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Dallas Cowboys 2022 Offseason Thread -- Every Time Jerrah Talks, an Angel Sheds Their Wings


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9 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

Accused of sexual assault and was suspended from the team. Charges were dropped and he was reinstated. Without the off field issue some had him as a first rounder.

Probably another head case that will constantly make big mistakes at critical times to lose games.  

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Sam Williams.  A lot like Gregory, but not quite as accomplished at the collegiate level.  Can rush the passer, shitty vs the run, off field issues.  Seems like a specialist.  Not sure you draft specialists in the 2nd round instead of looking for starters, but at least his skill set and speciality are a big one.  

 

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1 hour ago, TexMexBuddha said:
On 3/30/2022 at 8:55 AM, Hermanator said:
Can you name one instance in the history of human civilization where the golden spoon fed offspring of supreme privilege turned out to be anything other than spoiled worthless fucks? 
The odds are it's happened but I can't think of any. 

Gaius Octavius did ok...Nero reverted to form I guess.

Elon Musk?

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Interesting, there was some thought the Cowboys would reach for him in round 2 after Pickens and Skyy were taken.  Instead the reached for Williams, but this guy fell to them and they've liked him quite a bit.  BTW, he's from South Alabama, not South Carolina.

 

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Love reading scouting reports...  NFL.com

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JALEN TOLBERT       SOUTH ALABAMA   WR

HOMETOWN    Mobile, AL

CLASS     R-Senior

HEIGHT     6' 1"

WEIGHT    194 lbs

ARMS.      32 1/4"

HANDS     10"

Prospect Grade

6.21      "Will Eventually Be Average Starter"

Combine Results
u-unofficial
 
40 Yard Dash
4.49
Bench Press
--
Vertical Jump
36
Broad Jump
123
3 Cone Drill
7.08
20 Yd Shuttle
--
60 Yd Shuttle
--

 

 

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That’s a BAD scouting report. He’s a sleeper and will be at worst Cedric Wilson like player for the Cowboys. Actually a comp for him is Gallup.

Somehow the cowboys kind of backed into a solid 3 round draft. Nothing flashy. Lots of complaints. But players that will help. Some might even be starters.

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NFL Scout:  WR Jalen Tolbert

"Silky smooth athlete who has morphed into a monster over the last two seasons. Tolbert is a high-character prospect with skill elements that are dripping with NFL potential. He gave work to everyone he faced, including SEC cover corners at Tennessee. His three-sport background offers unique perspective to pull from at his position, and his route-running gives him a leg up in camp battles early on. His traits, talent and production should push him up the board, and dialing up the competitive spirit could turn him into a top-flight WR2 "

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Drew said:

That’s a BAD scouting report. He’s a sleeper and will be at worst Cedric Wilson like player for the Cowboys. Actually a comp for him is Gallup.

Somehow the cowboys kind of backed into a solid 3 round draft. Nothing flashy. Lots of complaints. But players that will help. Some might even be starters.

Yeah, I should have said terrible write-up

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7 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

NFL Scout:  WR Jalen Tolbert

"Silky smooth athlete who has morphed into a monster over the last two seasons. Tolbert is a high-character prospect with skill elements that are dripping with NFL potential. He gave work to everyone he faced, including SEC cover corners at Tennessee. His three-sport background offers unique perspective to pull from at his position, and his route-running gives him a leg up in camp battles early on. His traits, talent and production should push him up the board, and dialing up the competitive spirit could turn him into a top-flight WR2 "

 

 

This guy says good route runner, but this other  guy on espn says

Tolbert is not a complete route runner, and he doesn't show great acceleration getting out of breaks. -- Steve Muench

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Seems like the cowboys like athletic tackles for their guards and that probably makes some sense, get the athletes and they’ll do better as guards.

Hopefully he transitions well to guard. Linderbaum seemed real nice in that spot.

Linderbaum better be packing the milkshakes as he is undersized and will be getting his shit pushed in.

Smith is far better choice based on potential. Big and mean.
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CBS Sports -- 2022 NFL Draft grades

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2022-nfl-draft-grades-tracker-analysis-for-every-third-round-selection/

 

24. Cowboys: Tyler Smith, OT, Tulsa

Grade: A

This is one of my favorite picks in this draft. This kid is a mauler who will help them at right tackle right away. He needs a little help in pass protection, but the Cowboys will coach him up. Teams loved him more than analysts and his tape showed you why. This is a really good pick. 

56. Cowboys: Sam Williams, EDGE, Mississippi

Grade: A-

Heaviest hands in the draft at EDGE. Serious bull rush too. Needs to use a hands a bit more frequently. Thick. Burst is good but doesn't play to the long speed he showcased at the combine. Some off-field concerns. Fills a need. 

88. Cowboys: Jalen Tolbert, WR, South Alabama

Grade: B-

Older prospect who's a fun vertical threat because of his ball-tracking ability and deceptive speed. Quality, not spectacular routes and not a major YAC weapon. Feels like a good complementary type and that's what he'll be asked to be in Dallas. 

 

Also detailed article...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/cowboys-2022-nfl-draft-picks-heres-what-to-know-about-day-2-selections-sam-williams-and-jalen-tolbert/

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12 hours ago, Drew said:

That’s a BAD scouting report. He’s a sleeper and will be at worst Cedric Wilson like player for the Cowboys. Actually a comp for him is Gallup.

Somehow the cowboys kind of backed into a solid 3 round draft. Nothing flashy. Lots of complaints. But players that will help. Some might even be starters.

wtf are you smokin

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With trade for A.J. Brown, lots of folks saying Eagles will win NFC East this year 

And what do you base that on? Jalen Hurts turning into Jaworski? A few draft moves might be splashy but until all these guys suit up no one knows. Eagles will be lucky to make a wild card.

Howie knows how to suck media dick. They could draft a crew of nuns and these yaps would be calling it the greatest draft ever.
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10 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

And what do they base that on? Jalen Hurts turning into Jaworski? A few draft moves might be splashy but until all these guys suit up no one knows. Eagles will be lucky to make a wild card.

Howie knows how to suck media dick. They could draft a crew of nuns and these yaps would be calling it the greatest draft ever.

FIFY

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/did-the-eagles-just-win-the-nfc-east-on-thursday-night/ar-AAWJWRB?ocid=uxbndlbing

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52 minutes ago, Bill Brasky said:

wtf are you smokin

Huh? That was a bad scouting report talking about Tolbert.  He's going to be a player.

 

Now the Draft so far? It's not even close to an A...but after day 2 they've hit all their big needs with players with upside and all should contribute this year.  I'd give them a low B grade at least.

46 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

With trade for A.J. Brown, lots of folks saying Eagles will win NFC East this year 

They trade for a QB?

20 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah we do this every year.  The Cowboys may not win the NFC East for a 2nd year in a row...but it's going to be because they, once again, get in their own fucking way.  It won't be because other teams are better than them.

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Good size/speed combo on paper. Apparently isn't particularly good at blocking. Seems early for him, but the Cowboys have had some success projecting TE in mid rounds. I would have much preferred the dipped into the deeper DB and interior OL pool at that spot for value, or even a running back that would have staring potential a year from now.

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6 minutes ago, pacman said:

Strange, indeed. Nothing above average about him receiving or blocking.

Probably a stupid favor to barry alvarez for no reason

Another reach...

Feels like Dallas locked in on TE in 4th Rd, but weren't willing to trade up.  Just terrible use of 4th Rd pick imo.  Hope they get lucky with all their 5th Rd picks...

 

 

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14 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Another reach...

Feels like Dallas locked in on TE in 4th Rd, but weren't willing to trade up.  Just terrible use of 4th Rd pick imo.  Hope they get lucky with all their 5th Rd picks...

 

 

Lot's of hyperbole here.  If you didn't think it's a good pick, cool...but it's FAR from Terrible.  Everything out there is basically comparing him to Shulz, who he's likely to replace as start when Shulz leaves next year(unless you think he'll be paid).  This guy is an inline blocker and will be playing with Shulz game one most likely.

 

I think they wanted Kolar, just didn't go up and get him...but acting like this is a "terrible" pick when it's a 4th round TE is a bit of overkill.

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