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8 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Trump allies are discussing the possibility of challenging the Justice Department’s motion to unseal the Mar-a-Lago search warrant. They have contacted outside lawyers about helping them, according to a person briefed on the discussions.

Obviously they have to contact outside lawyers as their own lawyers are like 3 women with DDs pulled from some $17/hr doc review job

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34 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The GQP and Fox news are a terrorist organization.  Take any of their messages, and sub in "the infidels" for "FBI," and they are exactly the kind of terrorist organization that we've been drone-striking for the past 20 years.

They dress the part, too.

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3 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

"FBI searched Trump’s home to look for nuclear documents and other items, sources say"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/11/garland-trump-mar-a-lago/

 

Of course Trump is selling the nuclear information

Republican will pivot 

So what he stole the nuclear codes, you don’t have evidence he intended to use it.

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18 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Is that the same Lenny Dykstra that lost all his teeth likely due to drug abuse but claims he got them pulled so he could provide better cunnilingus?  That Lenny Dykstra?  The piece of shit Met?  Who the fuck would listen to that guy?

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2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

You know what, if it is true, this might the one the few things trump fans could actually understand. If that dickhead sold nuclear secrets, he won't need to be disqualified from running again. He's done that on his own

40% will still back him.

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1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

In all of this i wonder why Pence is still carrying trumps water. They must have some severe kompromat on him

Probably not. I think he's simply a spineless pussy. The vast majority of these halfwits will come really close to accidently ushering in an authoritarian regime because they were to cowardly to stop engaging in rhetoric they know is absurd. Fox News will be apologetic one day too late after some large scale violence. I can't help but feel that's imminent. 

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43 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

not at all.  the opposite of pointless.  now the magatsphere that was up in arms and throwing their own shit anywhere they could, can now point to their dotard and ask him why is he fighting the release of the warrant?  if that turns out to be the case.... OR.... why doesn't he just share the warrant... that they were so vehemently shitting about, now that garland has started the motion to unseal it?

okay then

 

Yeah, those of you attacking Garland all the time underestimate his resolve, and cunning.

I said several weeks or months ago, those kind of guys are quiet assassins.

This was 100% by the book, no grandstanding, and Merrick fucking Garland has now actually turned Trump's firehose of bullshit against him.

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15 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

They dress the part, too.

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They even have an icon.

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I don’t want anyone to be cut down in a hail of gunfire, but I can’t decide if it would be more interesting for Kyle Rittenhouse or Dilbert Guy to go all “let’s take that hill!”

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5 hours ago, Tuco said:


Top secret is the highest legal classification. There may be subclassifications that make up top secret. But there are no secret legal classifications. You can’t prosecute trump on some super- secret classification. Laws are public.

well, dammit.  the guy on cnn who was on the senate intelligence committee just confirmed that there are classifications above top secret.

i repped you tuco.  i really tried.

who knew?

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1 hour ago, F250 said:

I believe all agents require a TS/SCI. It should also be noted that this clearance level isn't that difficult to achieve. There are probably more civilians in the Defense/Intelligence Contractor industry with these clearances than there are FBI Special agents.

this.  there is a whole world (yes, very deep...) inside the government that 99.9999% of americans have no idea exists.

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This is from WaPo's article about trump supposedly having highly classified info about nuclear weapons. The Post doesn't seem to have much right now. That they recovered info classified at the highest levels of gov't secrecy was already discussed. We'll see if the Post or other news orgs flesh out additional details.

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The people who described some of the material that agents were seeking spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation. Nor did they say if such documents were recovered as part of the search. A Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment.

 

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11 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Paywall

Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday, according to people familiar with the investigation.

Experts in classified information said the unusual search underscores deep concern among government officials about the types of information they thought could be located at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and potentially in danger of falling into the wrong hands.

The people who described some of the material that agents were seeking spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation. Nor did they say if such documents were recovered as part of the search. A Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment.

Attorney General Merrick Garland said he could not discuss the investigation on Thursday. But in an unusual public statement at the Justice Department, he announced he had personally authorized the decision to seek court permission for a search warrant.

Garland spoke moments after Justice Department lawyers filed a motion seeking to unseal the search warrant in the case, noting that Trump had publicly revealed the search shortly after it happened.

“The public’s clear and powerful interest in understanding what occurred under these circumstances weighs heavily in favor of unsealing,” the motion says. “That said, the former President should have an opportunity to respond to this Motion and lodge objections, including with regards to any ‘legitimate privacy interests’ or the potential for other ‘injury’ if these materials are made public.”

Material about nuclear weapons is especially sensitive and usually restricted to a small number of government officials, experts said. Publicizing details about U.S. weapons could provide an intelligence road map to adversaries seeking to build ways of countering those systems. And other countries might view exposing their nuclear secrets as a threat, experts said.

One former Justice Department official, who in the past oversaw investigations of leaks of classified information, said the type of top-secret information described by the people familiar with the probe would probably cause authorities to try to move as quickly as possible to recover sensitive documents that could cause grave harm to U.S. security.

“If that is true, it would suggest that material residing unlawfully at Mar-a-Lago may have been classified at the highest classification level,” said David Laufman, the former chief of the Justice Department’s counterintelligence section, which investigates leaks of classified information. “If the FBI and the Department of Justice believed there were top secret materials still at Mar-a-Lago, that would lend itself to greater ‘hair-on-fire’ motivation to recover that material as quickly as possible.”

The Monday search of Trump’s home by FBI agents has caused a political furor, with Trump and many of his Republican defenders accusing the FBI of acting out of politically motivated malice. Some have threatened the agency on social media.

As Garland spoke Thursday, police in Ohio were engaged in a standoff with an armed man who allegedly tried to storm the Cincinnati office of the FBI. The man was killed by police later that day; authorities said negotiations had failed.

State and federal officials declined to name the man or describe a potential motive. However, a law enforcement official identified him as Ricky Shiffer.

According to another law enforcement official, agents are investigating Shiffer’s possible ties to extremist groups, including the Proud Boys, whose leaders are accused of helping launch the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. Both officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.

person using Shiffer’s name on TruthSocial, Trump’s social media site, posted a “call to arms” message shortly after Monday’s FBI search became public.

“People, this is it,” the message said. “Leave work tomorrow as soon as the gun shop/Army-Navy store/pawn shop opens, get whatever you need to be ready for combat. We must not tolerate this one. They have been conditioning us to accept tyranny and think we can’t do anything for 2 years. This time we must respond with force.”

The Washington Post could not confirm whether the account actually belonged to Shiffer.

In his statement on Thursday, Garland defended FBI agents as “dedicated, patriotic public servants” and said he would not “stand by silently when their integrity is unfairly attacked … Every day they protect the American people from violent crime, terrorism and other threats to their safety while safeguarding our civil rights. They do so at great personal sacrifice and risk to themselves. I am honored to work alongside them.

It was Garland’s first public appearance or comment since agents executed the warrant at Mar-a-Lago Club, taking about a dozen boxes of material after opening a safe and entering a padlocked storage area. The search was one of the most dramatic developments in a cascade of legal investigations of the former president, several of which appear to be growing in intensity.

The investigation into the improper handling of documents began months ago, when the National Archives and Records Administration sought the return of material taken to Mar-a-Lago from the White House. Fifteen boxes of documents and items, some of them marked classified, were returned early this year. The archives subsequently asked the Justice Department to investigate.

Former senior intelligence officials said in interviews that during the Trump administration, highly classified intelligence about sensitive topics, including about intelligence-gathering on Iran, was routinely mishandled. One former official said the most highly classified information often ended up in the hands of personnel who didn’t appear to have a need to possesses it or weren’t authorized to read it.

That former official also said signals intelligence — intercepted electronic communications like emails and phone calls of foreign leaders — was among the type of information that often ended up with unauthorized personnel. Such intercepts are among the most closely guarded secrets because of what they can reveal about how the United States has penetrated foreign governments.

A person familiar with the inventory of 15 boxes taken from Mar-a-Lago in January indicated that signals intelligence material was included in them. The precise nature of the information was unclear.

The former officials and the other individual spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence matters.

This spring, Trump’s team received a grand jury subpoena in connection with the documents investigations, two people familiar with the investigation, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss details, confirmed to The Post on Thursday. Investigators visited Mar-a-Lago in the weeks following the issuance of the subpoena, and Trump’s team handed over some materials. The subpoena was first reported by Just the News, a conservative media outlet run by John Solomon, one of Trump’s recently designated representatives to the National Archives.

People familiar with the probe have said it is focused on whether the former president or his aides withheld classified or other government material that should have been returned to government custody earlier. The people, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the investigation, said that as authorities engaged in months of discussions on the subject, some officials came to suspect the Trump team was not being truthful.

Pressure had been building for Garland to say something so that the public understands why the Justice Department — and a federal magistrate judge — believed the extraordinary step of executing a search warrant at the home of a former president was necessary. But Garland has stuck with his practice of not discussing ongoing investigations.

“Upholding the rule of law means applying the law evenly without fear or favor,” Garland said Thursday. “Under my watch, that is precisely what the Justice Department is doing.”

Trump and his allies have refused to publicly share a copy of the warrant, even as they and their supporters have denounced the search as unlawful and politically motivated but provided no evidence to back that up.

Lawyers for the former president can respond to the government’s filing with any objections to unsealing the warrant, leaving it to the judge overseeing the case to decide. He also could publicly release the warrant himself.

The judge ordered the Justice Department to confer with lawyers for Trump and alert the court by 3 p.m. Friday as to whether Trump objects to the unsealing.

After Garland’s appearance, Trump took to his own social media network to again decry the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago. But he made no indication of whether he would lodge an objection to the government’s filing.

If made public, the warrant would probably reveal a general description of what material agents were seeking at Mar-a-Lago and what crimes they could be connected to. A list of the inventory that agents took from the property would also be released. Details could be limited, however, particularly if the material collected includes classified documents.

How agents get warrants like the one at Mar-a-Lago, and what they mean

In addition to the anti-law enforcement threats and vitriol on social media sites and elsewhere this week, the furor over the search warrant has led to threats against the judge who approved the warrant request.

The Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association — the professional association representing 31,000 federal law enforcement officers and agents — said in a statement Wednesday evening that its agents had received “extreme threats of violence” this week.

“All law enforcement understand their work makes them a target for criminal actors,” wrote the group’s president, Larry Cosme. “However, the politically motivated threats of violence against the FBI this week are unprecedented in recent history and absolutely unacceptable.”

Republicans around Trump initially thought the raid could help him politically, but they are now bracing for revelations that could be damaging, a person familiar with the matter said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

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This could very well be trump's camp leaking bullshit to get ahead of the curve and make whatever was actually recovered from the search appear to be no big deal in comparison.

Just a few weeks ago the Post and NYT reporters were dutifully blasting out statements by their Secret Service contacts that Cassidy Hutchinson was just a crazy, low-level errand girl who made stuff up, and that the Secret Service would go straight to the Capitol and disprove her testimony that trump angrily lashed out and accosted his driver, and insisted that he be taken to the Capitol on J6. The spin from the trump side became the story for at least two days and of course there was no contradiction of Cassidy's testimony.

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2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

If the Saudis will pay a 2 handicap golfer 100M what do you think they'd pay fatfuck for some nuclear secrets?  Hmmm

Would be great if it was discovered that he was taking in billions from Russia and saud for secrets while not paying his own lawyers, making the rnc pay legal bills, and always begging for his rube followers’ next nickel. 

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7 minutes ago, Chopper said:

This could very well be trump's camp leaking bullshit to get ahead of the curve and make whatever was actually recovered from the search appear to be no big deal in comparison.

Just a few weeks ago the Post and NYT reporters were dutifully blasting out statements by their Secret Service contacts that Cassidy Hutchinson was just a crazy, low-level errand girl who made stuff up, and that the Secret Service would go straight to the Capitol and disprove her testimony that trump angrily lashed out and accosted his driver, and insisted that he be taken to the Capitol on J6. The spin from the trump side became the story for at least two days and of course there was no contradiction of Cassidy's testimony.

It could be, but Shane Harris is a legit reporter, not one of the many access whores who will mindlessly repeat whatever someone tells him.

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6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Would be great if it was discovered that he was taking in billions from Russia and saud for secrets while not paying his own lawyers, making the rnc pay legal bills, and always begging for his rube followers’ next nickel. 

Discovered?  Hell, it's assumed, at least among the non-MAGA folk.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Would be great if it was discovered that he was taking in billions from Russia and saud for secrets while not paying his own lawyers, making the rnc pay legal bills, and always begging for his rube followers’ next nickel. 

My money is on grifting his fat ass off to keep paying the soviets to keep all that kompromat top secret.  In the end he doesn't really have jack shit.  Loser

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