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Hey, Skip, the shots not only slow transmission rates, they mitigate the damage caused by the virus. Given that multiple infections can lead to more serious outcomes, I think the benefit of shots for tots is mostly about trying to limit the damage caused by what will likely be a dozen (more?) infections before the age of thirty.

There were folks convinced herd mentality would be a thing. They were wrong. You seem convinced that contracting Covid isn’t harmful for healthy kids. What if you’re wrong? Again, there is evidence multiple infections can have a cumulative effect. 
 

I’m sorry the boosters were tough on you. I am lucky, neither the vid, or flu, or any other vax, was particularly tough for me. Maybe that’s why I’d urge parents to err on the side of caution. Which, as you seem to criticize, is trusting the doctors.

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18 minutes ago, Superhero said:

People are still dying from Covid?

Avatar checks out. But, yeah, roughly ~500 Americans are dying each day from it right now.

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It continues to astonish me (a) how ignorant people are of this disease and (b) how ignorant they are as to what effort it would take to make it less lethal.

It's difficult to get Americans to stop eating junk food, to stop smoking, to start exercising, etc.  Getting a couple of shots per year?  Crimony.  "We" are what we are.

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2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

300-500 people across the US everyday for the past year.  The flu normally averages about 150 deaths per day but those deaths are not uniform across the year.

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Well, not quite uniform. But predictable.

 

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5 hours ago, Superhero said:

People are still dying from Covid?

One of my best friends, his uncle died from it recently (overweight, diabetic, smoker), his aunt's currently in the hospital (overweight).  They may have had it early last year, but they also live on a farm and were big on avoiding people (even though they claimed not to be believe it) and were able to avoid people.

They were big anti-vaccine fans, and played up horse paste when Trump was in office (or is still in office if you're qanon).  Their daughter scrubbed their Facebook pages after they went in the hospital.  Don't know if it was her mom's idea or she was embarrassed by all of the "COVID ISN'T REAL" turning into "pray for me and my husband, he's in the hospital and I'm really sick" posts a year or two later.

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I've mentioned it before, but the book "Chaos Machines" really caused me to re-evaluate my attitude during some of those peak "Hermain Cain award" moments.  There are multiple factors, but the very nature of social media imo is the reason many are dead.  And of course Trump politicizing it on his end.  But even then, I'm pretty convinced that Facebook and twitter bear the greatest responsbilty.  

Just because people are dupes doesn't mean it is good to dupe them or that they deserved horrible deaths.

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4 minutes ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

I've mentioned it before, but the book "Chaos Machines" really caused me to re-evaluate my attitude during some of those peak "Hermain Cain award" moments.  There are multiple factors, but the very nature of social media imo is the reason many are dead.  And of course Trump politicizing it on his end.  But even then, I'm pretty convinced that Facebook and twitter bear the greatest responsbilty.  

Just because people are dupes doesn't mean it is good to dupe them or that they deserved horrible deaths.

i don't think you'll find much disagreement that ignorant simpletons being bamboozled into self-destructive decisions and behaviors do not warrant a type of shadenfreude that is being discussed.  it is a loss of life and sympathy ultimately should be the humanizing response to any tragedy along those lines.  however, when the key inputs into the machinations of the misinformation and abuse of things like social media platforms - not to mention public political figures who leverage it for opportunism - ultimately display an attitude that so hostilely rejects that same human empathy and sense of what's best for the community in order to make their own uninformed (what they believe to be) political statements then suffer the consequences of those prideful demonstrations of stupidity, it is hard to blame those machinations when it was the type of confirmation bias they sought in the first place.  that is not to hold blameless the enabling interfaces and their business models that serve to feed you that confirmation bias...but ultimately the inputs and the manipulation is driven by human stupidity.  when a radio host tries to garner market share towards people he or she knows are morons like a maga crowd by saying insanely stupid and unfounded shit...amplifying the misinformation...there is virtually no sympathy when it is the irony that figuratively kills them.

like fisher's case study in the text you reference, it isn't the morons in myanmar that elicit shadenfreude, it was the extremists pumping out the misinformation meeting their demise that brings some (admittedly perverse) sense of satisfaction.  in that case of genocide, i would not have minded if they all met an unfortunate demise.

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