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2 hours ago, Royale with cheese said:

I never really thought we'd get in the CFP--not deep-down. But a small part of me still hoped that with the eyeballs we'd bring to a game, our TV overlords would somehow find a plausible way to squeeze us in. What I didn't see was the big picture: The bowl selection structure was out there all along and they knew that a Texas-Michigan game will draw a shit-ton of eyeballs, in the CFP or out. This way, TV pretty much gets to have their cake and eat it too.

I would say partially true in a short sighted way, partially absolutely a massive miss. Yes, Texas vs Michigan will draw massive numbers. I would confidently wager it will top all the first round CFP games save perhaps Miami and A&M. 

Now slot in Texas for JMU and ND or BYU (cause fuck ND) for Tulane.

That gives you a first round of:

Texas vs Oregon 

Bama vs OU

BYU (ND) vs Ole Miss

Miami vs aggie

A second round of:

Texas or Oregon vs Tech

Bama/Ou vs Indiana 

ND/BYU or Ole Miss v Georgia 

Miami/aggie vs OSU (which will be a blow out either way)

The first round goes from 2 complete hammers and a replay to 3 absolute killers and a 4th interesting one. It would also set up for potentially far more interesting 2nd round games for fans. Texas or Oregon vs Tech? BYU or ND vs Georgia? 

They missed the boat on big money. Feel free to throw Vandy in for ND/BYU if you like. 

The committee didn't abide by the #1 god. Money and his good friend greed. 

Posted
46 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

not in these exact words:

"we told them to stop attacking us 3 weeks ago and they kept doing it"

LOL this is the funniest shit ever

ND football is not a member of the ACC.  The ACC was attempting to get their member in, because Miami's CFP share goes to the ACC.  ND's share goes to ND and nobody else. 

If ND's football team wants a conference apparatus to make their case for them, they have to join one and share for CFP money.  They refuse, so the ACC, who is an ESPN partner, made their case for Miami. 

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Posted
Just now, mdmost said:

Funny though I don't like Boise State getting trashed given they were a playoff team last year. 

 

Last year ain't this year though, they were a solid G5 team, but not the team they had last year

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

LOL this is the funniest shit ever

ND football is not a member of the ACC.  The ACC was attempting to get their member in, because Miami's CFP share goes to the ACC.  ND's share goes to ND and nobody else. 

If ND's football team wants a conference apparatus to make their case for them, they have to join one and share for CFP money.  They refuse, so the ACC, who is an ESPN partner, made their case for Miami. 

All of this is revealing some deep fractures in NDs position , if even the ACC is too powerful for ND to counter they have serious problems. The ACC is one FSU from falling apart at the seams, meanwhile the SEC and BIG are sitting behind the curtains actually pulling all the strings. 

I think its clear ND either needs to invest in massive organization apparatus in its AD to combat this sort of stuff, or understand the role of conference affiliation. 

They've relied on "We're ND" so long, that a single shot against them is causing Chernobyl level meltdown 

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Posted
1 minute ago, BigHornedLurker said:

They've relied on "We're ND" so long, that a single shot against them is causing Chernobyl level meltdown 

And the ACC commissioner has a vote when it comes to the new CFP format (pushed back to January) - ND keeps attacking the ACC and I'm not sure why Jim Phillips is going to vote for a ND auto-bid exemption for the new format. 

Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

And the ACC commissioner has a vote when it comes to the new CFP format (pushed back to January) - ND keeps attacking the ACC and I'm not sure why Jim Phillips is going to vote for a ND auto-bid exemption for the new format. 

At this point I don't know why anyone would , I would force ND to back some level of G6 / conference champion as a massive concession . 

Thats probably how we ended up with JMU and Tulane situation , they just never thought it would affect them

 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

All of this is revealing some deep fractures in NDs position , if even the ACC is too powerful for ND to counter they have serious problems. The ACC is one FSU from falling apart at the seams, meanwhile the SEC and BIG are sitting behind the curtains actually pulling all the strings. 

I think its clear ND either needs to invest in massive organization apparatus in its AD to combat this sort of stuff, or understand the role of conference affiliation. 

They've relied on "We're ND" so long, that a single shot against them is causing Chernobyl level meltdown 

Yeah ND hitching part of it's wagon seemed fairly solid at time but it's becoming clear now that plan was built on a weak foundation.

Posted
8 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

At this point I don't know why anyone would , I would force ND to back some level of G6 / conference champion as a massive concession . 

Thats probably how we ended up with JMU and Tulane situation , they just never thought it would affect them

 

The tell of the tape in this CFP is going to reveal the hard reality that the rest of us already knew. The G5 has no business, financially or competitively, being in the CFP. None. 

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

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Holy Shit! I can't believe Notre Dame had one of the most dominant 10-game runs in history!

I mean, I can't recall anyone else among all the lessor important programs that has ever won 10 games in succession.

Wow, historic.

 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

At this point I don't know why anyone would , I would force ND to back some level of G6 / conference champion as a massive concession . 

Thats probably how we ended up with JMU and Tulane situation , they just never thought it would affect them

 

Yep, they should be pushing for an auto-bid if they finish ranked higher than the lowest ranked P4 champion.  Would anyone be too upset if they got in over JMU or Tulane by finishing higher ranked than the 5-loss ACC champ Duke? Not really. 

But ESPN isn't going to cape for ND over Miami, because ND is NBC and the ACC is ESPN. 

Them getting an auto-bid in 2026 if they finish top 12 is just making more people turn against their special status. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

Holy Shit! I can't believe Notre Dame had one of the most dominant 10-game runs in history!

I mean, I can't recall anyone else among all the lessor important programs that has ever won 10 games in succession.

Wow, historic.

 

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I mean has any of the lessers ever even won 10 games in a season?

Forget the notion of those weak lessers even sniffing the difficulty of the 10 games ND won. Such a travesty, ND should just be awarded the National Championship Trophy over the others. Let's cancel the CFP, no need for it.

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Posted
22 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

All of this is revealing some deep fractures in NDs position , if even the ACC is too powerful for ND to counter they have serious problems. The ACC is one FSU from falling apart at the seams, meanwhile the SEC and BIG are sitting behind the curtains actually pulling all the strings. 

I think its clear ND either needs to invest in massive organization apparatus in its AD to combat this sort of stuff, or understand the role of conference affiliation. 

They've relied on "We're ND" so long, that a single shot against them is causing Chernobyl level meltdown 

Problem is, they are almost certain to go B1G if they do move to a conference. That would likely trigger another realignment war. 

Posted
Just now, Vertigo said:

Problem is, they are almost certain to go B1G if they do move to a conference. That would likely trigger another realignment war. 

B1G can kick Nebraska out, replace with ND, and send Nebraska to the new PAc-12 or something. 

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22 hours ago, LTbear said:

But would ticket prices be higher for those G5 teams, or for ND? Would the season ticket package be higher for a schedule that had ND instead of a G5?

*To be clear, I recognize that the actual difference is small relative to the entire athletic budget, but I have seen essentially no blue blood or other big program take any step that doesn't attempt to squeeze very dime out of the system that it can. 

 

22 hours ago, Skipper said:

Agreed and it's all very interesting to me.  Because ND is going to have a seat at the table negotiating playoff expansion.   Unless ND already has a handshake deal with Sankey or Petiti to support a preferred plan, ND's temper tantrum the last 24 hours appears on its face to be really poor negotiating strategy and not accurately "reading the room" regarding their current value to this sport because they don't have a lot of cards to play.  ND played ONE top 20 rated game the entire season.   With committee treatment of TX @ OSU, you already have multiple programs and/or coaches in addition to Sark (I saw Elko for example said as much) questioning the value of scheduling marquee OOC games.    ND is in a position where they could very well get shutout if they aren't holding hands with someone.  It seems emotional and poorly thought out to publicly attack the ACC.  Both those entities need each other.

 

20 hours ago, closetojumping said:

This is similar to the bullshit people float about “no new conference would take Texas” that aggies would tell anyone right up until July of 2021. If Notre Dame told the Big 10 they were ready to join as a full member, the Big 10’s response would be “how soon can you start?!” 💯 

 

This guy gets it.

21 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Why, was there a child rape and institutional cover-up, too?

No.  Not even from the outside priests are not part of the Brothers of the Holy Cross and were just hired to work at the University.  For a Catholic institution that large to escape largely unscathed is head scratching.  Our scandal was Ty Willingham.

20 hours ago, 'stache said:

Bama finshed the regular season at the top of the SEC after the tiebreakers, hence why they were the home team in the CCG. OU was the fifth team becasue they had two regular season conference losses. They were safely in the field because they beat Michigan in the non confererence game (hence how big noncon matchups can help if you win). Bama was never going to be left out when they had to play UGA because of tiebreakers and Ole Miss and aggy with the same conference record weren't forced to risk anything. Ole Miss especially, if they got blown out days after the coaching change fiasco, they might possibly be excluded, but they got to sit at home and deal with that situation because their SEC SOS was lower than Bamas and UGA's.

I'm aware of that.  The SEC designed that inane tiebreaker rule instead of just 'highest in the PC rankings.'  So you have your fifth best team playing in the CCG between the top two.  So even if you say that 'they shouldn't be punished for the CCG' Right, you are punished for finishing fifth in conference. 

Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

B1G can kick Nebraska out, replace with ND, and send Nebraska to the new PAc-12 or something. 

No sir, no... Corn need to go to the Big XII because karma is a bitch.

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Posted
22 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Funny though I don't like Boise State getting trashed given they were a playoff team last year. 

 

I made a lot of money betting on ND this year as they were crushing most point spreads in order to pass the “eye test” to get into the playoff. They did what they were supposed to do, given the competition. They should’ve been in over 3-loss Alabama who got trashed in the SEC championship game and lost to 5-7 FSU, a worse loss than either of ND’s. Bama has no business being included in the field.

I don’t really care because fuck ND. But fuck Bama too and that was a bullshit decision by the committee.

Posted

it's never going to end

if the field is 16, they will want an autobid if they are 14

if the field is 24, they will want an autobid if they are 22

this is going to be a problem forever

the b1g has just been ignoring the problem for 75 years

and it's time to officially make it their problem

if the b1g won't join the sec in a mass-cancellation of home/home contracts,

then the sec will have to do it

deplatform domer, and oppose any autobid format without conference affiliation

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Problem is, they are almost certain to go B1G if they do move to a conference. That would likely trigger another realignment war. 

good!  it's where they belong!  and it would be nice to add some weight to the top of the b1g

Posted
4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

B1G can kick Nebraska out, replace with ND, and send Nebraska to the new PAc-12 or something. 

All hell is going to break loose when these conferences look at their bloated membership and start cutting the bottom feeders to maximize profits.

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

They should’ve been in over 3-loss Alabama who got trashed in the SEC championship game and lost to 5-7 FSU, a worse loss than either of ND’s. Bama has no business being included in the field.

I don’t really care because fuck ND. But fuck Bama too and that was a bullshit decision by the committee.

This is ignoring the fact that the committee has said it doesn't punish conference championship losses and Bama played a much harder schedule.

And the team that gave Bama their last loss is probably the best team in the country.  They'd pound Notre Dame, too.  And, Bama gave UGA their only loss earlier.

I don't like any of those three teams, by the way.  But you simply don't take a team from the middle of the playoff field and kick them out for losing their CCG.

Notre Dame scheduled light, intentionally, and they failed to simply win 2 out of 3 against pretty good opponents.  That is really all there is to this.

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On 12/7/2025 at 9:35 PM, BigOrange1 said:

look at this horseshit

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Do you see Eastern Illinois here?

19 hours ago, William Bludworth said:

I hate being "that guy," cause it's annoying, but you gotta be down with your punctuation marks, fam. So imma go ahead and add that comma for you. 

All love. Straight cash, homie. 

CSC.

Cash, strictly cash.

18 hours ago, Vanilla Strange Gato said:

This is bizarre. 
 

They score 47 against Texas and 3 against NC State.  
 

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The NCST game was played in a hurricane.  Brain Kelly lined up in the shot gun like he always does and tried to throw the ball 40 times.

17 hours ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

That’s not a fair comparison.   Alabama and Texas are both full members of the SEC.

Miami is a full member of the ACC while ND is just a partial member. 

The ACC is a 'partner' who signed a long term contract with ND.   If you take a dump in public on your contractual partner you should expect the deal is going to fail.

Posted
Just now, notre dame joe said:

Do you see Eastern Illinois here?

CSC.

Cash, strictly cash.

The NCST game was played in a hurricane.  Brain Kelly lined up in the shot gun like he always does and tried to throw the ball 40 times.

The ACC is a 'partner' who signed a long term contract with ND.   If you take a dump in public on your contractual partner you should expect the deal is going to fail.

Rice, Purdue, Boston College, Stanford, and Syracuse.  A real who's who of murderers' row...

Posted
6 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

This is ignoring the fact that the committee has said it doesn't punish conference championship losses and Bama played a much harder schedule.

And the team that gave Bama their last loss is probably the best team in the country.  They'd pound Notre Dame, too.

I don't like any of those three teams, by the way.

Notre Dame scheduled light, intentionally, and they failed to simply win 2 out of 3 against pretty good opponents.  That is really all there is to this.

Yeah, but that's bullshit and the proof is in their punishing of BYU for losing in a CCG.   Now Notre Dame is running scared as they know how likely a loss woudl be to BYU in a bowl game.  Notre Dame played a weaker schedule than Aggie did this year.  They didn't belong in the playoff.  B etter than Tulane or JMU?  Sure.  But BYU had a better record with a tougher schedule than Notre Dame.  Their only losses were to a top four team that looks as complete as any team in the field.   In a holy war, the mormons beat the catholics in 2026.  

Posted
2 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

The ACC is a 'partner' who signed a long term contract with ND.   If you take a dump in public on your contractual partner you should expect the deal is going to fail.

Where are the receipts for this slight Domer is throwing this massive tantrum about? What did they actually do?   Assuming they didn't post the equivalent of "Fuck Notre Dame" on Twitter I'm not sure what the bitching is about.   The ACC has an obligation to lobby for its actual conference teams to get in (you know, where the conference will benefit from revenue unlike a ND playoff slot).  Lobbying for a conference team should have been expected by anyone with a brain.  Only Notre Dame is tone deaf, self-absorbed and arrogant enough to not understand that.   I've never been a true Notre Dame hater but this pathetic reaction to a just outcome the last 24 hours may have turned me into one.  I'm actively rooting for Texas and every other relevant program to cancel the series and black ball them going forward.  Fuck them.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

Yeah, but that's bullshit and the proof is in their punishing of BYU for losing in a CCG.   

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure BYU fell only one spot for losing their CCG, same as Ohio State. So how is that "punishing" them?

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

All hell is going to break loose when these conferences look at their bloated membership and start cutting the bottom feeders to maximize profits.

I honestly think part of Vanderbilt's investments in football was their ability to forecast this issue specifically. They've always been a good baseball school. They know the SEC tie in helps. Being THE football bottom feeder had future potential financial and sports implications. 

Interestingly, in Nashville I think I see more Preds gear than Titans gear and there are more women interested in those game, minor league baseball and Vandy than Titans, at least according to my dating profile research and attention draw goes. 

Posted
46 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

All of this is revealing some deep fractures in NDs position , if even the ACC is too powerful for ND to counter they have serious problems. The ACC is one FSU from falling apart at the seams, meanwhile the SEC and BIG are sitting behind the curtains actually pulling all the strings. 

It's lame if you remember that the ACC is a dead man walking conference.  Preseason everyone knew it when the conference leadership caved to FSU/Clemson and said they could leave early in exchange for absolutely nothing, 

 

35 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

Holy Shit! I can't believe Notre Dame had one of the most dominant 10-game runs in history!

I mean, I can't recall anyone else among all the lessor important programs that has ever won 10 games in succession.

Wow, historic.

 

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Just try to say an SEC team does that and gets excluded from the playoff.  Try typing it and see how that argument looks.

13 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Rice, Purdue, Boston College, Stanford, and Syracuse.  A real who's who of murderers' row...

So four P4 teams and your old regular SWC opponent?  I can say the same thing about East Illinois, Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, SCe. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

Yeah, but that's bullshit and the proof is in their punishing of BYU for losing in a CCG.  

Where were Bama and BYU in the playoff rankings before those losses?  I'm not saying you shouldn't drop at all for losing your CCG.  But you don't take a team from the middle of the field and kick them for losing a CCG to maybe the best team in the country.

I agree that Notre Dame is ducking BYU now.

But I don't see why anyone would think that Notre Dame has a better claim than Bama, which is what I was responding to.  They just don't.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Where are the receipts for this slight Domer is throwing this massive tantrum about? What did they actually do?   Assuming they didn't post the equivalent of "Fuck Notre Dame" on Twitter I'm not sure what the bitching is about.   The ACC has an obligation to lobby for its actual conference teams to get in (you know, where the conference will benefit from revenue unlike a ND playoff slot).  Lobbying for a conference team should have been expected by anyone with a brain.  Only Notre Dame is tone deaf, self-absorbed and arrogant enough to not understand that.   I've never been a true Notre Dame hater but this pathetic reaction to a just outcome the last 24 hours may have turned me into one.  I'm actively rooting for Texas and every other relevant program to cancel the series and black ball them going forward.  Fuck them.

This is my POV as well. What I saw was the ACC promoting its team. Thats literally their fiduciary duty, one of their only duties. 

The fact that ND was on the other side was collateral damage, the ACC has no control over who the committee makes room for. NDs lack of position made them an easy target. Thats on the committee, not the ACC. 

I think ND is attacking the only friend it has in any of this. 

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10 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

Yeah, but that's bullshit and the proof is in their punishing of BYU for losing in a CCG.   Now Notre Dame is running scared as they know how likely a loss woudl be to BYU in a bowl game.  Notre Dame played a weaker schedule than Aggie did this year.  They didn't belong in the playoff.  B etter than Tulane or JMU?  Sure.  But BYU had a better record with a tougher schedule than Notre Dame.  Their only losses were to a top four team that looks as complete as any team in the field.   In a holy war, the mormons beat the catholics in 2026.  

I concur that Magic Hat was more qualified for a playoff spot than PedoMotherMary. Ive not closely examined BYU vs Bama but you're absolutely correct the committee fucked them while protecting Bama. 

Maybe at some point the one guy who'd been yelling about TV dollars in the back of the room and why G5 sucked resonated with the idiots and they thought, gotta keep Sankey happy and Bama is good for the pocket books. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Where were Bama and BYU in the playoff rankings before those losses?  I'm not saying you shouldn't drop at all for losing your CCG.  But you don't take a team from the middle of the field and kick them for losing a CCG to maybe the best team in the country.

I agree that Notre Dame is ducking BYU now.

But I don't see why anyone would think that Notre Dame has a better claim than Bama, which is what I was responding to.  They just don't.

Texas has a better claim than both of them. 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Texas has a better claim than both of them. 

Strictly by the numbers that are supposed to matter (SOS, SOR) Texas, BYU and Vandy all have better claims than ND and Miami.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

This is my POV as well. What I saw was the ACC promoting its team. Thats literally their fiduciary duty, one of their only duties. 

The fact that ND was on the other side was collateral damage, the ACC has no control over who the committee makes room for. NDs lack of position made them an easy target. Thats on the committee, not the ACC. 

I think ND is attacking the only friend it has in any of this. 

I wanna know why ND hasn't picked a fight with Ole Miss. 

If there is one team that could have gotten moved out and nobody buy Ole Miss fans would have been upset about, it's them. FSU lost a QB and they were out. Ole Miss lost their HC and all the offensive staff, but they remain. That's the oddest one of the committee insanity, imo.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

It's lame if you remember that the ACC is a dead man walking conference.  Preseason everyone knew it when the conference leadership caved to FSU/Clemson and said they could leave early in exchange for absolutely nothing, 

 

Just try to say an SEC team does that and gets excluded from the playoff.  Try typing it and see how that argument looks.

So four P4 teams and your old regular SWC opponent?  I can say the same thing about East Illinois, Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, SCe. 

If you self absorbed cunts joined the ACC then you would be in the playoffs.  How about them apples, fuck face?

 

LMAO!

Posted
2 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Texas has a better claim than both of them. 

our resident @notre dame joe doesn't realize he's barking up the wrong tree 

ND shouldn't have been ranked so high in general , your schedule was weak and you had  * 1 good not great win * 

A large number of people on this board feel like Texas's case was actually stronger than either ND or Bama, FFS these teams moved up more spots than when we embarrassed #3  

The committee in general is full of idiots who couldn't rank a number line , and needs to be eliminated from the selection loop 

 

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