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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

And reviews like only reinforce their views that the media is out to get them and/or protecting the guilty.

“From the outside looking in, you can't understand it. From the inside looking out, you can't explain it.”

 

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I know I know get off fb but god damn I am seeing this from family and friends. God wins vs Hollywood and will always win type of shit. Also had 2 people send me that stupid link to buy for someone else or get a free ticket. So stupid and this shit is pretty crazy 

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2 hours ago, F250 said:

I've read about Caviezel in the past back when he was on Person of Interest. Like Gibson he is a really devout Catholic with Pre-vatican II grievances. From what I understand, he is basically Mel Gibson on acid.

So, the movie is in Latin? Bold strategy.

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6 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

If one of my bat-shit crazy maga relatives buys me tickets to this, I'm going to go find the smelliest homeless dude I can, give him a ride to the theater, and tell him to take a two hour nap in the AC

hopefully it's at a new theater that has recliner seats

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45 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I can’t believe we are going to be brought down by aggy. 

We should have snuffed out aggy decades ago. Maybe rolled them into the UH System. Now we face the consequences of "stupid is stupid does".

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I sweatergawd, the adrenochrome thing has to be drawn from A Clockwork Orange.

I tend to believe the theory that it's all sort of an out of control gag by 4/8Chan owners Watkins et fils.  First off, I think the elder Watkins is more or less a sex tourist, hence the trafficking angle.  Then in some addled stupor, he or his kid added in the "drenchrome" touch.  It's also featured in some similar dystopian writings of Huxley and later HST in addition to ACW.

 

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1 hour ago, Zepol87 said:

Now the talk is how amc doesn’t want anyone to watch this and is stopping screenings. I hate this

gah. so easily disproved... it's playing at all the AMC theaters in Denver. people's brains are just broken. 

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9 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

 I am sure that I don’t believe the QAnon folks who say 1 million US kids disappear each year.

Someone on these boards recommended this episode of "You're Wrong About," and it speaks to these (impossibly huge) purported numbers.

I tried to find a link to the podcast ('m sure it's on all the platforms), but I could only find this link to it on YouTube.  They start breaking the numbers down after around 4:15

 

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Yeah, wife accepted free tickets and I tagged along. We didn't know anything about it.

It smelled of bullshit pretty quickly, so I ended up googling this guy's lies and criminal investigations instead of watching it.

Just another grifter trying to exploit an issue for personal gain without actually contributing enough to better the world. Shame really, pieces would have made a good 20 minute psa to describe the process of third world country exploitation and transport to richer countries.

As a result...we have another "whistleblower"

 

 

the actual purpose, building American isis

 

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11 hours ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

If one of my bat-shit crazy maga relatives buys me tickets to this, I'm going to go find the smelliest homeless dude I can, give him a ride to the theater, and tell him to take a two hour nap in the AC

Don't forget to pick up some bean and cheese tacos for him to eat on the way to the movies. Then a cup of Starbucks to start the engines.

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8 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I sweatergawd, the adrenochrome thing has to be drawn from A Clockwork Orange.

I tend to believe the theory that it's all sort of an out of control gag by 4/8Chan owners Watkins et fils.  First off, I think the elder Watkins is more or less a sex tourist, hence the trafficking angle.  Then in some addled stupor, he or his kid added in the "drenchrome" touch.  It's also featured in some similar dystopian writings of Huxley and later HST in addition to ACW.

 

Thanks for leading me to look up adrenochrome and the madness of Qanon conspiracy theory. 

They're argument proof and need to feel the righteousness of assaulting a windmill believing it's a cabal of child murder and Satanists.  It took me 2 minutes to Google adrenochrome and learn all I need to know from wikipedia. 

Facts don't matter. To borrow from DKR, the future is coming at us like a rolling ball of butcher knives. 

To borrow from @hayden_horn: FUCK

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When I first heard about the movie, there was no political attachment and it just seemed like an update on Taken, but maybe a bit darker.

Now when you find out who's behind it, it definitely comes off like a Qanon grift.

The worst part is they're exploiting an apolitical issue that all but the most vile person would agree is a serious problem.  There's a thread about this over on the ISU board that was started by a MAGAt poster that claims he's pushing it because "people need to know that child trafficking is real and serious" to which he's been met with a dogpile of people pointing out that A) everyone knows child trafficking is real and serious and B) these people are fucking grifters pocketing the cash and not actually helping the problem.

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Also, the whole sex/human trafficking angle on anything is kind of odd.

Sure it goes on, and it's terrible, awful shit.  US authorities have seemed to have been in a moral panic about it for quite some time now, as a legitimate crime, but one I'm not sure is "on the rise" or any bigger threat in the US than it's ever been.

My suspicion is that US authorities are "drumming up" domestic enforcement activities and emphasizing the whole thing in order to apply pressure to "allies" to stem the problem at the source.  I suppose that's a laudable goal, but it strikes me that there's a fair amount of propaganda and hysteria involved, even on the completely legitimate law enforcement end.

And then, of course, it makes great fodder for lunatic conspiracy theorists.  The nugget of truth is essential.

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7 hours ago, pacman said:

Yeah, wife accepted free tickets and I tagged along. We didn't know anything about it.

It smelled of bullshit pretty quickly, so I ended up googling this guy's lies and criminal investigations instead of watching it.

Just another grifter trying to exploit an issue for personal gain without actually contributing enough to better the world. Shame really, pieces would have made a good 20 minute psa to describe the process of third world country exploitation and transport to richer countries.

As a result...we have another "whistleblower"

 

 

the actual purpose, building American isis

 

This is just confusing as all hell now.

Bottom line:  Qanon is alive and well within America.  Millions of idiots actually believe this stuff.  And a society cannot function this way.

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7 hours ago, Paul Wesley said:

Someone on these boards recommended this episode of "You're Wrong About," and it speaks to these (impossibly huge) purported numbers.

I tried to find a link to the podcast ('m sure it's on all the platforms), but I could only find this link to it on YouTube.  They start breaking the numbers down after around 4:15

 

The stat the Q followers and others who think the world's elite are running some child sex trafficking cabal where they consume their adenochrome point to the stat that 800,000 kids go missing per year in the US. Staggering number, right? Grabs your attention doesn't it? They fail to point out -- or more likely, simply don't know -- that something like 95% (maybe more) of those "missing" children are safely home the following day.

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1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

When I first heard about the movie, there was no political attachment and it just seemed like an update on Taken, but maybe a bit darker.

Now when you find out who's behind it, it definitely comes off like a Qanon grift.

The worst part is they're exploiting an apolitical issue that all but the most vile person would agree is a serious problem.  There's a thread about this over on the ISU board that was started by a MAGAt poster that claims he's pushing it because "people need to know that child trafficking is real and serious" to which he's been met with a dogpile of people pointing out that A) everyone knows child trafficking is real and serious and B) these people are fucking grifters pocketing the cash and not actually helping the problem.

Pedophile sex trafficking ring is the only way to explain the existence of Taco John.

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17 minutes ago, C-Man said:

The stat the Q followers and others who think the world's elite are running some child sex trafficking cabal where they consume their adenochrome point to the stat that 800,000 kids go missing per year in the US. Staggering number, right? Grabs your attention doesn't it? They fail to point out -- or more likely, simply don't know -- that something like 95% (maybe more) of those "missing" children are safely home the following day.

there's fewer than 4 million children born each year in the US, so if 800,000 went permanently missing that would be somewhere around 22-23% of each year's cohort. 

and 800,000 is almost certainly far too high:

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Unfortunately, since many children are never reported missing, there is no reliable way to determine the total number of children who are actually missing in the U.S.

When a child is reported missing to law enforcement, federal law requires that child be entered into the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC). According to the FBI, in 2022 there were 359,094 NCIC entries for missing children.* In 2021, the total number of missing child entries into NCIC was 337,195.

* This number represents reports of missing children. That means if a child runs away multiple times in a year, each instance would be entered into NCIC separately and counted in the yearly total. Likewise, if an entry is canceled and re-entered, that would also be reflected in the total.

https://www.missingkids.org/ourwork/impact

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Well, there are some 73 million people under the age of 18 in the US.

I agree that 800,000 permanently missing kids each year would be headline news, but it's roughly 1% of the total population in that age group.  Still, for scale, that would be over 4000 permanently missing kids in the Austin metro area, each and every year.

In summary, right wingers are fucking nuts.

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You know, it just seems like in this era it might be important to understand the information you are shoving into your brain in the same way as you understand the food you are putting into your body. Like maybe it is important to be able to identify who is saying something, and it might be reasonable to completely ignore sources of information that are actively untrustworthy.

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18 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

Pedophile sex trafficking ring is the only way to explain the existence of Taco John.

If you're gonna start slamming Potato Oles, or 6 Pack and a Pound, I'm gonna have to throw hands.

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12 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

You know, it just seems like in this era it might be important to understand the information you are shoving into your brain in the same way as you understand the food you are putting into your body. Like maybe it is important to be able to identify who is saying something, and it might be reasonable to completely ignore sources of information that are actively untrustworthy.

Bro, have you seen the videos of the people at Trump rallies? 

Shit, maybe diabetes drugs are causing the brain worms.

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46 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is just confusing as all hell now.

Bottom line:  Qanon is alive and well within America.  Millions of idiots actually believe this stuff.  And a society cannot function this way.

What’s even more disturbing to me is that I don’t think most of them actually believe it. When they’re alone and not online, they know it’s bullshit, but it’s bullshit necessary in furthering a particular narrative that fits their brand of political and social tribalism. Just like the election nonsense, it doesn’t need to be true. It just needs to fit the wishful thinking groupthink to have a rallying point around which to fling their shit. It’s delusional, self righteous fantasy fueled by tribalism run amok to push the notion that people they don’t agree with, like wealthy liberals, Democrats, and “Hollywood” (not sure if it’s only actors & producers, of if it goes all the down to PAs, caterers, etc), are the principal consumers of sex trafficked kids and women. You don’t have to do extensive research of arrests and convictions involving trafficked and abused children to see the factually ridiculous nature of that assertion. A soon as I started seeing “advertising” about this movie on twitter, I could sense where this was going. 

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19 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

You know, it just seems like in this era it might be important to understand the information you are shoving into your brain in the same way as you understand the food you are putting into your body. Like maybe it is important to be able to identify who is saying something, and it might be reasonable to completely ignore sources of information that are actively untrustworthy.

Me, to people I know: "What? That sounds crazy. Where did you hear that?"

Them: "Well, I was listening to Tucker Carlson, and he said...."

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17 minutes ago, Whitewater Horn said:

What’s even more disturbing to me is that I don’t think most of them actually believe it. When they’re alone and not online, they know it’s bullshit, but it’s bullshit necessary in furthering a particular narrative that fits their brand of political and social tribalism. Just like the election nonsense, it doesn’t need to be true. It just needs to fit the wishful thinking groupthink to have a rallying point around which to fling their shit. It’s delusional, self righteous fantasy fueled by tribalism run amok to push the notion that people they don’t agree with, like wealthy liberals, Democrats, and “Hollywood” (not sure if it’s only actors & producers, of if it goes all the down to PAs, caterers, etc), are the principal consumers of sex trafficked kids and women. You don’t have to do extensive research of arrests and convictions involving trafficked and abused children to see the factually ridiculous nature of that assertion. A soon as I started seeing “advertising” about this movie on twitter, I could sense where this was going. 

I think more of them than you might think actually believe it. It's the product of 30+ years of Rush Limbaugh and Rupert Murdoch "influence" over their lives. And, yes, that many people are monumentally stupid.

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4 minutes ago, horn4life said:

Glad it wasn't the Port A golf cart adorned with 4 Trump flags, with a very large occupant ranting something nonsensical.  Though that too is the sound of freedom.  Freedom to be stupid is still freedom! 😉

 

that's pretty much every golf cart in port a though right? 

i don't know how much longer i can keep saying how much i love this state but have to explain away its trumpiness. it used to be the people and the attitude that supposedly made this state so unique. 

maybe i was wrong about that all along fuck i dunno

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Also, the whole sex/human trafficking angle on anything is kind of odd.

Sure it goes on, and it's terrible, awful shit.  US authorities have seemed to have been in a moral panic about it for quite some time now, as a legitimate crime, but one I'm not sure is "on the rise" or any bigger threat in the US than it's ever been.

My suspicion is that US authorities are "drumming up" domestic enforcement activities and emphasizing the whole thing in order to apply pressure to "allies" to stem the problem at the source.  I suppose that's a laudable goal, but it strikes me that there's a fair amount of propaganda and hysteria involved, even on the completely legitimate law enforcement end.

And then, of course, it makes great fodder for lunatic conspiracy theorists.  The nugget of truth is essential.

I mean isn’t this just pizzagate all over again?

First, drum up hysteria about children being abused. Then blame political opponents for causing the abuse. Then some asshole drives hundreds of miles with automatic weapons to “save the children”

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1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I mean isn’t this just pizzagate all over again?

First, drum up hysteria about children being abused. Then blame political opponents for causing the abuse. Then some asshole drives hundreds of miles with automatic weapons to “save the children”

yes this movie seems to be pizzagate fantasy porn. like, if pizzagate and liam neeson with his special suite of skills actually existed

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Oh and let’s all collectively forget about the harm Trump’s administration did by separating hundreds of children (some breastfeeding infants) from their parents for families seeking asylum. Some of whom were never reunited with their families.
 

Or what about the children who died in Texas’ foster care system? Not some made up conspiracy but actual harm to actual children. 
 

Disingenuous bullshit. “SAVE THE CHILDREN!!!1! Oh, ew, not those ones”

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9 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I think more of them than you might think actually believe it. It's the product of 30+ years of Rush Limbaugh and Rupert Murdoch "influence" over their lives. And, yes, that many people are monumentally stupid.

Oh, for sure. I’ve known some of them and distanced them from my life when I knew they were actually bought in. I think the majority of these easily fooled and even easier led are just going through the motions to be “on the team.”  They’re not the kind of people who make an effort to genuinely educate themselves or do any substantial research, they just want to stay current on the talking points and “what are we outraged about this week”. When I’ve engaged with these people and press them to support their claims, the common response is, “well, that’s what I heard.”  They don’t really have many actual beliefs or well-informed opinions they can support with facts or knowledge. They have the narrative that was provided to them. 

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14 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I mean isn’t this just pizzagate all over again?

First, drum up hysteria about children being abused. Then blame political opponents for causing the abuse. Then some asshole drives hundreds of miles with automatic weapons to “save the children”

Yes. The Democrats are killing kids and drinking their blood falls in #3. 

1. Polarization

2. Tribalization

3. Dehumanization

4. Killing 

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