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11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

If you don't have a relative, particularly a parent/grand-parent or spouse, it can be difficult - they do not want outsiders to come in and freeload.

Or if you own your own business or work in an industry that is understaffed by Canadians.  I actually looked into Canadian citizenship and it was not feasible for me.  You definitely can't just go there and retire.  

Also, Vancouver is not cold in the winter, but it is cloudy all the time and housing is SF-level expensive.  I had actually settled on Kamloops or Kelowna.

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3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

But it doesn't matter.  Brisket out front should have told ya.

She could shoot someone on the Main Street of some humble small Georgia town in her congressional district, and it wouldn't matter.

 

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WALKER COUNTY, Ga. — Walker County's live-streamed commission meeting came to an unusual end Thursday night.

During the public comment portion of the meeting, a man named Ray C. Burnfin with the alias 'The Lone Ranger' came up to speak.

He began by talking in favor of the Confederate flag and said it was not a hate symbol. It appeared he has a patch of the flag on his jacket.

He then condoned the use of racial slurs and commented on race relations.

The masked man then said there was nothing wrong with the "N-word," and proceeded to say it out loud.

"There is nothing wrong with it...we’re colored too. It's alright to use if you don’t turn a sharp -'er,'" he said.

 

Burnfin also said there was no such thing as white supremacy or black supremacy.

"I have been asked to speak for the issues of Walker County, but that is the beginning of the issues that goes on in America today," he said. "I have been asked to speak about this [Confederate] flag that flies over our battle field."

The commissioners do not reprimand him, or cancel his allotted time. He was the final speaker and none of the commissioners commented on his statements immediately afterward.

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6 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I believe that you are correct.  You can't even travel there with a misdemeanor beyond traffic tickets.

They've been getting much more strict about things, although a few of the crossing points are a little more lax than others.  There's an entire reality TV series about how many people they turn away for minor stuff, on Netflix I think.

I had a friend a few years ago travel to Europe for a few weeks on business, and he was talking about how easy it was to get around, and was saying that it'd be great if we could have open borders with Canada, but that "we'd have to trust them to keep the terrorists out" and it was then that I knew he had not been to Canada in many years.  If anything, Canada would turn us down on the idea of open borders.

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2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Or if you own your own business or work in an industry that is understaffed by Canadians.  I actually looked into Canadian citizenship and it was not feasible for me.  You definitely can't just go there and retire.  

Even for those who have parents/grandparents who were from Canada, you can apply and get dual citizenship, but you can't just pop up there and retire/live.  They want bank records, will do background checks, etc.

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6 hours ago, smuggs said:

She's more like that straggler potato that gets lost at the bottom of the potato basket, perhaps hidden by some onions. And then one day when you really need a potato you are excited to find it, but you dig it out and quickly realize that it is velvety with several flaccid shoots growing out of it.

 

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She's more like that straggler potato that gets lost at the bottom of the potato basket, perhaps hidden by some onions. And then one day when you really need a potato you are excited to find it, but you dig it out and quickly realize that it is velvety with several flaccid shoots growing out of it.
 
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That checks out if you remember Trump moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem which was all part of the Mossad long game in '63.  

Unbelievable.  This woman doesn't have a bank account but she has access to national security briefings.  What the Fuck is going on?  

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2 minutes ago, Lobo said:

That checks out if you remember Trump moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem which was all part of the Mossad long game in '63.  

Unbelievable.  This woman doesn't have a bank account but she has access to national security briefings.  What the Fuck is going on?  

Why does she not have a bank account?

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8 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

MTG on a tweet storm this morning.  as i saw somebody post on Twitter, she may feel that the walls are closing in and she's bunkering down.

this is the sign of a stable human.

Disagree. She is auditioning for dollars from the America First Policies group (or others like them). They use dark money to fund campaigns. Notice the crux of her tweets. It's the same group that Pompeo has been touting, and some of the others. They're going further down the nationalist, isolationist, supremacist path they had already begun.

Notice how she says thank you. She is fundraising, not scared.

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3 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Disagree. She is auditioning for dollars from the America First Policies group (or others like them). They use dark money to fund campaigns. Notice the crux of her tweets. It's the same group that Pompeo has been touting, and some of the others. They're going further down the nationalist, isolationist, supremacist path they had already begun.

Notice how she says thank you. She is fundraising, not scared.

yeah, you're probably right.  wishful thinking on my part.  who am i kidding.  she is safe.  nothing will happen to her.  she'll suffer no consequences.

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3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Canada is a good reality check for a lot of shibboleths on both the left and right. Border control/“humane immigration” policies on the left and universal health care on the right. 

Canada has no wall. Plenty of visa overstays and undocumented people there. They do remove them when discovered, but don't have a policy of using a gestapo to round them up. And when they do arrest them, they dont separate families and they treat them humanely. This is largely what the left wants. No wake up call needed. 

Also, plenty, if not most, legal immigrants to Canada had some desire to migrate to the USA but weren't eligible or lacked the ability to cut through the red tape. So their legal immigration system is also better structured than ours. 

Most of our problems are cultural.  Our culture is fucked up. We celebrate punishment of others for their mistakes whether intentional or unintentional. Prisoners deserve to get raped by other prisoners. Unlawful immigrants deserve to be in cages. Poor people deserve to die without healthcare.  We could have the Running Man gameshow and it would get double the ratings of the super bowl. 

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2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

And some people are saying that Marjorie Taylor Green's CrossFit gym had pedophiles using it.

Not just some people, a lot of people.  And a lot of those people are saying that the people who cleaned her gym after closing were immigrants from Mexico.  

I dunno, just what a lot of people are saying.  

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3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

she's a democrat, duh

Probably bringing the articles of impeachment.

 

which doesn’t really jibe with the whole “I’m just doing what the constitution allows” argument for objecting to election ratification, but politicians don’t know the word hypocrisy except to accuse the other side of it. 

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On 1/28/2021 at 4:14 PM, TexasEd said:

I don't know if I go that far, but paint the whole Republican party as crazy as the craziest one out there.  The Democrats have been doing that to themselves for a while with some of the far left or incompetent congress people in that party so turn it around and start branding the "idiot right" or "radical right" or whatever but get on the same page with the same talking points and roll Boebert, MTG, Cruz, Hawley, Cotton, Gaetz, et al all up in that group.

The centrist Dems have been turning their noses up at this low hanging fruit for decades now, and it's the leftists who are crazy or stupid? 

I've about come to the point where I believe the Democrats don't really like to win elections. They've been slamming their heads against the same brick walls for my entire life and I am getting old now. If it runs like a Washington General and keeps losing like a Washington General for decades and decades, then your party is the Washington Generals. 

And if you don't know who the Washington Generals are, get off my lawn. 

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5 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

I've about come to the point where I believe the Democrats don't really like to win elections. They've been slamming their heads against the same brick walls for my entire life and I am getting old now. If it runs like a Washington General and keeps losing like a Washington General for decades and decades, then your party is the Washington Generals. 

Uh . . . at the end of the Biden/Harris term in 2024, Republicans and Democrats will have occupied the same amount of time in the Oval Office for 48 years.  How old are you?

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4 hours ago, FondrenRoad said:

Canada has no wall. Plenty of visa overstays and undocumented people there. They do remove them when discovered, but don't have a policy of using a gestapo to round them up. And when they do arrest them, they dont separate families and they treat them humanely. This is largely what the left wants. No wake up call needed. 

Also, plenty, if not most, legal immigrants to Canada had some desire to migrate to the USA but weren't eligible or lacked the ability to cut through the red tape. So their legal immigration system is also better structured than ours. 

Most of our problems are cultural.  Our culture is fucked up. We celebrate punishment of others for their mistakes whether intentional or unintentional. Prisoners deserve to get raped by other prisoners. Unlawful immigrants deserve to be in cages. Poor people deserve to die without healthcare.  We could have the Running Man gameshow and it would get double the ratings of the super bowl. 

Canada’s borders are the Atlantic, Pacific, United States, and North Pole.  They have among the tightest visitor visa regimes in the world. Yes, they have overstays and undocumented immigrants.They also have a fraction of the issues accompanyimg irregular entry that we do and it’s absolutely disingenuous to pretend say otherwise.

If I hypothetically sponsored a bill to replicate Canada’s legal immigration system (biased to bringing immigrants who will bring economic benefits, less benefits for family members, ineligible to sponsor if you received social assistance recently)— I 100 percent guarantee the most vigorous opponents would be on the left of our political spectrum.  
 

I am not arguing that Canada’s system is bad, far from it. Just being honest about the fact that it does not dovetail with what American progressive activists want to see here.

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Interesting fear coming from Jonah Goldberg on the rise of anti-semitism in the crazed GOP and danger for self-described conservatives.   (Note - Jonah bears some the blame for his sophomoric "Liberal Fascists" canard, among other things including his neoconservative foreign policy views. But - it is an interesting read on the split in the right). 

TLDR: Republicans have always been the "stupid party" (his words, not mine) - but this iteration of stupidity is dangerous.

Spoiler

The Running With Scissors Party

A good conservatism is a boring conservatism. That’s not what we have right now.

Dear Reader (Including those of you who got in early on the dogecoin craze),

Why aren’t Jews a lot richer?

That’s what I would wonder if I were one of these people convinced that the Joooooooz run everything.

A couple years ago we had this headline in the Washington Post:

“D.C. lawmaker says recent snowfall caused by ‘Rothschilds controlling the climate” 

In a Facebook video DC councilman Trayon White, declared, “Man, it just started snowing out of nowhere this morning, man. Y’all better pay attention to this climate control, man, this climate manipulation….And D.C. keep talking about, ‘We a resilient city.’ And that’s a model based off the Rothschilds controlling the climate to create natural disasters they can pay for to own the cities, man. Be careful.”

Then, of course, there’s Marjorie Taylor Greene, the newly minted Georgia congresswoman who, admittedly, is more than a few fries shy of a Happy Meal. In a 2018 Facebook post she floated the theory that a space-based laser owned by PG&E started the wildfires plaguing California at the time. A close textual analysis of the post suggests she doesn’t explicitly claim that the Jews were responsible. Just that they might have been investors or something, given that the vice chairman of PG&E’s board was Roger Kimmel of “Rothschild Inc, international investment banking firm.”

That’s just like those crafty Hebrews. They don’t want to do the real manly work required to make orbital death rays, but they’ll be happy to skim the profits to pay for their genetically modified ferret-gibbon hybrids and their homemade seltzer machines.

Which brings me back to my question: Why aren’t the Jews richer? Seriously? If the Jews can control the weather, destroy cities, shoot lasers from outer space—never mind make a nice sandwich, a nice sandwich—what exactly can’t they do? For starters, why is Israel still half desert? If you can make it rain benjamins by controlling the weather, presumably you can make it rain, well, rain on Israel.

Maybe it’s not the Jews, just some Jews, as Louis Farrakhan likes to say. After all, most of these theories single out the Rothschilds. And while that name has always been a handy shorthand for Jews qua Jews, it’s not outlandish to believe that these people really think it’s just one Jewish family raking the sky for filthy lucre. 

The thing is, I know a Rothschild. Nice guy. Smart guy. A few weeks ago, he offered to dog sit for me when I went on vacation. I don’t think he’d take offense if I said Dan doesn’t dress like he runs the world, unless faded brown corduroy sports jackets are the secret uniform of the bagel-snarfing cabal of international Jewry running the planet. (Had I known he lived in a palatial mansion, I might have taken him up on the dog-sitting, though I think Zoë wouldn’t get along with the ferret-gibbon hybrids.)

The two stupid parties.

John Stuart Mill famously called conservatives “the stupid party.” When John Pakington took offense, Mill clarified what he meant. “I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid,” Mill explained. “I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative.” About a century later, Irving Kristol entered the debate. He argued that “such a judgment need not be invidious or censorious. Conservative ‘stupidity,’ properly understood, is intimately connected with sentiments that are at the root of conservative virtues—e.g., a dogged loyalty to a traditional way of life, an instinctive aversion to innovation based on mere theoretical speculation, a sense of having a fiduciary relation to the whole nation, past, present and future.” He continued:

There is always a kind of immunity to fashionable political ideas which is associated with conservatism, and a country that does not have a goodly portion of it is incapable of stable and orderly government. No political or social system can endure without engendering, in a perfectly organic way, this kind of conservative "stupidity." It is the antibody of the body politic.

If stupidity is defined this way, I am happy to be part of the stupid party. I like the stupidity of “don’t just do something, sit there.” I like the stupidity of Calvin Coolidge, who said, "When you see 10 troubles rolling down the road, if you don't do anything, nine of them will roll into the ditch before they get to you." I like the stupidity of Abraham Lincoln, who said, “What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried?”

This conservatism is inherently skeptical of new ideas, not because it is opposed to new ideas, but because as a simple matter of math, most new ideas are bad ideas. Every child is a new idea-spewing machine, and most of those ideas are going to be garbage. As a small child, I thought I could take a piece of heating coal I found on the street, put it on the stove, and then press down really hard on it with a fork to turn it into a diamond. That would’ve been a great idea if it worked. But most new ideas don’t work, so they aren’t great, as the man who thought he could win the Iditarod with a team of cats and basset hounds quickly learned.

Certain overeducated elites have an interest in making normal people feel stupid for not understanding what they’re talking about. For instance, here’s one of my favorite passages from Harvard’s Homi Bhabbha:

If, for a while, the ruse of desire is calculable for the uses of discipline soon the repetition of guilt, justification, pseudo-scientific theories, superstition, spurious authorities and classifications can be seen as the desperate effort to "normalize" formally the disturbance of a discourse of splitting that violates the rational, enlightened claims of its enunciatory modality.

There are people who think you’re stupid for not understanding that. These are people who don’t understand that themselves, but want you to think they do because they want to be seen as belonging to the club. To give a more concrete example, it is quite fashionable today to say things like “men can get pregnant too.” If, when you hear this, you raise your hand and say, “I don’t get it,” like Tom Hanks in Big when the skyscraper-robots are being pitched, you are declaring yourself to be in this kind of stupid party.

I’m not with stupid.

Now, I am no branding genius, but even I know that flying the banner of “Stupidity” high and hoping to have the best people flock to your cause is not the brightest idea. “Boring,” however, works for me. “Grown up” works for me. I want politics to be boring. I want reforms to be boring, not because they aren’t necessary or important, but because successful reforms tend to not be very interesting.

“Measure twice, cut once” is the boring, grown-up way to do carpentry. The exciting way to do carpentry is to get drunk on peach schnapps and high on airplane glue, cover yourself in baby oil—especially your hands so they’re super slippery—and then let the chainsaw guide you.

Similarly, the boring way to improve society—through government at least—is to study the facts carefully, hear a bunch of different experts debate the options, costs, and proposed benefits, and then launch a limited, reasonable reform, perhaps in a specific location, and then see how it works out before continuing. Another important part of good, boring conservatism—much like good, boring parenting—is to say “no” to bad ideas whenever you see them. “When change is unnecessary, it is necessary not to change,” and all that.

This stuffy, Disraelian approach to conservatism is the conservatism of people like retiring Sen. Rob Portman, ex-Gov. Mitch Daniels, and most conservative judges. And I am here for it.

But a lot of people who call themselves conservatives these days aren’t. It’s like they read Mill literally rather than figuratively, and decided that conservatives should be the Running With Scissors party. Jewish space lasers may be the funny tip of the spear of the new right-wing stupidity, but there’s so much more out there. 

The GOP should ditch the symbol of the elephant for a meme of the gasoline fight from Zoolander, with Matt Gaetz getting jiggy to “Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go.” After all, memes are so much cooler than a large, slow-moving pachyderm with a long memory. That’s why Rep. Madison Cawthorn has set up his shop to be ready with a tweet at a moment’s notice but has no plans to work on legislation. It’s why Gaetz thinks, “if you aren’t making news, you aren’t governing.”

Secession, like Hansel, is so hot right now. The Oregon GOP officially thinks the assault on the Capitol was a false flag operation by Antifa. A majority of House members endorsed a lawsuit that, if not rejected by the boring Supreme Court, would have not only stolen the election but completely overturned the Constitutional order. The president, who wanted people to put disinfectant inside their bodies, is a very stable statesman genius, and the Republicans who want to hold him accountable for inspiring an assault on the Capitol are traitors to the republic.

I get that these people think that hot-taking it on cable news is real work. And it may well take effort. But it reminds me of the story from Don Quixote when the performer beckons a large crowd to see the show. He takes out a tube and shoves it in a dog’s butt, puts the other end in his mouth, and proceeds to inflate the dog. He pulls the tube out and the dog flees as if powered by a flatulent-jet pack. And then turns to the crowd to say, "You think it's easy to inflate a dog with a tube?"

Just be normal.

Meanwhile, progressives in San Francisco have concluded that Abraham Lincoln and George Washington have  “dishonorable legacies.”California’s proposed new high school ethnic studies curriculum celebrates such “influential people of color” as the mass murderer Pol Pot, but not Martin Luther King Jr. or Thurgood Marshall. Scientists—government scientists!—have forthrightly declared that schools need to reopen immediately. Yet the “Believe in science!”, “Government is good!”, “Do it for the children!” party is spinning so hard to indulge the refusal of teachers unions to go back to work that it risks scrotal torsion. Democratic officials are insouciantly talking about destroying good jobs, largely—as John Kerry explained this week—to set a good example for other countries.

Against this backdrop, the GOP could be the party of, “I don’t get it.” Or even, “Are you frick’n kidding me!?” But it’s hard to position yourself in that way when you’re high on Newsmax TV’s green room farts.

Goldberg continues:

Look, we can disagree about all manner of specific policies, from transgenderism to climate change to abortion. But, as a matter of rank political analysis, most Americans are members of the stupid party as Kristol described. These people aren’t dumb, and they’re not necessarily Republicans, but they do have strong antibodies against radical excess or excess radicalism.

The GOP and right-wing entertainers are twisting themselves into pretzels trying to keep conspiracy theorists, secessionists, buffalo-skin-clad insurrectionists, and the brave truth tellers willing to call out the Hebraic Meteorological Complex in their coalition. But they’re not lifting a finger to keep the boring, hardworking grown-ups like Rob Portman, who just want to govern responsibly.

But, as Danny Ocean said in the all-squirrel remake of Ocean’s 11 when he was explaining his plan to rip-off the Planter’s Peanut warehouse: “Wait, it gets nuttier.” As Erick Erickson notes, there’s very little evidence that the Georgians who voted for Marjorie Taylor Greene knew she was nuttier than squirrel George Clooney’s stool sample. But why take that chance? It’s like the GOP thought that trading the reliable suburban voters that the Portmans of the world attract for the Louie Gohmert fan club was a great bargain. Sure, we’ll lose votes, but we’ll make up for it in volume! You’d think losing two majority-making Senate seats in Georgia would lead grown ups to say, “It’s all fun and games until you lose an ‘aye’ for Majority Leader.” Nope.

If you think that distancing yourself from someone who believes in Jewish Space Lasers isn’t worth it for fear that the very conservative voters in her district—or elsewhere—will never forgive you, you don’t think much of those voters. Nor do you think you have even the slightest responsibility to be a leader.

Look, I get it. Our politics is so messed up, it may be true that drawing a bright line around the dregs and saying, “That’s not us” could actually alienate some decent Americans who’ve been deluded by cable- and Facebook-fueled culture war tribalism. But what choice do you have? Where does that thinking end? George H.W. Bush repudiated David Duke when he ran for office because it was the right thing to do, but also because a party that welcomes David Duke will be unwelcome to millions of Americans. Better Americans.

The rules state: If you create a monster, the responsibility for stopping the monster—not feeding it—falls to you.

A party of conspiracy theorists and would-be secessionists will be a failed party—I hope. A party merely perceived as a party of conspiracy theorists and would-be secessionists will be a failed party—I hope.

But let’s say I’m wrong. How is that good news? If a new GOP of gasoline-fighters, meme-warrior entertainers, grifters, and tinfoil hatters succeeds, the country will fail. You can debate all day where you should amputate a limb to keep gangrene from taking over. But the longer you wait to find the exact spot, the more likely it is that the rot will spread beyond it.

I’m down for a stupid party. But not this kind of stupid.

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Uh . . . at the end of the Biden/Harris term in 2024, Republicans and Democrats will have occupied the same amount of time in the Oval Office for 48 years.  How old are you?

Uh, how much of that was flukes? I think the entire Clinton era was a fluke brought to us all by H. Ross Perot. So take those eight years off the table to start. And then what do we do with the Dubya years, where Gore basically conceded to eight years of Bush Restoration? 

And I wasn't even thinking here of the presidency; I am talking downballot. 

Yes, they win the popular vote in presidential elections. So what? If that's a problem, how is that they haven't availed themselves of the chance to do away with the electoral college? No, instead they'll just whine to the officials (that's us, the American people) about how it's unfair and then not do anything for another four years until it bites them in the ass again. I mean, our whole country is falling apart now in large part because of the existence of the electoral college and our brokedick system of elections and we are just gonna keep staggering on to the next meltdown. 

All the GOP has to sell nowadays is fear, hate, and greed, and somehow, the so-called opposition party hasn't found a way to sell alternatives to that in decades. It's because the billionaires behind this so-called opposition party don't want to give any of that up, so instead what we get is Harriet Tubman on a $20 bill and not police reform. They've allowed and encouraged the idea that pretty much every social ill in this country are things that only effect "people of color" thereby alienating the white working class utterly, and after turning their backs on them, by sending their jobs overseas and telling them to learn to code and such, they brand them as deplorables and then have the fucking gall to wonder why how the once-reliably Dem Rust Belt has become a political battleground.  

As has been famously stated, Hitler had an ethos. What is the Dem ethos? Not being Hitler? That's pretty much it. Biden's out here running around unfucking the country from Trump's insane EO's and of course I am glad of that, but the Dems are partially responsible for putting that choad in the Oval to begin with. 

At some point, though, Biden is going to do more than rescind Trump's declaration of open season on kittens, plans to turn Yellowstone and Yosemite into open pit coal mines, and the requirement of minimum levels of toxins in all our lakes and rivers. 

One thing he could be doing is moving to criminally prosecute Trump and his congressional minions. Fuck the DC process. These people were involved in a criminal enterprise, and it's high time we abandoned the idea that just because you are an elected official, you are above the law. The Catholic Church similarly mystified people for decades or centuries and we allowed them to police those priests for far too long. Nope -- you incite a riot, or you are complicit in inciting that riot, IDGAF about censures or impeachments or whatever. You go to fucking jail, and then we sort out how you are penalized in your professional life. Which would probably be nothing but at least those fucks would be in orange jumpsuits eating cold baloney for a while. 

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19 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Uh, how much of that was flukes?

Oh, my bad, I didn't know we were considering "flukes".

Downballot during that timeframe:

Senate:  D 12, R 11 (23 2-year congressional terms)

House:  D 13, R 10 (23 2-year congressional terms)

 

Your grand point was that you have a feeling Democrats really don't like to win elections.  I think we've destroyed that point.  I eagerly await another dissertation on why Charlie Strong was actually a decent coach; er, my bad, why the fact that Democrats win more elections than Republicans isn't evidence that they do in fact like to win elections.

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