barn.

Is it really a surprise that our govt has done a poor job of tracking classified docs?

If there is one former President that I'm certain doesn't have classified documents that he's not supposed to have, it's Jimmy Carter

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15 hours ago, safe sex said:

If there is one former President that I'm certain doesn't have classified documents that he's not supposed to have, it's Jimmy Carter

Sad to say, even Carter found some shit but also returned them to the archives.

Former President Jimmy Carter found classified materials at his home in Plains, Georgia, on at least one occasion and returned them to the National Archives, according to the same person who spoke of regular occurrences of mishandled documents. The person did not provide details on the timing of the discovery.

This article from today by the Associated Press is a pretty good read on the whole topic:

https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-classified-documents-president-33df0355c72e9ae8fa4cb6ead13f6521

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52 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Sad to say, even Carter found some shit but also returned them to the archives.

Former President Jimmy Carter found classified materials at his home in Plains, Georgia, on at least one occasion and returned them to the National Archives, according to the same person who spoke of regular occurrences of mishandled documents. The person did not provide details on the timing of the discovery.

This article from today by the Associated Press is a pretty good read on the whole topic:

https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-classified-documents-president-33df0355c72e9ae8fa4cb6ead13f6521

Goddam Jimmy 😔

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58 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Sad to say, even Carter found some shit but also returned them to the archives.

Former President Jimmy Carter found classified materials at his home in Plains, Georgia, on at least one occasion and returned them to the National Archives, according to the same person who spoke of regular occurrences of mishandled documents. The person did not provide details on the timing of the discovery.

This article from today by the Associated Press is a pretty good read on the whole topic:

https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-classified-documents-president-33df0355c72e9ae8fa4cb6ead13f6521

plans/specs for nuclear powered propulsion systems or genetically modified super peanuts IMO. Maybe both

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I'll repeat something I wrote when they found Biden had secret docs. 

With Biden and now Pence, we've discovered that secret documents are not being effectively tracked. There seems to be an obvious issue to discuss. 

No, it's not that the Biden issue is both sides for Trump's criminal behavior.

No, it's not that Pence positively (and for political show) declared he didn't have them, and it turned out he did.

No, to me anyway, it's not about tearing apart Pence and Biden and their associates so we can hold some horrible motherfucker accountable.

All of that stuff is click bait and tiresome CNN panel discussion fodder. 

We have an absurdly porous system for national secrets when it comes to processing these docs for executive office holders and those same persons when they exit office. I was pleased to hear someone babbling on TV yesterday say this was an oversight matter for Congress rather than investigative (or something like that). Exactly.

On leaving office, there needs to be a thorough process for reviewing all documents that leave offices and official residences. Nothing leaves that has not been review. Taking anything that has not passed review should be a heavy felony. No more papers getting mixed up.

Like the Secret Service, we need to tear down and rethink a lot of shit related to the president and vice-president's offices.

And, of course, we need to jail Trump.

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41 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

How are they finding these things? Someone shows up and searched the house? Seems very strange.

After shit went down with Trump refusing to return the documents he took, Biden and Pence sent lawyers to double check their own files, boxes in garages, and what-have-you. Those attorneys are then reporting them to proper authorities as they come across them. That's my understanding.

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6 minutes ago, bolverk said:

After shit went down with Trump refusing to return the documents he took, Biden and Pence sent lawyers to double check their own files, boxes in garages, and what-have-you. Those attorneys are then reporting them to proper authorities as they come across them. That's my understanding.

"so same-same, got it." - MAGA

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15 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

How are they finding these things? Someone shows up and searched the house? Seems very strange.

The reporting I heard was that the initial set of documents found in Biden’s old office at the Penn Biden Center were discovered by aides who were moving things out of the office since it wasn’t being used anymore. They were in a box in a closet and were discovered more or less by accident. The staffers called the lawyers who called the National Archives and the documents were returned the next day. That prompted the lawyers to search Biden’s home and they found some more classified documents locked up in his garage. Then the FBI came and searched that location and I believe one other but didn’t find anything more. I’m pretty sure that’s what prompted Pence’s lawyers to search his place too just to be safe.

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