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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]


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56 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yet you want people in Alabama and Tennessee deciding what's best for people in California.....that makes sense.  

In Trumpland, there are only geese, no ganders.

No.  I want people in Texas to decide for Texas.  If the other 49 states decide differently, I have no problem with that.  

 

 

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Just now, Hmbre97 said:

KLBJ-AM is quality radio this morning. They're mainly taking calls and the melt is glorious. Trumpers are being aggy AF this morning.

Had a listen to KLBJ on the way into work this AM (NPR was off on some tangent about Mirnamar elections or something so I switched for the lulz)

.and let me tell you those people are....spacer.png

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2 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

KLBJ-AM is quality radio this morning. They're mainly taking calls and the melt is glorious. Trumpers are being aggy AF this morning.

I would imagine the calls are similar to the whining online of "but I've seen Trump's rallies, I've seen the cars with flags, the boat fleet, the people marching through Beverly HIlls (lolz, thanks TTom), how is he losing"? Of course, don't take a look at the fact Biden has the most votes of any candidate in history. Now, you really think people in states that Trump won prior might just have voted against him given more people voted in those states than ever before?

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10 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I know, but I'm also a lawyer, and words matter. It grinds me every time he says "new votes coming in." That's not an accurate phrase. 

Those votes are new to the set of counted votes.  It's clear what he means.

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Just now, landman said:

No.  I want people in Texas to decide for Texas.  If the other 49 states decide differently, I have no problem with that.  

 

 

Your logic makes zero sense when the election is for the one person who represents us all.

California doesn't decide your Senators or Representatives. But they absolutely help decide the President, and that's by design. In the current Electoral College setup they still help decide the President.

Your post was dumb and you should feel bad. 

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At some point, the elephant of religion/theocracy overtaking the separation of church and state in the Republican party is going to have to be addressed, and again, add that to the list that I don't see how it happens without some kind of war or uprising. So many of those motherfuckers just achingly want a theocracy. And yet somehow the faux constitutionalists seem to forget that important tenet of the founding fathers.  

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1 minute ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I swear to fucking god if any of you former republicans that voted for Biden fall for this shit you should be ashamed. 

I don’t believe a word of it and haven’t since W exploded the budget, and not just with war. 
the answer to debt and deficit is government efficiency, so there’s no answer to debt and deficit.  
the only things the republicans really care about anymore are the religious things, the rest is just a thin veneer for religious and racist people to hide behind if they wish.  The debt!  Socialism!  
anyone who is legitimately worried about the debt would be ok with a tax increase, especially at the corporate and high income levels. 

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1 hour ago, 27-25 said:

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but if this were the case now would we ushering in the next 4 years of DOTARD?  If only D states do it that just gives the Rs extra votes in the EC.

It would put them at a disadvantage until all states do it, yes.  But I would count on the Democratic party to "do the right thing" long before the GOP, especially when it comes to electoral politics.

Wish in one hand, shit in the other, I know . . .  I know.

 

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Just now, Huckleberry said:

Your logic makes zero sense when the election is for the one person who represents us all.

California doesn't decide your Senators or Representatives. But they absolutely help decide the President, and that's by design. In the current Electoral College setup they still help decide the President.

Your post was dumb and you should feel bad. 

I'm fine with the electoral college system.  This was in response to posts about doing away with the electoral college and going to the popular vote.  

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I don’t believe a word of it and haven’t since W exploded the budget, and not just with war. 
the answer to debt and deficit is government efficiency, so there’s no answer to debt and deficit.  
the only things the republicans really care about anymore are the religious things, the rest is just a thin veneer for religious and racist people to hide behind if they wish.  The debt!  Socialism!  
anyone who is legitimately worried about the debt would be ok with a tax increase, especially at the corporate and high income levels. 

No Republican voter today is actually worried about the debt.  They're worried that their paychecks and retirement accounts, and worry that they'll actually have to pay taxes on them.  You left out the biggest issue that the 1% Republicans (and there are A LOT of them) worry about - low taxes.  No corporate taxes.  Grifting the system.  Etc.  

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1 minute ago, landman said:

I'm fine with the electoral college system.  This was in response to posts about doing away with the electoral college and going to the popular vote.  

So you're not fine with California telling you how to live your life but okay with Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and the Rust Belt telling you how to live your life.

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2 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

That people that do this kind of shit look idiotic and it's not limited to one political party?

Have you ever thought about mixing in some contrasting with your comparisons? Like, human minds can compare and contrast. We all learn that in school. You must have some rudimentary ability to consider all the ways in which those two images are different, despite some similarities on the surface.

Oh, who am I kidding. You compare when suits you, and you contrast when it suits you, and you never do either when it doesn't.

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13 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The real, practical solution is to move the states to proportional electoral votes.  

Every state that is D controlled should do it now.

Unless red states do the same, they'd only be shooting themselves in the foot.  The current EC structure is the only way a Republican is going to get elected President.  They need the winner take all structure for red states they aren't going to give that up.

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

At some point, the elephant of religion/theocracy overtaking the separation of church and state in the Republican party is going to have to be addressed, and again, add that to the list that I don't see how it happens without some kind of war or uprising. So many of those motherfuckers just achingly want a theocracy. And yet somehow the faux constitutionalists seem to forget that important tenet of the founding fathers.  

The party needs to split. But they won’t because I suspect neither faction could win elections at a national level. 
the religious right needs to be its own thing, and the old school republicans need to be their own thing. 
If that happened, maybe others would be empowered to vote green or libertarian and we’d have some interesting things going on.

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8 minutes ago, landman said:

No.  I want people in Texas to decide for Texas.  If the other 49 states decide differently, I have no problem with that.  

 

 

Cool, so you want two presidents?  One for the MAJORITY of the people (the majority of Americans who voted for POTUS in the last two elections voted for the Democratic candidate), and one for the majority of electoral votes?  Or is it one for some states, and one for others?

Why is it that you do NOT want voters in one state dictating who is president over another state, yet you ALSO want.....the exact same thing you say you DON'T want?  

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20 minutes ago, elfenix said:

conservatism is 100% factless rage and fear.  ANTIFA IS GOING TO MARCH INTO YOUR CULDESAC AND FORCE YOU TO GET GAY MARRIED TO YOUR NEIGHBOR!!!!!

With the softball lady on one side of me, or the two nice dudes on the other?

Either way, I can sneak back home and have good food and cheaty sex with my straight ex-wife.

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1 minute ago, BradInATX said:

Obviously I don't subscribe to the Harris takeover theory because I'm not an insane person but this still made me laugh

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Due to the violent rhetoric in politics these days it seems to me that VP selection is mainly finding someone who your base supports but also who scares the shit out of the other side as assassination insurance. 

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This election has completely reinforced my hatred of cable news. Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, all of them. Every single network out there knows that this thing is over and should be called, but they're trying to squeeze every dollar out of this race. The longer it drags on the more room you're giving Trump to grandstand. I don't care which way each particular network or commentator leans, they are all ghouls. Money over doing the right thing always. Just call the fucking thing, you greedy fucks.

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1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Uh, the electoral college is the system that installed Trump in the first place and caused catastrophic damage.  Seems like a major oversight on your part. 

No.  That's how the system has worked for over 250 years.  Trump being elected in 2016 falls as much on the Dems as anyone else.  Alot of people did not like Clinton and were attracted by the potential for something new.  Support the EC for what it is, and do not cry about the outcome like cheeto did last night.  The EC did not cause the rift in this country.  Limp-dicked Republicans in power and race-baiting MAGA's did.

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