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22 minutes ago, Alien Octopus said:

CFP fuckwads  don't do sos

 

Yeah Sark brought that up at the press conference after selection HARD

”doesn’t matter who you beat or who you play to them, all that matters is record.”

”retarded system run by fucking boomer idiots who don’t watch or know ball”

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1 hour ago, F250 said:

Exactly, ND treats the ACC like a side piece then gets offended when the ACC keeps their status as single on social media. 

domer wants to fuck who they want without protection, including anal, but they expect the acc to wear a condom, pull out early, and finish in a kleenex

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Posted
40 minutes ago, Zeus said:

”retarded system run by fucking boomer idiots who don’t watch or know ball”

no current of former administrator on the academic side should be on the committee

i'm going to say it, apologies to our very few women on this board, but NO WOMEN on the committee

in fact, the only people who should be on the committee are former players and coaches

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9 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i'm going to say it, apologies to our very few women on this board, but NO WOMEN on the committee

Don't be a fucking idiot. The only woman on the board is a very successful P4 athletic director. I guarantee you she is far more qualified to be there than most men.

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15 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

And look at Miami: they are in the playoffs BECAUSE of playing ND, if they had played Stanford then they’re at home and Texas, Vandy, or BYU is in. All it will take is one less than blueblood sneaking in cause they scheduled boldly and the pendulum will go back. 

It's a different calculus though for a Big 12 or ACC team.  They may very likely miss any top 10 matchups in conference play.  For an SEC team, now particularly with 9 conference games, you are pretty much guaranteed multiple top 10 and numerous top 25 matchups on your schedule every year.  Again, to be clear, a 2 loss Texas team (including the loss to Florida) would have been in over both ND and Miami given quality of other wins that neither could match.   Texas would have been slotted at 8 above OU.   

Committee set precedent that H2H is important but only in a tiebreaker scenario.  That is consistent throughout placement of the top 15.

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10 minutes ago, Skipper said:

It's a different calculus though for a Big 12 or ACC team.  They may very likely miss any top 10 matchups in conference play.  For an SEC team, now particularly with 9 conference games, you are pretty much guaranteed multiple top 10 and numerous top 25 matchups on your schedule every year.  Again, to be clear, a 2 loss Texas team (including the loss to Florida) would have been in over both ND and Miami given quality of other wins that neither could match.   Texas would have been slotted at 8 above OU.   

Committee set precedent that H2H is important but only in a tiebreaker scenario.  That is consistent throughout placement of the top 15.

agreed the ACC and the Big 12 are leagues where they need the SOS/SOR and would be willing for one sided scheduling deals. 

the problem is that ND needs SEC and BIG teams to fill it schedule , but the SEC/BIG teams that matter don't actually need ND 

if the commissioners are like no ND scheduling aside from USC (long standing rivalry) , ND is going to be looking like window coug 

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https://chopchat.com/if-notre-dame-leaves-the-acc-fsu-will-be-like-so-what

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If Notre Dame leaves the ACC, FSU will be like so what?
Kelvin Hunt
~3 minutes

Notre Dame football started the 2025 season 0-2 and won 10 straight games to finish the season 10-2. However, their opening game loss against the Miami Hurricanes is what kept them out of the College Football Playoffs. Miami also had a 10-2 record, which ranked behind Notre Dame for much of the regular season, despite the head-to-head win.

Miami is a member of the ACC, and Notre Dame isn’t in football, so it was a no-brainer to know which team the conference would advocate for when it came to getting a team into the College Football Playoff.

Notre Dame has been whining and complaining about the ACC advocating for Miami:

    I don’t understand why Notre Dame wants the ACC to treat it like a full member of the ACC. Notre Dame football is very much not a member of the ACC.

    If you want the benefits of being in a conference — including the conference politicking on your behalf — join the conference. https://t.co/QLqBpz1P2T
    — Adam Lichtenstein (@ABLichtenstein) December 8, 2025

Exactly! Why does Notre Dame expect the ACC to advocate for it when it is not a member of the ACC in football?

Notre Dame has reportedly called a press conference for Tuesday at noon:

    Notre Dame just announced that AD Pete Bevacqua will hold a press conference on Tuesday at 12 p.m. ET.
    — Mike Singer (@MikeTSinger) December 8, 2025

If they announce plans to pay approximately $55 million to leave the ACC in non-football sports, it doesn’t change anything for FSU. The 2026 football matchup against Notre Dame has already been cancelled, and FSU won’t face Notre Dame until 2029 at the earliest. FSU could very well have plans to leave the ACC itself by then.

FSU already led the ACC in TV viewership without having Notre Dame on the schedule. FSU averaged more viewers than Notre Dame with a 5-7 record, and Notre Dame was getting propped up by TV networks as they beat up on scrubs after losing its first two games against ranked opponents.

Notre Dame has bad teams in basketball and baseball, so they don’t add anything to the ACC in the other sports that could be somewhat profitable.

If Notre Dame wants to leave, it doesn’t make a difference to FSU one way or another. FSU is one of the strongest brands in college sports and doesn’t need Notre Dame to participate in the ACC. 

 

https://fightingirishwire.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/fighting-irish/football/2025/12/09/notre-dame-acc-leaving-pete-bevacqua-press-conference-jim-phillips/87680423007/

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ACC commissioner is trying to save its relationship with Notre Dame
Michael Chen
~2 minutes

Dec. 9, 2025, 6:30 a.m. ET

    Tensions have risen between Notre Dame and the ACC after the conference seemingly campaigned against the Irish for a College Football Playoff spot.

ACC commissioner is trying to save its relationship with Notre Dame

If you didn’t know by now, Notre Dame’s athletic director Pete Bevacqua is meeting with the media this afternoon, and it’s a bit unclear as to why this is happening.

He’s had plenty of opportunities to go on national talk shows to speak on behalf of the Irish, defending them for opting out of a bowl after not being selected for the College Football Playoff.

One of the teams that an at-large bid was Miami, who while in the ACC, is like a step-brother to Notre Dame. They aren’t affiliated in football, but almost every other sport they are, and over the course of multiple days, it seemed like the conference was campaigning against the Irish and the CFP.

Bevacqua said that the damage was permanent, it would be hard to move forward with them. It could be that what we see tomorrow is the start of the separation, but before it happens, the ACC commissioner Jim Phillips made a statement about the Irish.

He pretended like the conference didn’t show the Notre Dame at Miami game on the ACC Network on repeat throughout the week, and multiple posts on social media comparing the two teams.

Hard to deny the proof what we all saw, and we’ll find out later today if Bevacqua and Phillips can make this relationship work.

 

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There is talk that USC wants out as well.  Again, that's what I'm curious about in all of this.   ND AD is blowing things up with the ACC like he has leverage, so either he's already cut a deal better than what he has or he's totally misreading his hand or acting overly emotional after a snub to appease boosters.   I just don't see why either of the B1G or SEC wants anything to do with ND (absent full partnership in the B1G).   I'm hoping ND misplays this and we look back at them like they are Blockbuster Video 10 years from now.

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Posted
16 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

The loss in revenue for Texas from not playing ND at home would more than be made up for by making the playoffs. So let’s increase our odds of doing that while also telling ND to go fuck themselves. 

Well that is the same for Ohio State, Michigan, etc 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Skipper said:

There is talk that USC wants out as well.  Again, that's what I'm curious about in all of this.   ND AD is blowing things up with the ACC like he has leverage, so either he's already cut a deal better than what he has or he's totally misreading his hand or acting overly emotional after a snub to appease boosters.   I just don't see why either of the B1G or SEC wants anything to do with ND (absent full partnership in the B1G).   I'm hoping ND misplays this and we look back at them like they are Blockbuster Video 10 years from now.

I'd also like to think those conferences could/would freeze ND out, but they could still get any of the B12/Wazzou/Ore St for a few games and cobble together something with the service academies to fill out a schedule that the CFP committee would consider them for Top 12.

Would be entertaining seeing the conferences shut them out, the CFP take away their exception, and ND start suing everyone for collusion.

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14 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Fuck, never been happier to be wrong.  ND actually was treated like just another team.  Poor bastards.  

Poor bastards?  They had more time to celebrate "our lady" yesterday on the 8th.  I think that they actually have been blessed!

Posted
32 minutes ago, Skipper said:

There is talk that USC wants out as well.  Again, that's what I'm curious about in all of this.   ND AD is blowing things up with the ACC like he has leverage, so either he's already cut a deal better than what he has or he's totally misreading his hand or acting overly emotional after a snub to appease boosters.   I just don't see why either of the B1G or SEC wants anything to do with ND (absent full partnership in the B1G).   I'm hoping ND misplays this and we look back at them like they are Blockbuster Video 10 years from now.

USC wants out of what?

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The domers live in an alternate reality where it is still the 1960’s.  “We’re special… independence is our turdition…”.  That was well and fine in the old days, but college football has evolved into NFL-lite.  Conference affiliation matters (good and bad) in this new world. USC saw the writing on the wall and left the shit-show that was the PAC since the conference was barreling towards irrelevance (Texas did the same).

You don’t see the NFL allow one team to bypass a conference to say “ nah, we’re good… we’ll make our own schedule, cut our own TV deal… and by the way, we get to be in the playoffs just because we’re us”.  I hope this days are over and the major conferences tell them to pound sand, enjoy playing Directional State Technical University.

USC is questioning whether playing ND late in the season is going to affect any CFP chances. The rivalry has been great for both schools, and I’ve had the chance to experience 4 games as a band member, but that was then and this is now. You want to be a part of the league, then play by the same rules as everyone else… otherwise fuck right off.

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16 minutes ago, Redneck Mutha said:

I'd also like to think those conferences could/would freeze ND out, but they could still get any of the B12/Wazzou/Ore St for a few games and cobble together something with the service academies to fill out a schedule that the CFP committee would consider them for Top 12.

Would be entertaining seeing the conferences shut them out, the CFP take away their exception, and ND start suing everyone for collusion.

That's just it.

The 2nd and 3rd Tier P4 teams will step over their mothers' graves for a home & home with ND.

Posted
17 minutes ago, Redneck Mutha said:

I'd also like to think those conferences could/would freeze ND out, but they could still get any of the B12/Wazzou/Ore St for a few games and cobble together something with the service academies to fill out a schedule that the CFP committee would consider them for Top 12.

Would be entertaining seeing the conferences shut them out, the CFP take away their exception, and ND start suing everyone for collusion.

Unfortunately I don't think all the conferences will shut them out.  But at the very least, the revenue splits ND negotiates with the bigger schools for games might not be as profitable for ND as it was in the past.  Hopefully they will have to pay more to play. 

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24 minutes ago, Redneck Mutha said:

I'd also like to think those conferences could/would freeze ND out, but they could still get any of the B12/Wazzou/Ore St for a few games and cobble together something with the service academies to fill out a schedule that the CFP committee would consider them for Top 12.

Would be entertaining seeing the conferences shut them out, the CFP take away their exception, and ND start suing everyone for collusion.

A very easy, fundamental fix to this fucked up POS system is you must be in P4 conference to qualify.

That simultaneously forces ND into a conference and put the G5 absolute bullshit on the bench.

There is no financial, fairness or any logical reason to include G5 in the CFP. In fact, it's counter fairness

 Look at the schedule of the two G5s playing. 

Also, watch the TV numbers on those games. 

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13 minutes ago, USC_TMB said:

The domers live in an alternate reality where it is still the 1960’s.  “We’re special… independence is our turdition…”.  That was well and fine in the old days, but college football has evolved into NFL-lite.  Conference affiliation matters (good and bad) in this new world. USC saw the writing on the wall and left the shit-show that was the PAC since the conference was barreling towards irrelevance (Texas did the same).

You don’t see the NFL allow one team to bypass a conference to say “ nah, we’re good… we’ll make our own schedule, cut our own TV deal… and by the way, we get to be in the playoffs just because we’re us”.  I hope this days are over and the major conferences tell them to pound sand, enjoy playing Directional State Technical University.

USC is questioning whether playing ND late in the season is going to affect any CFP chances. The rivalry has been great for both schools, and I’ve had the chance to experience 4 games as a band member, but that was then and this is now. You want to be a part of the league, then play by the same rules as everyone else… otherwise fuck right off.

 

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point of re-posting those stats:

if the b1g and sec shut down those contracts, nbc loses a dozen marquee south bend games from those home-and-homes

domer gets $50m/year from nbc

let's say those b1g/sec domer home games represent..... half?..... the value of the nbc contract

is domer stupid enough to nuke themselves?

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

 Look at the schedule of the two G5s playing. 

Also, watch the TV numbers on those games. 

I never really thought we'd get in the CFP--not deep-down. But a small part of me still hoped that with the eyeballs we'd bring to a game, our TV overlords would somehow find a plausible way to squeeze us in. What I didn't see was the big picture: The bowl selection structure was out there all along and they knew that a Texas-Michigan game will draw a shit-ton of eyeballs, in the CFP or out. This way, TV pretty much gets to have their cake and eat it too.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

The Sleez-it bowl will pull a bigger audience than most of the first round playoff games.

maybe all of them, a&m vs miami and ou vs bama are the only possible ones that could be larger but are pretty large media draws in general 

oregon vs jmu and ole miss vs tulane is probably going to piss off some execs 

Posted
1 hour ago, DFW Horn said:

That's just it.

The 2nd and 3rd Tier P4 teams will step over their mothers' graves for a home & home with ND.

That's fine.  Let them.  If money is equal, let them convince top players playing a bunch of mediocre programs with shitty ratings and only stepping up to real competition in the playoffs is a better opportunity than playing for Texas, Bama, UGA, Michigan, OSU etc. and being the focus of the CFB world multiple times per year.   It wouldn't have an immediate impact, but multiple years of shit schedules like next season, if combined with no playoff success, and their 'brand' will  continue to fade.  

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Posted
37 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:



oregon vs jmu and ole miss vs tulane is probably going to piss off some execs 

The latter 2 are head-to-head against meaningful NFL games as well.  That is the reason Aggy got screwed with an 11AM kick.   I fully expect ratings for both the later games to be embarrassing.   

Posted
12 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

in fact, the only people who should be on the committee are former players and coaches

Former players are often among the most ignorant people about football.  They tend to know a lot about one position and jack shit about anything else.  Their knowledge also tends to be stuck in the time they last played.  And if we're being honest, football players are not typically drawn from the creme of the crop, intellectually speaking.

I'm immediately skeptical of any football take that involves language along the lines of "they don't know ball" or "they never played ball".  It just about guarantees that whatever they have to say next will be utterly stupid. 

My perspective on this is that of a former player.  :)

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6 minutes ago, Skipper said:

That's fine.  Let them.  If money is equal, let them convince top players playing a bunch of mediocre programs with shitty ratings and only stepping up to real competition in the playoffs is a better opportunity than playing for Texas, Bama, UGA, Michigan, OSU etc. and being the focus of the CFB world multiple times per year.   It wouldn't have an immediate impact, but multiple years of shit schedules like next season, if combined with no playoff success, and their 'brand' will  continue to fade.  

I agree that shit scheduling will negatively impact ND long term. 

ND is just leveraging their brand for a sweetheart deal with the ACC. I don't blame them for taking advantage of their current standing. Joining the ACC fulltime isn't an option right now, just like dumping the LHN wasn't for UT as members of the Big 12.

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56 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

The Sleez-it bowl will pull a bigger audience than most of the first round playoff games.

Since start time is 2pm cst Dec 31st, doubtful the citrus bowl TV ratings are higher than bama/blOU or miami/aggy games.  

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Apparently it's just a Notre Dame pity party where they whine about their god given playoff spot being stolen from them and the ACC daring to promote their member over Notre Dame. 

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waged a light inclusion campaign last week because of ThEiR DoMiNaTiOn tHe lAsT tEn WeEKS!!!

translation: never in 1000 years is it possible that they can't play who they want, beat the crap out of them, and take their GOD GIVEN place in the tournament

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